ELMS ELMS Discussion - Page 3

Coach Ep · 8 Feb 2018, 13:39 (Ref:3799549)

"preview": http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/0...ntry-list.html

Deleted · 8 Feb 2018, 16:02 (Ref:3799602)

41x

17x LMP2*
18x LMP3
6x LMGTE-AM

* 7 Oreca, 6 Onroak, 4 Dallara, 0 Riley

Hopefully the micro GTE grid projects smaller than expected numbers for 24 hours AM list tomorrow as well, as originally you might've thought some of the WEC-rejected to end here after all (?)

Deleted · 8 Feb 2018, 16:26 (Ref:3799607)

http://europeanlemansseries.com/web/...ist-saison.pdf

Five Michelin-cars in LMP2, of which probably 3-4 will end up at LM, so there will be tire war at la Sarthe again

I guess the return of SMP Dallara is surprise so that's 3 teams already with mixed LMP1 + LMP2 campaign this year which we haven't seen for years, however I'm not sure they'll enter it for LM

gert · 8 Feb 2018, 16:34 (Ref:3799608)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiana

http://europeanlemansseries.com/web/...ist-saison.pdf

I guess the return of SMP Dallara is surprise so that's 3 teams already with mixed LMP1 + LMP2 campaign this year which we haven't seen for years, however I'm not sure they'll enter it for LM

According to Endurance-Info they have entered the LMP2 car as well.

http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/smp...ux-programmes/

airbusA346 · 8 Feb 2018, 16:36 (Ref:3799610)

Nice to see Ebimotors racing a Porsche.

Wonder if it's an old spec RSR or the '17 spec car for the unknown customer in Asia.

Deleted · 8 Feb 2018, 16:37 (Ref:3799612)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gert

According to Endurance-Info they have entered the LMP2 car as well.

http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/smp...ux-programmes/

It's quite interesting prospect for these teams at Sarthe, "plan B" in terms of overall honors if succeeding with LMP1 fails. Which, in the case of ART-SMP especially is quite smart (if they receive entry) given the AERs will almost certainly blow up

MaskedRacer · 8 Feb 2018, 17:05 (Ref:3799616)

Saw the entry list. Prototypes is very big right now and is certainly the IN thing. GT racing has probably lost a lot of teams to prototypes.

Does ELMS even need a GTE category? Or perhaps there should be a prototype series with LMP2 and LMP3 (include Le Mans cup ones). And a GT only series with GTE-Am and the GT3s from the Le Mans Cup. With a monster grid of 35 prototypes. Why have 6 GTE Am cars at the back?

**Bentley03** · 8 Feb 2018, 17:07 (Ref:3799618)

APR Rebellion Racing LMP2 entry under Portuguese flag with Adrian Newey's son and Thomas Laurent listed as drivers.

?

**Bentley03** · 8 Feb 2018, 17:11 (Ref:3799619)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bentley03

APR Rebellion Racing LMP2 entry under Portuguese flag with Adrian Newey's son and Thomas Laurent listed as drivers.

?

Ah...

DSC - '2016/17 Asian Le Mans Series Champions Algarve Pro Racing double up with a unique Ligier/ ORECA two car effort, the ORECA branded with Rebellion Racing'

Juntos · 8 Feb 2018, 17:19 (Ref:3799624)

Did Rebellion Racing move to Algarve? The weather is definitely better over there.

ATLFalconsFAN · 8 Feb 2018, 17:36 (Ref:3799630)

Is GTE in ELMS required to run on Dunlops?

airbusA346 · 8 Feb 2018, 18:28 (Ref:3799648)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATLFalconsFAN

Is GTE in ELMS required to run on Dunlops?

As far as I am aware, yes.

tux · 8 Feb 2018, 22:16 (Ref:3799706)

Here are you're 2018 champions. http://sportscar365.com/lemans/elms/...-dispensation/

**Bentley03** · 8 Feb 2018, 22:38 (Ref:3799714)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tux

Here are you're 2018 champions. http://sportscar365.com/lemans/elms/...-dispensation/

The justification explanation should make interesting reading. Oh dear

Damian Baldi · 9 Feb 2018, 00:55 (Ref:3799739)

There is a very nice mix of cars on the P2 grid. Let's see how the updated cars go. It will be very entertained to watch.

Deleted · 9 Feb 2018, 00:56 (Ref:3799741)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bentley03

The justification explanation should make interesting reading. Oh dear

Driver ratings and following inevitable irregularities are like cancer, but cancers usually are caused by something bad for you, in this case the absurdity that is pro-am concept.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Baldi

Let's see how the updated cars go.

Well yes the two updated cars in the field :/

It's kind of lame of Onroak and Dallara to have EVO kits for sprint aero as well when only the LM aero sucked against Oreca, but it is what it is

By the way is this the lowest amount of variety EVER for this series? These are the only chassis entered

LMP2 Oreca *
LMP2 Dallara *
LMP2 Onroak * + LMP3 Onroak **/***
LMP3 Norma **/***
LMGTE Ferrari ****
LMGTE Porsche ****

* w/ spec engine 1
** w/ spec engine 2
*** w/ spec tires 1
**** w/ spec tires 2

Jam3s · 9 Feb 2018, 02:37 (Ref:3799752)

The APR Rebellion lineup is one to watch. Bradley was one of the starts of the 2nd half of the elms season last year, Newey was impressive in AsLMS and Laurent needs no introduction.

Koenigsegg · 9 Feb 2018, 07:55 (Ref:3799789)

ACO should really do something to attract more GTE entries.

- Discount in entry fee?
- 3rd automatic Le Mans entry?

**bella** · 9 Feb 2018, 13:23 (Ref:3799870)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bentley03

The justification explanation should make interesting reading. Oh dear

can’t believe that. not-silvers are one thing but this is taking the mickey. i feel like this was a case of “if you don’t then we won’t be able to get a third driver in the seat and *sigh* we’ll have to take the g-drive branding to blancpain” or something similar.

unless someone can provide a solid arguement why rusinov has been classified wrongly?

Jam3s · 10 Feb 2018, 03:16 (Ref:3800144)

I think we'll see them receiving pit time penalties as a kind of driver BOP.

Mike Hedlund · 10 Feb 2018, 16:39 (Ref:3800314)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATLFalconsFAN

Is GTE in ELMS required to run on Dunlops?

Yes, that's correct. Astons will still have a big advantage as they did the development of the tire.... but maybe with the works team onto Michelin this year, they won't get as much help in going fast.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koenigsegg

ACO should really do something to attract more GTE entries.

- Discount in entry fee?
- 3rd automatic Le Mans entry?

IMO, it's mostly a by-product of having to race with LMP3 cars at the same time -- it doesn't make for a quality "gentlemen" racing experience. If they'd speed up the P3 cars on the straights it would be so much better, but I know that idea was shot down before last year -- they're worried about the engines not lasting until the homologated rebuild time if they crank them up.

Entry fees aren't the problem. Keep in mind, they're still racing GTE cars which are mind blowingly expensive to purchase/run and they can't run anywhere else except WEC or IMSA GTLM, which makes for a very small market.

-mike

MaskedRacer · 11 Feb 2018, 02:49 (Ref:3800398)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Hedlund

Yes, that's correct. Astons will still have a big advantage as they did the development of the tire.... but maybe with the works team onto Michelin this year, they won't get as much help in going fast.

IMO, it's mostly a by-product of having to race with LMP3 cars at the same time -- it doesn't make for a quality "gentlemen" racing experience. If they'd speed up the P3 cars on the straights it would be so much better, but I know that idea was shot down before last year -- they're worried about the engines not lasting until the homologated rebuild time if they crank them up.

Entry fees aren't the problem. Keep in mind, they're still racing GTE cars which are mind blowingly expensive to purchase/run and they can't run anywhere else except WEC or IMSA GTLM, which makes for a very small market.

-mike

I imagine LMP3 has made quite a dent into the GT racing market throughout the world. Not just in ELMS GTE-AM.

MaskedRacer · 11 Feb 2018, 02:50 (Ref:3800399)

I don't know much about the Ebimotors Porsche, anybody know what their livery might look like. Great that 911 RSR's will be all over the place this year. Best sounding engine in racing today. Maybe best one overall since the LMP1 Aston Martin.

Bcarr6 · 12 Feb 2018, 13:55 (Ref:3800719)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaskedRacer

I don't know much about the Ebimotors Porsche, anybody know what their livery might look like. Great that 911 RSR's will be all over the place this year. Best sounding engine in racing today. Maybe best one overall since the LMP1 Aston Martin.

Ebimotors have been running a Lamborghini GT3 in GT Open up until now

airbusA346 · 2 Mar 2018, 19:52 (Ref:3805302)

Proton line ups...

#77: Matteo Cairoli, Gianluca Roda & Giorgio Roda. (From Cairoli's Instagram)
#88: Dennis Olsen, TBA, TBA

Wonder what happened to Matt Campbell driving one of the cars.

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