Saving Spa-Francorchamps - Page 3

ASCII Man · 24 Nov 2005, 17:25 (Ref:1469457)

I don't think this has been brought to attention before so I'll just post it here then.
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns15958.html
The above mentioned article explains the situation with Spa-Francorchamps just perfectly.

And if the sounds of the Flemish government are anything to go by, heads will roll in the Walloon government soon..
What with signing a contract which promises huge amounts of taxpayers money to the FIA, without consent of said taxpayers and all...

Dutton · 24 Nov 2005, 17:35 (Ref:1469464)

FOM, not FIA.

For me, the most important thing that it highlights is the, imho, gorssly unreasonable bias in the favour of Bernie with race arrangements could potentially screw future races in places where governments/rulers are not willing subsidise the races.

It seems to me this just accelerates the shift to Tilkedromes in "far-off lands".

Holding races in these new places is not in itself a problem, but doing so to the exclusion of all the remaining traditional tracks/countries is not very positive.

We just have to hope a few of the traditional venues can cope with subsidising said events (or devise a means of persuading companies to invest in headline sponsorship).

We Love Osella · 27 Nov 2005, 18:24 (Ref:1471491)

Eventually, It's all going to go to the far east. Tobacco advertising will see to that

**Adam43** · 27 Nov 2005, 18:37 (Ref:1471497)

Eventually tobacco advertising will be banned worldwide. WHO are pushing for that and have outlined plans for that.

We Love Osella · 27 Nov 2005, 18:41 (Ref:1471500)

i think it might be difficult in the far east though

Kicking-back · 27 Nov 2005, 18:59 (Ref:1471514)

None of the teams will be carrying tobacco liveries anyway - so races won't move east for that reason

safc_fan89 · 27 Nov 2005, 19:01 (Ref:1471520)

I thought Ferrari still were, or are they still just sponsored by a tobacco company?

Kicking-back · 27 Nov 2005, 19:03 (Ref:1471525)

Correct

They'll be moving towards a car which carries only petrol and tyre logos.

We Love Osella · 27 Nov 2005, 19:04 (Ref:1471527)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kicking-back

They'll be moving towards a car which carries only petrol and tyre logos.

I can remember those days, and the cars were quite evocative

Gt_R · 27 Nov 2005, 19:35 (Ref:1471569)

Not exactly. IIRC, P.M. owns the sponsors spaces on the Ferrari. But that also mean that they can in turn sell the space to other sponsors, or even other subsidaries under PM.

The completely red car is if they try to make Ferrari look like a Marlboro pack on wheels, but it's quite a price to pay for a non-logo livery.

We Love Osella · 27 Nov 2005, 19:38 (Ref:1471571)

PM also owns Kenco, which is red, so how about Kenco sponsorship

Kicking-back · 27 Nov 2005, 19:44 (Ref:1471576)

Gt_R - Philip Morris are currently trying to get Vodafone off the car, so rather than selling space on, they do indeed want a "plain" livery.

We Love Osella · 27 Nov 2005, 19:47 (Ref:1471579)

No Vodafone, that'll be disappointing, no Schumi on the ads during the winter

JeremySmith · 30 Nov 2005, 01:43 (Ref:1473552)

A contract is a contract according to Bernie. There is nothing to discuss!

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=34618

insideline · 30 Nov 2005, 10:09 (Ref:1473730)

Has Bernie mentioned this contract is a contract thing to Jenson Button

JeremySmith · 30 Nov 2005, 12:26 (Ref:1473826)

I think I am right in saying that Bernie did say that Jenson should honor his contract with Sir Frank Williams. Off topic sorry about that.

maltafan · 30 Nov 2005, 21:48 (Ref:1474199)

Quote:

Originally Posted by We Love Osella

No Vodafone, that'll be disappointing, no Schumi on the ads during the winter

I heard that long time ago and If I remember correctly Vodafone was interested to sponsor Honda.

Hein · 9 Dec 2005, 12:35 (Ref:1480396)

Great news!!!

I see that Bernie is close to closing a deal that will save the Spa race.

JeremySmith · 10 Dec 2005, 03:31 (Ref:1480996)

I am glad to hear that as well..

maltafan · 10 Dec 2005, 15:59 (Ref:1481240)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hein

Great news!!!

I see that Bernie is close to closing a deal that will save the Spa race.

I hope that common sense reigns, and we will still have the best track on the 2006 calendar.

ascarmarshal · 10 Dec 2005, 16:21 (Ref:1481247)

Also Bernie had a 15 year contract with Octagon to hold the BGP and he broke that so that he could get more money.

JeremySmith · 10 Dec 2005, 16:25 (Ref:1481252)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ascarmarshal

Also Bernie had a 15 year contract with Octagon to hold the BGP and he broke that so that he could get more money.

Is that right, how was he able to do that exactly?

ascarmarshal · 10 Dec 2005, 16:28 (Ref:1481254)

I am not sure by the contract was to run from 2002 until 2017. The contract was orginally with Brands Hatch Lesiure Group which became Octagon Motorsports when Nicola Foulston sold to Interpublic.

JeremySmith · 10 Dec 2005, 16:38 (Ref:1481257)

It is interesting that the *home* of Formula1, has been threatened several times hasn't it? Very mean tactics I think. Although I do not know most of the details. Bernie had to step in with Spa, he would never live it down if that circuit disappeared. I have to add though the man is not a race promoter as such is he.

Inigo Montoya · 14 Dec 2005, 13:07 (Ref:1483851)

Gazzetta is reporting that a new deal has been signed to keep the Belgian GP in Spa for "many years" to come.

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