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Old 29 Jul 2001, 15:37 (Ref:123370)   #51
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Bring this topic back to life.

do any of u remember them Renault 19s in 1993 there were slow in the dry but were super in the wet. e.g Donington last but 1 round
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Old 29 Jul 2001, 19:08 (Ref:123467)   #52
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I remember that! It was sooo heavy!
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Old 29 Jul 2001, 19:35 (Ref:123475)   #53
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The R19s were not heavy. Just too narrow to be used as a serious race car.
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Old 29 Jul 2001, 20:06 (Ref:123479)   #54
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Just wondering, but how would narrowness effect the performance? Later in 93 Renault changed the car around a lot (put in a sequential gearbox) and it was much faster, even in the dry.
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Old 31 Jul 2001, 17:30 (Ref:124428)   #55
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Just wondering, but how would narrowness effect the performance? Later in 93 Renault changed the car around a lot (put in a sequential gearbox) and it was much faster, even in the dry.
Hey Radisichrox!

I reckon it had to do with the tracking of the car. When you have a narrow car, it can be less stable than one with a wider track, i.e. distance between left and right front wheels.
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Old 1 Aug 2001, 02:02 (Ref:124552)   #56
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Hello Darin

I guess... Any other cars that were like that? I can think of the BMW M3s from 1991.
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Old 2 Aug 2001, 01:13 (Ref:125019)   #57
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... and the Vauxhall Cavalier from 1991.
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Old 3 Aug 2001, 18:03 (Ref:125645)   #58
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I think the Carina/Corona had a similar problem to begin with.
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Old 4 Aug 2001, 17:44 (Ref:125851)   #59
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Every time Mansell got ina touring car he was pretty dire.
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Old 4 Aug 2001, 17:53 (Ref:125855)   #60
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At Donington in the rain Mansell looked quite impressive, but that was just the one race and the rest of the time he looked a little out of touch.
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Old 4 Aug 2001, 20:24 (Ref:125889)   #61
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I think the worst car/driver combination was Hamish Irvine/BMW 318iS (1994) & Peugeot 405 (1995)
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Old 4 Aug 2001, 20:56 (Ref:125905)   #62
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Every time Mansell got ina touring car he was pretty dire.

He ran into Starkeys bridge at Donington in 1993!!!


Who could be stupid enough to drive into a bridge!?!
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Old 4 Aug 2001, 20:59 (Ref:125909)   #63
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I think the worst car/driver combination was Hamish Irvine/BMW 318iS (1994) & Peugeot 405 (1995)
I agree that in 1994 Hamish was pretty pathetic, especially because he was in a 2 year old car. However, in 1995, he had a couple of good races as a privateer.
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Old 4 Aug 2001, 21:15 (Ref:125920)   #64
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I still reckon Eugene O'Brien was the worst, Peugeot 405 94?
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If there's a rule against resurrecting threads, my apologies, Grahame Davis' Rover from 1991 or the works Mitsubishi's Mark Hales drove.
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Old 17 Jul 2018, 21:42 (Ref:3837189)   #66
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If there's a rule against resurrecting threads, my apologies, Grahame Davis' Rover from 1991 or the works Mitsubishi's Mark Hales drove.
No rule, but can you resurrect a 'best' driver one next? It feels like you're on some kind of mission at the moment!
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Old 17 Jul 2018, 21:48 (Ref:3837191)   #67
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No rule, but can you resurrect a 'best' driver one next? It feels like you're on some kind of mission at the moment!
Just offering my retrospective opinions since I was just a kid when this forum started.
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Old 18 Jul 2018, 06:36 (Ref:3837230)   #68
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How about the works Infiniti/Palmer effort? Car was undeveloped, team was a bit strange with how it went about things and the drivers weren't exactly experienced with modern tin tops
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Old 18 Jul 2018, 10:21 (Ref:3837266)   #69
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How about the works Infiniti/Palmer effort? Car was undeveloped, team was a bit strange with how it went about things and the drivers weren't exactly experienced with modern tin tops
An experienced driver would helped.
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