JPM on Sato - Page 3

**Peter Mallett** · 14 Jun 2004, 10:10 (Ref:1003296)

No. Over exuberence again I'm afraid. He'd have scored points with some circumspection. (Not allowing for the blow up).

QuickSilver · 14 Jun 2004, 13:01 (Ref:1003546)

it'll go in the books as a dnf, but we all witnessed the same boneheaded play again ... coming up the inside of a hairpin way too deep without a prayer of making it stick.

he's just lucky he didn't take 2 cars out this time. admittedly he's fun to watch - i just wouldn't want him driving my cars.

sato needs to make a couple of these moves stick and stop overdriving the car.

Kicking-back · 14 Jun 2004, 13:06 (Ref:1003556)

Sato made plenty of moves stick in Bahrain.

He actually reminds me a lot of Schumacher's early days in F1.

I'm not suggesting he'll achieve as much as Michael, but he's certainly an entertaining and talented driver, who thoroughly deserves his place in F1.

shiny side up! · 14 Jun 2004, 13:28 (Ref:1003585)

I do enjoy watching Sato, I really do. But his level of maturity when it comes to racecraft is a bit disconcerting. Sure, he has made some moves stick, especially in Bahrain. But you don't need, nor is it wise, to stick your car in any available hole you think you see in traffic in an attempt to pass someone... as seen at the European and Canadian Grands Prix. I didn't follow Sato's career prior to F1, so I don't know what he was like in the lower formulae... but his enthusiasm and demeanor are wonderful, but he needs to learn to channel it effectively on the racetrack.

Oh... interesting read on PlanetF1 re: the team's reactions to the current Sato trends:

http://www.planet-f1.com/news/story_16045.shtml

Kicking-back · 14 Jun 2004, 13:31 (Ref:1003591)

That Planet F1 story whips things up a bit, really.

And on the point of the engine failures - Jenson may well suggest it's down to driving style - but he would say that, wouldn't he?

garcon · 14 Jun 2004, 13:34 (Ref:1003597)

I enjoy watching Sato, you can't not enjoy it can you?!

That said, I think (at least I hope) he's learning all the time - if he can curb the over-exuberance a little he could be a very successful driver.

QuickSilver · 14 Jun 2004, 13:43 (Ref:1003606)

Quote:

Sato made plenty of moves stick in Bahrain.

Selective memory. You managed to pick only his best race and to accurately gauge his abilities look at the rest:
Australia 9th
Malaysia blew up
Bahrain 5th
San Marino blew up
Spanish 5th
Monaco blew up
Nurburgring lost front wing crashing Rubins
Canada another failed passing maneuver blew up

his driving style is hard and i don't mean that in a complimentary way. "to finish 1st, first you have to finish". he's on 8 points while his (more experienced) teammate is on 44 in the same machinery.

Kicking-back · 14 Jun 2004, 13:45 (Ref:1003610)

Australia's been the only race Sato finished outside the points.

Elsewhere, he either scored or the engine let him down.

Talk about mechanical sympathy all you like, but it's up to the team to provide their driver with a car that goes the distance.

QuickSilver · 14 Jun 2004, 13:57 (Ref:1003626)

so if i hear you correctly, scoring 8 pts in 2 of 7 races is okay while your teammate has managed 44pts?

**Peter Mallett** · 14 Jun 2004, 14:00 (Ref:1003629)

Quote:

Originally posted by Kicking-back
That Planet F1 story whips things up a bit, really.

As with JV stories (and others) it depends on how you want to look at it.

I'm not surprised DR is a bit peeved. But he also says its another lesson learned.

Quote:

Originally posted by Kicking-back
And on the point of the engine failures - Jenson may well suggest it's down to driving style - but he would say that, wouldn't he?

To counter point this story read what Jenson said about Sato after qualifying - on this site:

http://www.formula1.com/timings/

shiny side up! · 14 Jun 2004, 14:02 (Ref:1003631)

F1 driving used to be ALL about driving as fast as you could whilst taking care of the machinery (be it engines, tires, brakes, whatever). It is only in recent years that the top constructors' cars have started to become very reliable... so while I agree that is the team's job to provide their driver a reliable and quick car, it must also be noted that it is a driver's job is, and always has been, to get whatever car the team gives him to the finish in the shortest possible amount of time.

f1manoz · 14 Jun 2004, 14:22 (Ref:1003655)

I still think Sato is one of the most exciting talents in F1 at the moment. He's fast and aggressive, and although that can be his downfall, you always know something is bound to happen with him on track.

He just has to cancel out those small, silly mistakes and he'll be fine.

Kicking-back · 14 Jun 2004, 14:52 (Ref:1003677)

Totally agree, f1manoz.

Sato will win a Grand Prix.

Sato san · 15 Jun 2004, 07:29 (Ref:1004330)

Quote:

Originally posted by f1manoz
I still think Sato is one of the most exciting talents in F1 at the moment. He's fast and aggressive, and although that can be his downfall, you always know something is bound to happen with him on track.

He just has to cancel out those small, silly mistakes and he'll be fine.

I think that sums it up prety well ....

also he made F3 very exciting back in 2001 as well even though he had the odd wild moment too..!

BIGMOUTH · 15 Jun 2004, 07:58 (Ref:1004353)

I don't like Sato at all!!

He's one of those drivers who people like because he is willing to take risks. But I think he's more just clumsey than willing to take risks...? He makes far too many mistakes and he just doesen't look quite up to the standard required in F1.

It's like in 1994 a lot of people said the same sort of things about Ukyo Katayama but he never improved and I think Sato is very very simular in that respect.:confused:

**Peter Mallett** · 15 Jun 2004, 08:07 (Ref:1004362)

Oops.

Run away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kicking-back · 15 Jun 2004, 09:17 (Ref:1004435)

Comparing Sato to Ukyo Katayama is hardly fair!

I see David Richards is now backing Sato, saying he's a great talent - and he'll work with him to harness that.

DR also reckons that once Sato gets everything right, "there will be no stopping him".

Sounds good to me.

QuickSilver · 15 Jun 2004, 12:42 (Ref:1004671)

Seems like BAR could be blaming Sato's blow ups on his driving style.

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It seems more than a co-incidence that, in the last three grands prix, the Japanese has exited with a smoking V10 but team-mate Jenson Button's is a-ok.

Certainly, Sato - 27 - is more aggressive than super-smooth JB.

''Actually, we don't understand [the failures], to be honest.''

BAR's team principal David Richards cautiously added that he doesn't 'think' Sato can be blamed. ''But we have got to look at it, and try to figure it out."

''[But] in the end it's a technical issue and there'll be a technical reason.''

Button, 24, reckons he has sat down with Takuma and their respective engineers and talked about possible causes for the blow-ups - including driving style.

''I think he was going to try something different,'' the Briton said.

Kicking-back · 15 Jun 2004, 12:46 (Ref:1004677)

Quote:

Originally posted by QuickSilver
Seems like BAR could be blaming Sato's blow ups on his driving style.
....
BAR's team principal David Richards cautiously added that he doesn't 'think' Sato can be blamed. ''But we have got to look at it, and try to figure it out."

You're not really supporting your own point there!

QuickSilver · 15 Jun 2004, 12:47 (Ref:1004680)

Seems like BAR could be blaming Sato's blow ups on his driving style.

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It seems more than a co-incidence that, in the last three grands prix, the Japanese has exited with a smoking V10 but team-mate Jenson Button's is a-ok.

Certainly, Sato - 27 - is more aggressive than super-smooth JB.

''Actually, we don't understand [the failures], to be honest.''

BAR's team principal David Richards cautiously added that he doesn't 'think' Sato can be blamed. ''But we have got to look at it, and try to figure it out."

''[But] in the end it's a technical issue and there'll be a technical reason.''

Button, 24, reckons he has sat down with Takuma and their respective engineers and talked about possible causes for the blow-ups - including driving style.

''I think he was going to try something different,'' the Briton said.

**Peter Mallett** · 15 Jun 2004, 12:50 (Ref:1004685)

I posted a link to the report in the Daily Telegraph which quotes Dave Richards on this subject. He seems much more definite in that article.

**Peter Mallett** · 15 Jun 2004, 13:03 (Ref:1004701)

Here's that link BTW.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ma...15/ixsport.html

QuickSilver · 15 Jun 2004, 14:36 (Ref:1004832)

Kicking, you may want to read the entire piece. I think it does support my point that Sato's driving style is harsh on the machinery.

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Button, 24, reckons he has sat down with Takuma and their respective engineers and talked about possible causes for the blow-ups - including driving style.

''I think he was going to try something different,'' the Briton said.

Kicking-back · 15 Jun 2004, 14:42 (Ref:1004842)

But it's inevitable Button will say it's down to driving - because that reflects him in a better light.

QuickSilver · 15 Jun 2004, 14:44 (Ref:1004845)

Kicking ... too true, good point.

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