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Old 17 Dec 2004, 00:30 (Ref:1181501)   #51
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There was a suggestion in Autosport that ITR might have funded MG Rover's entry this year with a view to a Chinese takeover and MG Rover funding further years themselves.
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Old 17 Dec 2004, 00:30 (Ref:1181502)   #52
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Old 17 Dec 2004, 04:10 (Ref:1181578)   #53
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There was a suggestion in Autosport that ITR might have funded MG Rover's entry this year with a view to a Chinese takeover and MG Rover funding further years themselves.
But what if the new company doesn't step in or not enough? Will Rover be a one year entry? Or will Rover become the "Team Ruch" of the new DTM? Whatever happened to Team Ruch that raced the Mustang in the DTM days? I know in the final year of the DTM, they were given a MB to race?
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Old 17 Dec 2004, 05:16 (Ref:1181590)   #54
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After winning the BPR-Trophy in a Porsche 911 GT2 in 1996 he quit racing


found a nice quote referring to the Nrodschleife: "Nach dem ersten Lauf hatte ich nur noch nackte Angst. Um nicht zum zweiten Durchgang antreten zu müssen, habe ich einen Defekt vorgetäuscht. Der Mustang war dort absolut unfahrbar."

which roughly means: "After the first run I had only "naked fear". In order not to have to drive in the second leg, I pretended a defect. The mustang was absolutely undriveable there."

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Old 6 Jan 2005, 18:50 (Ref:1194645)   #55
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If the car will look like this it's great!
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Old 6 Jan 2005, 19:48 (Ref:1194680)   #56
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That's the old shape MG-ZS - so I wouldn't expect so.
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Old 6 Jan 2005, 20:37 (Ref:1194730)   #57
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that's a MG ZT

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Old 6 Jan 2005, 20:49 (Ref:1194738)   #58
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That was in Autosport before Christmas.


'New' ZT is the same shape, just some altered headlights and bodywork.
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That's the old shape MG-ZS - so I wouldn't expect so.
But looks great (better as the Opel Vectra)
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Old 7 Jan 2005, 16:13 (Ref:1195315)   #60
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I've watched every DTM race I've been able too but never made a point of being excited over a new season... MG and the new races at Spa, Moscow and France change all of that for me. I doubt I'm alone on this either.

I can't see anyone topping the DTM this season.
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Old 7 Jan 2005, 19:00 (Ref:1195430)   #61
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Porviding MG are in, and Reid is one of the drivers, I'd definitely be looking at a trip to Spa..
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Old 9 Jan 2005, 14:24 (Ref:1196520)   #62
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Jeroen Bleekemolen will drive in Infiniti Pro Series (feeder series of IRL) next season. There was some interest from Rover but nothing was certain so he decided to choose for an adventure in N. America. Source: autosport.nl
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Jeroen Bleekemolen will drive in Infiniti Pro Series (feeder series of IRL) next season. There was some interest from Rover but nothing was certain so he decided to choose for an adventure in N. America. Source: autosport.nl
Some extra: Bleekemolen can sign a deal with Kenn Hardley Racing, but he still has an open door for Rover. He decides about his future in the next 2 weeks.
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Old 13 Jan 2005, 19:22 (Ref:1200130)   #64
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According to a snippet in Autosport the MG DTM project could have no involvement from MG.....

As we know, the series organisers have funded the project to date, but MG will have to contribute to a marketing fund to appear as a manufacturer entry.

According to MG sport boss, Rob Oldaker - "We've been asked to make certain commitments and we need to see if they make sense"

Hmmm

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Old 13 Jan 2005, 19:38 (Ref:1200143)   #65
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A project that is nothing to do with a manufacturer - only MG would ever do this!
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Old 13 Jan 2005, 22:06 (Ref:1200294)   #66
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The series organisers have NOT, I repeat, NOT funded the particular project. They have only helped in finding funds for the project.

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Old 14 Jan 2005, 07:30 (Ref:1200599)   #67
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A project that is nothing to do with a manufacturer - only MG would ever do this!
There arelots of car projects that have nothing to do with the manufacturer, but which they subsequently milk - the RJN Nissan was pretty much a private effrt last year, and yet the car is on the Nissan stand at the NEC; the ProDrive Ferrari GT was funded by a wealthy French amature, against the factory wishes, etc. etc.
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The series organisers have NOT, I repeat, NOT funded the particular project. They have only helped in finding funds for the project.
But are we right in saying MG haven't funded it either?

The funding to date is from the organisers and Zytek?
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According to a snippet in Autosport the MG DTM project could have no involvement from MG.....

As we know, the series organisers have funded the project to date, but MG will have to contribute to a marketing fund to appear as a manufacturer entry.
So if MG doesn't ante up any money, what does the car race as? Like V8 Star, looks like a MG, but not be referred to as a MG?? Just no "works" status? 'Cause if it's the latter, they still get their name mentioned?
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Rover Germany said they would pump some money in the project
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Don't actually need 'works' blessing to race - there was a Mustang (I think) which ran several years ago without any Ford support and the ABT Audi's were 'private' before Audi formally returned.

Local dealer/ importer could support the cars - its their money, not the factory's; years ago there were very professional Range Rover teams in the Paris-Dakar that had nothing to do with the factory but were fully supported by the French distributor (untill the arrival of the big works efforts upped the ante)
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Don't actually need 'works' blessing to race - there was a Mustang (I think) which ran several years ago without any Ford support and the ABT Audi's were 'private' before Audi formally returned.
Private entries are allowed, but the factory needs to give the green light to use their car. When the "new" DTM was launched in 2000 Zakspeed wanted and even builded a Volvo C70 DTM car. But Volvo (or Ford?) didn't give the green light so Zakspeed wasn't allowed to take part. The Mustang's were at the time of the "old" DTM and I don't know if there was such rule like in the current DTM.



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Local dealer/ importer could support the cars - its their money, not the factory's; years ago there were very professional Range Rover teams in the Paris-Dakar that had nothing to do with the factory but were fully supported by the French distributor (untill the arrival of the big works efforts upped the ante)
The very professional X-Raid team (leaded by Sven Quandt) enters 2 BMW X5 in Dakar but doesn't get factory support.

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Sven Quandt may not get factory support - and yes they are very professional, but unless I am mistaken the Quandt family is BMW's biggets shareholder.......
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Sven Quandt may not get factory support - and yes they are very professional, but unless I am mistaken the Quandt family is BMW's biggets shareholder.......
Yes, he's linked with BMW. Last year he was head of Mitsubhi motorsport. (so maybe my example wasn't a good one )
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Last year he was head of Mitsubhi motorsport. (so maybe my example wasn't a good one )
Ithought that was strange last year - to get a member of the BMW family to run your team while he continued to run his private team at the same time - odd
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