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24 Feb 2023, 05:11 (Ref:4144737) | #51 | |
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They have one day per race meeting on free-to-air this year. A wise decision.
In other news, some claim the Kumho tyres are better than Michelins, which according to some Michelin fans ought to be impossible! https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/buchan-t...-out-for-2023/ |
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Too many options, Kayo/Foxtel or SBS. I aint paying for Stan when i have NETFLIX which i rarely watch, too hard...
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24 Feb 2023, 11:35 (Ref:4144772) | #54 | ||
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I have Stan for the wife so last year I paid the extra $10 a month while TCR and Indy Cars were on but cancelled it once the racing finished last year, went it to pay to get it again this year but they want to charge me $15 a month on top of the $16 a month I pay now. To much for me to pay on the pension so no TCR or Indy Car for me this year.
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25 Feb 2023, 07:27 (Ref:4144845) | #55 | ||
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In a way I think it's good that privateers persisted in the Australian Super Touring Championship. Seeing the BTCC with only 10 entries -- 9 works, 1 privateer was a shame. I don't understand why privateers in Britain weren't keen to run their outclassed '96 or '97-spec Super Tourers for the prestige of racing in the BTCC's top class even if they would qualify 2-3 seconds a lap or more off the shmick Prodrive Mondeos. Of course, TCR cars are much cheaper to buy and are meant to be cheaper to run and durable compared to Super Tourers. Which they should be, if not for crash damage. See here how repairing Civic Type R TCR is similar to repairing a road-going Civic hatchback (complete with using doors from a wrecking yard), almost like it's actually a "touring car" : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6xNIzV0X6k Not sure why the carefully prepared MPC Audis were having issues! By wise, I mean better than no free-to-air at all! As it turns out, TCR and the rest of Speed Series on 9Gem must generate less advertising (or other) revenue than old Westerns on 9Gem, so it is what it is! Worst case: pay for the production, buy time on FTA to broadcast the coverage? Neutral case: pay for the production, but provide it for free for a FTA broadcaster to broadcast on the understanding they keep the advertising revenue? Solution they've taken: get paid but be used as a draw for 9's streaming service... not smart? Last edited by V8 Fireworks; 25 Feb 2023 at 07:43. |
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You would assume (hope) part of the reason for the small grid is jointly the fact that round 1 is in Tasmania and round 2 isn’t until May?
The fact the calendar still isn’t finalised doesn’t help either. TCM backing up for Newcastle in two weeks wouldn’t help them either. Then again pre-AVESCO touring car events in Tasmania always struggled to get above 15ish cars, apart from the odd exception so while it’s not a great look it also mightn’t be a worry come May. On another note, Sweeney did it easy didn’t he. |
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Smart maybe if you're ARG, but not smart if the idea was to grow the actual racing and make it so your teams can fund the racing with exposure. TA2 grid seems healthy but TCR and S5000 are awfully thin. In other TCR news: https://wwos.nine.com.au/motorsport/...GIFivnVbShLftg GRM to build Peugeot TCR car from 2024. Can you imagine the ballyhoo if a majority shareholder in something like Supercars was also building a car? Not that there has been any majority shareholder in a long time. I just don't get the hero worship for GRM as compared to the conspiracy theories that follow 888 around. |
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Great news! It goes to show Australian outifts are capable of designing and building customer cars for the world market, just like I said!
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I'm lucky, I have a mate who lets me use his stan account for free and I throw him the extra $120 per year for the sports package as he's into it as well. If I didn't have that option of chipping in I wouldn't be watching. I didn't know it had gone from $10 a month to $15...hope he doesn't notice ! I haven't watched a V8 Supercar or F1 race since 2014 when they went to Foxtel. I'm not paying those exorbitant rates ! |
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It's gonna be hard to find coverage this year. Just have to find what you can. TCR Australia doesn't seem to figure high in Aussie sports. Other sports seem to have priority
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Hmm ARG back to funding cars is it?
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It's a fair question - right now there is a fair exodus to Carrera Cup, TransAm and Super2 all along the lines that TCR doesn't offer the crowd or promotional opportunities of those other classes.
TransAm is still stuck on Stan, but you have to imagine that the difficulty in viewing TCR compared to Porsches or Super2 has to be part of the reason these comments are made. it's pretty serious for TCR that up and comers who are not with GRM see that they need to go elsewhere. People are regularly graduating from Trans Am into Super2 but nobody from TCR. Unless something is done, this could be the beginning of the end. |
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Interesting! A shame then that not all that many customer cars were delivered compared to the more common cars like Audi, Honda etc, but at least the customer cars are coming out now. The Lynk & Co certainly has some curious things like door bars that make it very difficult to get in and out of the car, which is unusual for a customer racing car as they usually have low door bars for ease of entry and exit to suit a variety of amateur racers. Yes, the category certainly needs a better commercial package. Perhaps more rounds and prominent free-to-air television and streaming. The cost to buy and run the cars themselves is very reasonable, so I don't think that running costs are the problem, more a lack of commercial exposure. I would consider holding the Bathurst TCR world cup round as an international 1000km race too. |
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The livery does well to avoid emphasis on the upper set of headlights.
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He doesn't address how something needs to be done to make TCR a more attractive commercial package than Carrera Cup or Super 2. It's not like the cars cost more to run than those classes, as they do not. It's not like TCRs are much slower than BTCC NGTC cars, as they are not. In Britain they are only about 1s/lap slower despite being around half of the price to buy or run than an NGTC car. As we have seen in WTCR or TCR Asia at Macau, TCR Europe and elsewhere, the cars are more then fast enough to produce close, exciting racing with cars being pushed hard. Perhaps the cars are in fact cheaper (or no more expensive) to run than Trans Am TA2 even? |
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TCR cars themselves are not a spectacle compared to Supercars or even TA2. Market relevance is supposed to be the hook but when there are too few cars, the only well known drivers are retired Supercars drivers, and the best talent is elsewhere, it's hard to know how they can recover. If ARG hadn't put together this Oliphant/Lynk and Co deal themselves it would be even worse. If it were not for GRM it's likely that both S5000 and TCR would fall over as independent categories. When a majority shareholder in the category owner is running nearly half the cars, it's a major concern. |
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TCR globally is in a bit of a weird spot.
Exisiting championships that were previously strong are contracting, while others are growing. The cars have no trouble finding homes though. Without ARG tipping money in, I think TCR Australia will continue sliding. About a grid's worth of cars just sitting around; 1x Honda 4x Alfas 3x Audis 2x VWs 1x Cupra 3x Renaults 4x Hyundais Although it'd still be cheaper to buy something out of Europe pre-raced with a whole heap of spares, compared to what's on the market here. They're not an expensive nor difficult car to run, despite what a car preparer or lessor will tell you... |
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Not even a Fabian Coulthard or similar who might grab interest. Transam is far and away the most competitive and interesting ARG category. Some might say the only one. |
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