[V8SC08R06] Darwin (merged)

[davester]

Originally Posted by billybanana

There are some ominous signs for the rest of the championship. Personally I don't like seeing the first 2 cars 14 seconds in front of the field.

C'mon fellas...Garth and HRT(WP) are clever guys. Go fast enough in the right places to retain 3rd in the race...go slow enough where you cannot be passed to let the two leading Fords stretch their lead...and trigger the PARITY mechanism.

[sizzle]

Originally Posted by lowgto

Yawn........AGAIN.
Tander v Ford........AGAIN.
Skaife mistake.......AGAIN.

Tander v ford, If he hadn't every one behind him up then it may have been different. It was only race 1 and no one wanted to push the issue much. I reckon a couple of gaps may mysteriously appear tomorrow.

[sizzle]

Originally Posted by sizzle

Today has dawned its usual fine and sunny self after one of the coolest nights of the year. Todays maximum forecast to be 30degrees with little or no humidity changed from the last couple of days. The fastest laps of quite a few yesterday were their first 3 or 4 straight out of the truck. Some then successfully tuned themselves to a standstill.

Big questions for today, can the rocketships from "Sprint Gas" find that promised "1 sec a lap" and blast up the grid , Wow fancy McConky being that far down , can the Giz make a set of tyres live in the heat of Darwin, will Jamie Whincup ever take a line that doesn't knock lumps out of the kerb at the gravel trap .

Well after a fine and sunny day (what else at this time of year) it would appear that one of the weapons is in fact a weapon the other may be lacking something. McConky, well not where I expected but we shall see on the money day. Jamie did what was expected except "move" tander out of the way, the kerb still doesn't look any better. The Giz may have learnt someting about the tyres.

If I was Kayne Scott I would have dne 1 lap for a time in quali and parked it, then kept three sets of spankers for the races. 28 or 29 who cares.

I really don't think Kayne is that bad so something smells and I am not sure what it is.

[GTRMagic]

R2

[SamDale]

Has there ever been a more ridiculous and obvious safety car?

Seriously: 5 laps from the end, and justified by a piece of material on the circuit...

If that's not a "made for TV" safety car, I don't know what is.

[Also a Believer]

it was a holden flag right in front of the HRT boys,,,,,still wondering where it came from.

[Reload]

Originally Posted by Also a Believer

it was a holden flag right in front of the HRT boys,,,,,still wondering where it came from.

Oh yeah, one of them would have thrown it onto the track in front of everyone !! Fair dinkum.

[TSR]

Originally Posted by lowgto

Oh yeah, one of them would have thrown it onto the track in front of everyone !! Fair dinkum.

For a win YOU just never ever know.

[GTRMagic]

R3...

FPR 1-2...

[TSR]

Well Done to FPR & Richo, and Frosty on there 1,2 at Darwin. Well Done.

[MPA]

It seems that Tander had a Flag to Flag victory in race 2.

There must have been more rubbish on the track than what C7 said.

If the Race Director pulled a SC for a cleaning rag he needs to be spanked. Even if he does enjoy it.

So a bit of rag gets scooped up and stuck in your spoiler.....it was only going to be there for a few laps..

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by CAMS Naughty Boy List

2008 V8 Supercar Championship Series, Round 6, Darwin, 4th to 6th July 2008
4 Jul 2008


DOC NO: SD 02

2008 V8 SUPERCAR CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES – ROUND 6
Hidden Valley Raceway, Darwin, Northern Territory, 4th – 6th July 2008.

SUMMARY OF PENALTIES

STEWARDS UPDATE 4: 1430hrs Sunday 6th July

Matters arising from Race 2:

The Stewards imposed a PLP on Car #9 Shane Van Gisbergen for a driving infringement on Car #18 Will Davison.

Following an investigation, it was alleged that Paul Morris Car #67 breached the Code of Driving Conduct, contact on Car #33 Lee Holdsworth. Mr Morris denied the breach. A Stewards Hearing is to be convened after Race 3 at a time to suit all parties.



STEWARDS UPDATE 3: 1730hrs Saturday 5th July

Matters arising from Race 1:

The Blue Flag was displayed to Car #2 Mark Skaife.
The Stewards imposed a PLP on Car #25 Jason Bright for a driving infringement on
Car #67 Paul Morris.



STEWARDS UPDATE 2: 1330hrs Saturday 5th July

Matters arising from Qualifying:

As consequence of causing a Red Flag during Leg 2 of Qualifying, Paul Dumbrell Car #16 was not permitted to take any further part in the Session.



STEWARDS UPDATE 1: 1700hrs Friday 4th July

Matters arising from Practice:

There were no issues.



For further details contact

Steve Chopping
Chief Steward

The story around Mr Morris' penalty is interesting. There is a story in todat's Sunday Telegraph which suggests that Mr Mezera took it upon himself to openly criticise the driving standards of Mr Morris in front of the drivers and team managers' collective at the Friday briefing.

The way the article reads, there was no forewarning, no private discussions... yay for communication failures (I thought that stuff died when the Kelvinmonster went to the FIA to show them how its done )

A penalty given to Mr Morris from the very same Mr Mezera was never likely to go down well after that singling out... so it seems, according to the above, to be being appealed.

Why dont the other penalties dished out post race get appealed the same way?

[fomoco]

Matters arising from Race 3:

The Stewards imposed Pit Lane Penalties as follows:
• Car #3 Jason Richards for a driving infringement on Car #2 Mark Skaife at Pit Entry.
• Car #12 Andrew Jones for a driving infringement on Car #55 Tony D’Alberto at Turn 6.

Following an investigation and an admission by Garth Tander that he had driven in a careless manner, contact on Jamie Whincup, Car #88, the Stewards deducted 12 Championship Points from Garth Tander.

enough said

[ford boy]

12 points penalty for Tander!!! that makes 70 point lead for Winterbottom now....

[ADZ351]

12 points!!! is that ill it costs to potentially wreck a rivals championship?

Why not a time penalty to represent a drive thru placing him down the field?

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Cams Naughty Boy list (updated)

Further Matters arising from Race 2:

Following an investigation, it was alleged that Paul Morris Car #67 breached the Code of Driving Conduct, contact on Car #33 Lee Holdsworth. Mr Morris denied the breach. A Stewards Hearing will be held at Queensland Raceway, Friday 18th July 2008.

Following an investigation, it was alleged that Paul Morris Car #67 breached the Code of Driving Conduct, contact on Car #51 Greg Murphy. Mr Morris denied the breach. A Stewards Hearing will be held at Queensland Raceway, Friday 18th July 2008.

What is the penalty for a double bunger driving standards charge?

[dsg]

Has Morris got 24 points to deduct?

[Axeman444]

interesting penalty that for Tander, I do think a penalty was warranted, it was careless driving, leaning on another car to ensure he got around the corner, but not quite as severe as warranting a drive through. end result probably a good call, one i haven't seen for a while (ie penalty equalling half a drive through)

getting a bit sick of driver 1 having a go at driver 2 when driver 2 has no chance of recourse, and driver 1 is incorrect in his statement but the uninformed viewing public then take driver 1's comments as gospel. ie McConky's statement about Jnr in R1. McConk said Jnr straightlined the right left turns 3 & 4 and speared him off, and should have been looking in his mirrors a bit more. mirrors equal behind Cameron, ie behind the B pillar, and if you look at the replay Cameron you will see you are off line at turn 3, well before the alleged straight line into turn 4, and where the camera is in the kerb at turn 4 you are almost into the fence. i am not sure how you can straight line between 2 right hand kinks at turns 2 & 3???

[Falcadore]

Originally Posted by ADZ351

12 points!!! is that ill it costs to potentially wreck a rivals championship?

Why not a time penalty to represent a drive thru placing him down the field?

Under the Paul Morris 2008 points system even his 24 point penalty is the equivalent of a 23rd placing in a sprint race. To collect 12 points from a race you have to finish a race in 29th. All you have to do is be mobile with all the other cars still circulating.

Stop the hissy fit. Winterbottom has a 70 point lead? That's 70 less over 1300 championship points. Under this silly points system the 12 points penalty would not even be worth 1 point last year.

Lets have some perspective please.

[banksie]

Originally Posted by Axeman444

getting a bit sick of driver 1 having a go at driver 2 when driver 2 has no chance of recourse, and driver 1 is incorrect in his statement but the uninformed viewing public then take driver 1's comments as gospel. ie McConky's statement about Jnr in R1. McConk said Jnr straightlined the right left turns 3 & 4 and speared him off, and should have been looking in his mirrors a bit more. mirrors equal behind Cameron, ie behind the B pillar, and if you look at the replay Cameron you will see you are off line at turn 3, well before the alleged straight line into turn 4, and where the camera is in the kerb at turn 4 you are almost into the fence. i am not sure how you can straight line between 2 right hand kinks at turns 2 & 3???

Is that why Steve Johnson appologised to McConville after race 1 because he never saw McConville and drove him off the road?

[skaife2]

the passing move by tander late race 3 was fair.888 complain when they tap cars the whole time.winterbottom is a fair racer.your thoughts?

[peckstar]

tander was penalised 12 points for it. guess it wasnt fair

[6.213km]

Ah that's right, if you're name is Lowndes your allowed to.... my mistake fellas... penalise Tander for improperly impersonating CL... OK !!

[Pro Racer]

i thought he ran wide into him although i do think it wasn't intensional atleast he wasn't given a 30-sec penalty.

[craig1]

Originally Posted by 6.213km

Ah that's right, if you're name is Lowndes your allowed to.... my mistake fellas... penalise Tander for improperly impersonating CL... OK !!

That's alright, you obviously make a lot of mistakes.