ELMS ELMS 2013 Discussion - Page 3

Tzyghan · 8 Dec 2012, 10:30 (Ref:3176477)

Years ago, in Eurosport there was a FIA GT full race, more than 3 hours of Maseratis, Ferraris, Saleens etc. And for me it's still better than three repeats of every single Snooker cups - heh, if only snooker...

lms · 12 Dec 2012, 09:47 (Ref:3177932)

+2 ferrari (ram racing)

http://www.dailysportscar.com/viewAr...B67420218B6FE5

MitchZ06 · 12 Dec 2012, 10:27 (Ref:3177942)

No rearview camera/screen?

The Badger · 12 Dec 2012, 10:36 (Ref:3177945)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lms

+2 ferrari (ram racing)

http://www.dailysportscar.com/viewAr...B67420218B6FE5

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Oh man , thats a simple yet effective livery , looks great in white .

Victor_RO · 12 Dec 2012, 12:01 (Ref:3177976)

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...cus-14810.html

Morand Racing to campaign an OAK/Morgan LMP2 in the ELMS next year, and possibly at Le Mans. Hopefully these announcements give a bit of momentum to the series.

**joeb** · 12 Dec 2012, 12:33 (Ref:3177991)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lms

+2 ferrari (ram racing)

http://www.dailysportscar.com/viewAr...B67420218B6FE5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...cus-14810.html

Morand Racing to campaign an OAK/Morgan LMP2 in the ELMS next year, and possibly at Le Mans. Hopefully these announcements give a bit of momentum to the series.

Two good announcements for the series. I hope this momentum builds through the year.

R4z3rw33n · 12 Dec 2012, 13:01 (Ref:3178002)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lms

+2 ferrari (ram racing)

http://www.dailysportscar.com/viewAr...B67420218B6FE5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...cus-14810.html

Morand Racing to campaign an OAK/Morgan LMP2 in the ELMS next year, and possibly at Le Mans. Hopefully these announcements give a bit of momentum to the series.

It's nice to see the regional series experiencing some growth again.
Here's hoping 'RAM' breaks the mould; seems there's little precedent for extended commitment from ME-backed efforts.

Quote:

Solid backing for the team comes from the Middle East and RAM Racing's patron wishes to remain firmly in the background to the point of anonymity, giving Shufflebottom complete autonomy in the running of the squad.

Juntos · 12 Dec 2012, 14:23 (Ref:3178031)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Morand Racing to campaign an OAK/Morgan LMP2 in the ELMS next year, and possibly at Le Mans. Hopefully these announcements give a bit of momentum to the series.

I wonder why Bruce chose OAK instead of Oreca. There's a weak link in every chain. And it's just a matter of time before this one snaps.

The Badger · 12 Dec 2012, 15:19 (Ref:3178038)

Im glad he did choose an OAK , too many Oreca's out there but , I would put my faith in an Oreca package before an OAK .

Canada ALMS fan · 12 Dec 2012, 16:23 (Ref:3178062)

I wonder if the RAM Ferraris are the ex-Luxury cars?
As for Morand choosing the OAK chassis, I heard some teams were complaining of the reliability of the Oreca last year. (Not that the OAK ummm Morgan was much better IMO)

Graham Goodwin · 12 Dec 2012, 17:40 (Ref:3178080)

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Originally Posted by Canada ALMS fan

I wonder if the RAM Ferraris are the ex-Luxury cars?
As for Morand choosing the OAK chassis, I heard some teams were complaining of the reliability of the Oreca last year. (Not that the OAK ummm Morgan was much better IMO)

The RAM cars are all new - albeit they will now have to be converted back to 2012 spec!

Canada ALMS fan · 12 Dec 2012, 17:49 (Ref:3178084)

Thanks Graham, any word if the Luxury cars have landed elsewhere for action next year? Will Michelotto supply 458's new in year old spec or do the teams do it after they acquire them and sell off the 2013 spec parts?

Coach Ep · 12 Dec 2012, 17:54 (Ref:3178085)

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Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

The RAM cars are all new - albeit they will now have to be converted back to 2012 spec!

So, they´ll be running in GTE-Am then?

Graham Goodwin · 12 Dec 2012, 17:59 (Ref:3178086)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

So, they´ll be running in GTE-Am then?

They'll have no option in ELMS!

Coach Ep · 12 Dec 2012, 18:07 (Ref:3178089)

Hmm, missed that one then. And don´t understand either, will there be no GTE-Pro category in ELMS then next year?

Graham Goodwin · 12 Dec 2012, 18:10 (Ref:3178091)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Hmm, missed that one then. And don´t understand either, will there be no GTE-Pro category in ELMS then next year?

Final confirmation yesterday I gather - Its a numbers game - only 4 GTE Pros would have confirmed - All Ferraris

Coach Ep · 12 Dec 2012, 18:14 (Ref:3178094)

Ok. Didn´t the entry window for ELMS just open - until mid January next year? How can one already conclude there won´t be enough cars in a category?

And didn´t the WEC have 4 GTE-Pro entries for the last, what 4 races or so last year...

Speed-King · 12 Dec 2012, 18:39 (Ref:3178106)

Quote:

European Le Mans Series Confirms No GTE Pro Class
Eight GTEs In Prospect For GTE Am

Headline on DSC.

Much better than what I would have expected - now if the LMP2 field stays somewhere close to where it was last year, this just might work out. Add a handfull of PCs and GT3s and it's actually quite decent.

And further proof that the whole GTE-Am idea is total rubbish...

Simmi · 12 Dec 2012, 18:40 (Ref:3178107)

As everyone else has said let's hope the momentum continues.

TheMightyM · 12 Dec 2012, 18:48 (Ref:3178110)

Well, four GTE-Pro would actually have been an improvement over last year. The ELMS field at Paul Ricard in 2012 (and it was all down hill from there):

3 GTE-Pro: JMB Racing, JWM Motorsport, and Kessel Racing each with a Ferrari 458 Italia

5 GTE-Am: Prospeed Competition (Porsche 997), IMSA Performance Matmut (Porsche 997), JMB Racing (Ferrari 458), Gulf Racing (Aston Martin Vantage), AF Course (Ferrari 458)

So, if there are 8 GTE-Am prospects for 2013, the total GTE field size would be the same as compared to the beginning of 2012.

Graham Goodwin · 12 Dec 2012, 18:50 (Ref:3178111)

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Originally Posted by TheMightyM

So, if there are 8 GTE-Am prospects for 2013, the total GTE field size would be the same as compared to the beginning of 2012.

But rather more importantly not the same as at the end of 2012!

Coach Ep · 12 Dec 2012, 20:06 (Ref:3178142)

Thx for clarification Graham.

Coach Ep · 12 Dec 2012, 20:09 (Ref:3178143)

Will this affect JMW´s decision (and switch to WEC or GT Open?) or are they expected to join the GTE (Am) category?

Graham Goodwin · 12 Dec 2012, 20:34 (Ref:3178151)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Will this affect JMW´s decision (and switch to WEC or GT Open?) or are they expected to join the GTE (Am) category?

JMW have not made a decision yet

Canada ALMS fan · 12 Dec 2012, 20:35 (Ref:3178152)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

Final confirmation yesterday I gather - Its a numbers game - only 4 GTE Pros would have confirmed - All Ferraris

Any of those trickle over to WEC now then?

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