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Old 24 Dec 2009, 08:43 (Ref:2604575)   #51
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as this race is in a time zone that i like can anyone tell me if it will be shown on the TV in the UK and can you also find out if it is live for this please?
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Old 27 Dec 2009, 11:53 (Ref:2605344)   #52
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Theres too much of this changing to suit others crap going on. Personally i don't see any benefit to the category by having those overseas rounds (NZ excluded). The series should come as a package deal, you either get all the teams as they are, or none!
Stealthy - as stated by guys like Paul Cruikshank, Brad Jones and Dick Johnson, its either have these overseas rounds, or have no rounds.

These rounds are 100% funded by the organisers and international exposure IS good for the sport, good for the sponsors and good for the manufacturers.
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Old 27 Dec 2009, 12:55 (Ref:2605361)   #53
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Stealthy - as stated by guys like Paul Cruikshank, Brad Jones and Dick Johnson, its either have these overseas rounds, or have no rounds.

These rounds are 100% funded by the organisers and international exposure IS good for the sport, good for the sponsors and good for the manufacturers.
I wasn't aware our series was on the brink of collapse had it not been for these overseas rounds.
Thanks for the history lesson
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Old 27 Dec 2009, 20:07 (Ref:2605458)   #54
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Old 2 Jan 2010, 00:39 (Ref:2607205)   #55
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On the topic of the older night races which were discussed earlier, I uploaded the night race from Eastern Creek in 96 recently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9wMbinxB9g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICGr2...eature=related
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Old 4 Jan 2010, 05:27 (Ref:2607858)   #56
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finally someone has seen the light on Tilke's tracks, Abu Dhabi included, and agree they are as boring as the bats proverbial...
http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2010/01/...me-under-fire/

wonder of the V8's will feature more passing than the F1 circus
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Old 4 Jan 2010, 09:00 (Ref:2607899)   #57
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finally someone has seen the light on Tilke's tracks, Abu Dhabi included, and agree they are as boring as the bats proverbial...
http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2010/01/...me-under-fire/

wonder of the V8's will feature more passing than the F1 circus

Well, Well. How good would it be to see the V8s on a track that would be sufficiently wide to suit them!

Getting a bit sick of hearing how much better the WTCC (Why is there a "W" there?) is than the V8SC.

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Old 4 Jan 2010, 22:22 (Ref:2608182)   #58
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Why is there a "W" there?
because they go to the requisite 3 continents to make them believe they go to all corners of the world, like the world series baseball where "world" means it has 2 teams from Canada
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because they go to the requisite 3 continents to make them believe they go to all corners of the world, like the world series baseball where "world" means it has 2 teams from Canada
That's been one team from Canada for some years now!
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That's been one team from Canada for some years now!
Stanley Cup is heaps better anyway!
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Old 7 Jan 2010, 03:13 (Ref:2609221)   #61
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That's been one team from Canada for some years now!
shows what notice the rest of the world takes
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Stealthy - as stated by guys like Paul Cruikshank, Brad Jones and Dick Johnson, its either have these overseas rounds, or have no rounds.
Thats interesting, considering the championship ran for 41 seasons before an overseas round was introduced (Pukekohe 2001)

There were plenty of rounds without those overseas ventures
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Old 7 Jan 2010, 05:48 (Ref:2609258)   #63
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Thats interesting, considering the championship ran for 41 seasons before an overseas round was introduced (Pukekohe 2001)
Yes, but the comment being made is that the championship would be shorter, like in the past, without these overseas rounds we would just have the existing Australian rounds.
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Old 7 Jan 2010, 21:24 (Ref:2609718)   #64
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Thats interesting, considering the championship ran for 41 seasons before an overseas round was introduced (Pukekohe 2001)

There were plenty of rounds without those overseas ventures
I think you will find that it only ran for 4 years before an overseas round - The Black Wiggle tells everyone that it started in 1997 remember....
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Old 8 Jan 2010, 07:04 (Ref:2609882)   #65
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because they go to the requisite 3 continents to make them believe they go to all corners of the world, like the world series baseball where "world" means it has 2 teams from Canada
Actually, the original sponsor was The World Newspaper!
Hence.... The "World" Series.
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Old 10 Jan 2010, 10:20 (Ref:2610888)   #66
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but isn't anymore, so we don't have to keep it, but they will...
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Old 10 Jan 2010, 10:54 (Ref:2610906)   #67
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The World Series ...

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Actually, the original sponsor was The World Newspaper!
Hence.... The "World" Series.
Exposes agendas year in, year out ... if they bothered to check !!!
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Old 11 Jan 2010, 02:49 (Ref:2611344)   #68
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Reduces his chances of winning the title now...
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Reduces his chances of winning the title now...
Seems that he is as motivated as PD in 2010.

Sure that there would be many more talented young drivers than "Murph" who would have committed to every round. I have a feeling that it won't cost him the championship though and that he could probably do many more shows.
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Old 11 Jan 2010, 03:01 (Ref:2611352)   #70
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Murphy: "Yeah, I'd like nothing more than to get that 5 off of the window and just have the 1 there"

I've heard him say that more than one year leading into a season now and it's getting boring and bit of a joke!

This is his best shot in years at maybe looking like he has half a chance and he stuffs it up like this!

You're supposed to be a professional race car driver, Murph! So WTF are you doing doing a TV show when you're supposed to be driving in the opening round of the championship you idiot!

You dont see Jimmy Johnson missing the Daytona 500 to do a few interviews for Speed TV do you.

I don't care whether it was your management team who stuffed it up, you yourself or the excuse that the opening round date wasn't realesed yet when you signed for top gear, I just don't care. The whole thing shows a tremendous lack of forsight and commitment and seriously reduces your callibre and reputation as a so-called "professional" race car driver.

What's the point of even racing for the rest of the season if you miss the first round and your supposed to be "in the hunt for the championship".

FOFF Murph as far as I'm concerned. Very very VERY poor form!
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On the positve side, at least with PM back, the teams will be able to fit their shortened cars on the freighter more easily for the trip home.
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Old 11 Jan 2010, 03:41 (Ref:2611364)   #72
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Is New Zealand that short of motorsport personalities that the Top Gear Live show couldn't replace Murf? How about Craig Baird or Paul Radisich? Maybe the $$$ are too big to turn down? Agree his commitment level is up there with Dumbrell's.
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Old 11 Jan 2010, 03:51 (Ref:2611367)   #73
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Probably got more to do with who has the better high priced lawyers??

Top Gear probably has some good ones!!
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Old 11 Jan 2010, 05:03 (Ref:2611404)   #74
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Interesting to note TGL is sponsored by Shell, surely Murf could have got out on clash of sponsorship grounds. http://www.topgearlive.co.nz/
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yeah seems like water tight contract.

it was pretty dopey commiting to TGL before the calendar was released and hopefully he has learned his lesson as it could and probably will cost him a run at the championship.
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