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29 Apr 2010, 12:02 (Ref:2681610) | #51 | ||
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Crikey, some of those are incredibly rare.
I don't think i've ever seen a decent view of the Sunbeam, RS2000 or Fiesta before, well not since I was at Thruxton that very year, which I don't remember much about now anyway! I take it the shooter is Simon Arron of Autosport fame, I think he loved saloons before F3000 took his attention. |
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2 Jul 2010, 12:14 (Ref:2721107) | #53 | |
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A few more 1982 shots amongst these:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1678887...7624382877618/ (link already posted in the Capri thread, but thought it was worth copying here) |
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2 Jul 2010, 18:38 (Ref:2721240) | #54 | ||
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Here's my stab at what's relevant for 1982. As the pictures in general seems to be from Oulton Park, it sets the date on April 4th 1982, as it was the only round of the BSCC held at Oulton in 1982. The entries were split in two seperate races - one for class A and B and another for C and D.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1678887...7624382877618/ Vince Woodman, but can't tell which year. The number and positions of Dunlop stickers might tell those better in the know. http://www.flickr.com/photos/1678887...7624382877618/ #25 Jon Dooley, B - Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5 8th oa / 2nd in class http://www.flickr.com/photos/1678887...7624382877618/ #27 Mike Buckley, B - Ford Escort RS2000 10th oa / 4th in class http://www.flickr.com/photos/1678887...7624382877618/ #30 Terry Nightingale, B - Mazda RX-7 9th oa / 3rd in class http://www.flickr.com/photos/1678887...7624382877618/ #32 Hamish Irvine, B - Triumph Dolomite Sprint 7th oa / class winner http://www.flickr.com/photos/1678887...7624382877618/ #36 Tony Lanfranchi, C - Volkswagen Scirocco GTI 3rd oa / 3rd in class http://www.flickr.com/photos/1678887...7624382877618/ #40 Win Percy, C - Toyota Corolla 1600 GT 1st oa / 1st in class http://www.flickr.com/photos/1678887...7624382877618/ #50 John Tait, C - Toyota Corolla 1600 GT unknown result - noted that the designation of the car reads something like Toyota Corolla 1.6 SR "something". http://www.flickr.com/photos/1678887...7624382877618/ #68 John Spiller, C - Talbot Sunbeam ti 9th oa / 6th in class This picture seems to be too bright compared to the others, so might be from 1981, but can't tell!? http://www.flickr.com/photos/1678887...7624382877618/ #71 Alan Curnow, D - Austin Mini Metro DNF and presumably #77 Richard Longman, D - Austin Mini Metro 4th oa / 1st in class http://www.flickr.com/photos/1678887...7624382877618/ #72 Roger Saunders, D - Austin Mini Metro 8th oa / 3rd in class http://www.flickr.com/photos/1678887...7624382877618/ #73 Neil McGrath, D - Austin Mini Metro DNF Jesper |
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12 Nov 2010, 11:32 (Ref:2789071) | #55 | ||
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Remarks on race 1-3
I've just finished the 1982 BSCC for my site from Motoring news, and below is what I found on additional or differing info:
Race 1: some more overall positions (13/14/19) and total time for class winners; Burrows didn't get 4 points for third so I guess he was a DNF; Dooley retired of oil loss; Kirby was a non-starter instead of DNA Race 2: pole according to MN was 50,45 instead of 50,54; there's a typo in Rouse total time; Buckley finished 4th in class according to MN but didn't get points; total time for class winners; I guess Terry Watts' number was 67 (it was at Oulton); Thorpe had an accident indeed; Robertson's Fiesta wasn't an XR2 - that was homologated in october 1982 as far as I know. Race 3: Dickinson finished 11th, Sawyer-H 12th; Buckley's practice time doesn't seem right. Robertson has #45 in the entry list; Watts and Tait retired; MN gives Lanfranchi second on the grid and Morris third; Dooley and Thorpe are switched on the grid. |
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12 Nov 2010, 15:16 (Ref:2789172) | #56 | ||
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Races 4-6
Race 4
Palmer seems to have been disqualified since he got no points but Burrows got points for fourth; I considered Sytner as DNF; Tait finished 6th in class Race 5 no remarks Race 6 I have Robertson as a non-starter ("too late") |
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13 Nov 2010, 09:32 (Ref:2789554) | #57 | ||
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Races 7-9
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Overall positions up to 11th (Robertson) with total time; MN has Irvine on 21 laps only Race 8 Overall pos up to 13th (Irvine, Hoyer, Brundle) wih total time; some more info on laps completed Race 9 Greenhalgh finished third in class, order from 11th down is Thorpe, McGrath, Greenhalgh, Hurdwell and Crudgington 15th; total time for all bar Lovett. |
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13 Nov 2010, 10:52 (Ref:2789580) | #58 | ||
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Races 10-11
Race 10:
according to MN, tomekeepers confused Soper and Longman; in the it was corrected, Soper got 1.45,8 and Longman 1.46,2. Race 11: Positions 11-15 are Morris, Irvine, Lanfranchi, Soper and Nightingale; Thorpe, Greenhalgh and Brundle all retired |
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14 Nov 2010, 16:00 (Ref:2790303) | #59 | ||
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[QUOTE=Frank de Jong;2789071]
Race 2: pole according to MN was 50,45 instead of 50,54; there's a typo in Rouse total time; Buckley finished 4th in class according to MN but didn't get points; total time for class winners; I guess Terry Watts' number was 67 (it was at Oulton); Thorpe had an accident indeed; Robertson's Fiesta wasn't an XR2 - that was homologated in october 1982 as far as I know. QUOTE] A Ford Fiesta 1.6 - the American version? - was homologated for group 1 on January 1st 1980. I'm quite sure that the XR2 was around the streets during the summer of 1982, but no sooner. Thank you for the updates, Frank. Looking forward to the updates on your site. Jesper |
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15 Nov 2010, 14:11 (Ref:2791045) | #60 | ||
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IIRC the XR2 actually hit the Ford dealers in 1981....
Believe you're right about the standard 1600cc engine/car being homolgated though. |
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15 Nov 2010, 15:06 (Ref:2791079) | #61 | ||
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Yes, a normal 1.6 was homologated allright. But there had to be 5000 Cars built before homologation.
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16 Nov 2010, 19:21 (Ref:2791776) | #62 | ||
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Had a second look at the qualifying times and found that Buckley recorded a 1:14.66 in Q1 and the quoted 1:12.99 in Q2 - but I'll give you, it doesn't seem right. In the text it says the two Escort were bringing up the rear, meaning Buckley and Dickinson, with the Dolomite of Hamish Irvine being just in front in 1:14.49 in Q1 and DNP in Q2 due to a cracked brake disc.
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27 Dec 2010, 16:09 (Ref:2808814) | #63 | ||
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The 1982 BSCC is now live on my site www.touringcarracing.net
Starting on 1983 now... |
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27 Mar 2012, 17:08 (Ref:3049524) | #64 | ||
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Longman/Soper in the 'Hepolite' car... http://www.flickr.com/photos/kartingnord/6314914694/in/set-72157628057466012 ...and Curnow/McGrath in the 'Datapost' http://www.flickr.com/photos/karting...7628057466012/ |
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26 Aug 2013, 19:53 (Ref:3294356) | #65 | ||
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Taken in the Silverstone paddock. Not sure which round in 82. Possibly Soper doing the steering?
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26 Aug 2013, 20:02 (Ref:3294358) | #66 | ||
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...and one of Win Percy's Corolla sat outside the pit garage.
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27 Aug 2013, 16:30 (Ref:3294798) | #67 | ||
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1 Jan 2023, 21:40 (Ref:4138685) | #69 | ||
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Also, I have worked through a variety of source materials, mostly original results and starting grid sheets (such as this one), and published the 1982 results online at TouringCars.Net now. This should help to fill in some of the gaps from Frank's site.
https://www.touringcars.net/database...BTCC&year=1982 |
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18 Jan 2023, 14:59 (Ref:4140538) | #70 | |
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Good job, Andrew. I have already been able to add a bit of new data from your site to my 1982-BSCC spread sheat.
Frank are sorely missed, and although nothing happens on his site, very importandly, it's still there! Only recently I used it to get a bit of understanding of the lover level German touring car scene during the 1960s-1980s, with lots of airfield dates. Jesper |
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