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Old 22 Sep 2024, 16:12 (Ref:4227835)   #51
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Yeah reading through the carnage on Facebook Rob Austin and 2015 is mentioned numerous times, not that I remember it myself.

I'm not even sure why they have that giant bowl that they can see inside anyway.
It's wrapped in black plastic, so it's not really see through apart from the hole they put their arm in.

...and Hill is so short, he can't see in that anyway.
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 16:12 (Ref:4227836)   #52
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They arent going to race in this, surely?
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 16:13 (Ref:4227837)   #53
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I can't remember what race weekend it was, but I definitely remember the Rob Austin incident, and if I recall correctly TV/trackside commentary said the draw had been redone afterwards.
IIRC it was, and the same number came out anyway to put his teammate on pole!
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 16:18 (Ref:4227841)   #54
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Honestly what the hell? Why did they even start this? It was obvious it was too wet.

I dont want to say i told you so, but...

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Old 22 Sep 2024, 16:27 (Ref:4227846)   #55
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can't they just red flag and give half points only ??

cos otherwise this is farcical
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 16:31 (Ref:4227849)   #56
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It's wrapped in black plastic, so it's not really see through apart from the hole they put their arm in.

...and Hill is so short, he can't see in that anyway.

Hey I'm just saying how it looked on TV. It was suspect especially with the jokes about lowering the table. That's all I'm saying. Coincidences happen.
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 16:34 (Ref:4227851)   #57
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So what happens if it is called off? Enough distance for half points? 4 races at Brands!?
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 16:41 (Ref:4227858)   #58
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It's wrapped in black plastic, so it's not really see through apart from the hole they put their arm in.

...and Hill is so short, he can't see in that anyway.
It looked an awful lot like he looked in the hole as he was putting his arm in
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 16:44 (Ref:4227859)   #59
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time running out

and none of the drivers wants to continue


AFAIK a result cannot be declared because 50% of the race has not been completed
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 16:49 (Ref:4227862)   #60
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Despite some of the ridiculous comments on X about RWD favouritism, it needs to be safe for all the cars to run.

I have a feeling they may send the cars back out behind the safety car to get to half distance so they can award points if anything does happen.
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 16:52 (Ref:4227863)   #61
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^ restart under safety car

that's just farcical
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 16:53 (Ref:4227865)   #62
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Well at least it will quell the arguments about the draw. It's backfired on Hill now if he did do it.

No chance they're going to race, they just want to get to half distance to declare a result.
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 17:02 (Ref:4227868)   #63
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6pm curfew means something different where I’m from apparently.
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 17:06 (Ref:4227872)   #64
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6pm curfew means something different where I’m from apparently.
So does maximum of 15 laps!
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 17:07 (Ref:4227873)   #65
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Hill gained a place
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 17:19 (Ref:4227878)   #66
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Hill 367
Tingram 365
Sutton 332


so much for 6.00 curfews ...
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 17:24 (Ref:4227880)   #67
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6pm curfew means something different where I’m from apparently.
That's why I thought they weren't going to race. Guess they're allowed a certain number of breaches or something.
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 18:35 (Ref:4227914)   #68
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I believe that at some circuits, a race has to start before a certain time, if it does then it can run for up to 30 mins after the cut-off.

Might be the case at Silverstone.
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 18:54 (Ref:4227929)   #69
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That's why I thought they weren't going to race. Guess they're allowed a certain number of breaches or something.
Could also be worth paying a one off fine compared to commercial loses for cancelling a race.
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 19:03 (Ref:4227937)   #70
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Zelos loses 2 places for an incident with #12 Huff

Penalty for Jake Hill, although what BTCC have posted and what's on the BARC noticeboard are different
BTCC (and TSL) says Hill drops 1 place for incident with #27 Cammish;
BARC says 2 penalty points for incident with car 12 (Huff)
I think there's a mix-up with the Zelos decision.
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 19:06 (Ref:4227941)   #71
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Means that Hill and Ingram go into Brands on equal points, and presumably equal hybrid too.
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 19:18 (Ref:4227951)   #72
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Zelos loses 2 places for an incident with #12 Huff

Penalty for Jake Hill, although what BTCC have posted and what's on the BARC noticeboard are different
BTCC (and TSL) says Hill drops 1 place for incident with #27 Cammish;
BARC says 2 penalty points for incident with car 12 (Huff)
I think there's a mix-up with the Zelos decision.
There were two judicials for Hill. The one that got him two points was not giving Huff room at the exit of T5. The one place penalty was for bump and run with Cammish.

Zelos got two place drop for hitting Huff which I think was after Hill had run Huff off.
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 19:20 (Ref:4227955)   #73
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that's ******** smells like title fixing
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 19:25 (Ref:4227957)   #74
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Means that Hill and Ingram go into Brands on equal points, and presumably equal hybrid too.
Hill 365
Ingram 365
Sutton 332 (-33)
Cammish 309 (-56)
Cook 302 (-63)
Turkington 301 (-64)

Hill has wins so in theory leads the championship but that only applies at the end of the year. Hybrid just uses points so they will get the same allocation.

Max score over the weekend is 67 points so theoretically it's a 6-way battle but in reality anything more than a2-way battle is a stretch.
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Old 22 Sep 2024, 19:26 (Ref:4227958)   #75
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There were two judicials for Hill. The one that got him two points was not giving Huff room at the exit of T5. The one place penalty was for bump and run with Cammish.

Zelos got two place drop for hitting Huff which I think was after Hill had run Huff off.
Second Hill decision was posted when I looked
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