[BTCC] BTCC 2017 - Rounds 28, 29, 30 - Brands Hatch GP

[GT6]

i was think more about me, not much shelter at brands and standing in the rain is not going to make the experience one to look forward to.

[luckn002]

Originally Posted by steve_r

I have not got the impression that the BMW's are particularly good in the wet this year?

Made me think of the problems at Rockingham qualifying last year... the BMWs don't seem to like the rain!

Definitely agree with Bill - hope it doesn't hand Sutton the win, and that it end ps up with a direct race last R30 last year

Should be a very good race with some different drivers in the top 10 who want the win!

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by BillWiskins

Advantage to Sutton for sure, but you'd have to be a fool to say it's all pretty much finished. With the grid the way it is, there are going to be a lot of people who reckon they're in with a shout of the win in race one and I don't see many of them being likely to hand Sutton a free pass if the situation arose - Goff has said as much and you can bet that Moffat, Morgan, Austin etc will be focusing on their own races. Weather likely to play a part as well.

I'm excited - we're going to have some very interesting races to enjoy no matter who comes out of it on top. The only thing that will dampen the fun a bit is if Turkington loses out due to that electrical fault - if they are both able to give it their best then they both deserve the title, so bring it on.

you forget a very important aspect

Sutton is at the front while Turks is right in the carnage zone of the midfield where he can easy fell victim (AGAIN) to an incident so it's pretty much finished

such an anti-climatic season finale hasn't been for years

and thanks to TOCA no FWD car is even in contention

[luckn002]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

you forget a very important aspect

Sutton is at the front while Turks is right in the carnage zone of the midfield where he can easy fell victim (AGAIN) to an incident so it's pretty much finished

such an anti-climatic season finale hasn't been for years

and thanks to TOCA no FWD car is even in contention

Then don't watch it and stop complaining - you're ruining it for the rest of us

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by luckn002

Then don't watch it and stop complaining - you're ruining it for the rest of us

I am not ruining something which is already ruined

and before anyone mentiones about Turks electrical troubles , Jordan who didn't have any or the ballast qualified even worse than Turks so this should tell you WSR simply hasn't the pace

[AdrianM]

Originally Posted by steve_r

I have not got the impression that the BMW's are particularly good in the wet this year?

They're not much good in the dry at Brands GP though either so the lottery of the wet might help them more.

[Madd_Dogg88]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

I am not ruining something which is already ruined

and before anyone mentiones about Turks electrical troubles , Jordan who didn't have any or the ballast qualified even worse than Turks so this should tell you WSR simply hasn't the pace

Oh go and crawl under a rock. No one wants to hear it anymore.

I for one am looking forward to a dramatic battle tomorrow - let's just hope it materialises!!

I'll also be there, so echo the hope for a dry day!

[skells22]

well, BTCC has posted an updated forecast and now its dry for sunday

[850Estate]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

such an anti-climatic season finale hasn't been for years

It's sport, not television drama.

I'm glad I didn't have the internet during the Supertouring days when messrs Winkelhock, Tarquini, Cleland, Biela, Menu, Rydell and Aiello were pretty much all home and dry by this stage. Can only imagine what you must've been like in in '94 with the Alfa's aero, or '96 with the 4WD Audi

[Matt K]

Oh will these all-time complainers stop? I'm sorry for you that you don't enjoy it but it is your problem. For me it still is going to be a great finale and hey, champion is the one who gets the most points. We've got two excellent drivers in contention, both in 'factory' cars, one of whom is a two time champion and a proven name in touring cars, while the other is one of the brightest stars of British touring cars. I really can't see a single reason to complain.

And 850Estate - great words. I can't imagine complaining back then when there was a guy who won the title way before the end of the season

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

such an anti-climatic season finale hasn't been for years

and thanks to TOCA no FWD car is even in contention

No - thanks to the regulations a mix of cars have contested the season and it just turns our that two (different) RWD cars are in contention this year.

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Perhaps with such an even contest driver ability has taken to the fore???

After all, Sutton and Turkington have very strong cases for being the best driver in the series right now - and few others have such claims.

[skells22]

looks like wet weather tyres for race 1 and rules state that if its wet for race 1 then the soft goes to race 2, it has now declared wet race

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

Perhaps with such an even contest driver ability has taken to the fore???

How dare someone suggest that the title will be decided on driving ability?!?!

[Londoner]

Seriously looking forward to this. Hoping that Turks can pull off title #3, but Sutton would be a worthy champion. May the best man win.

Track looks horrendously greasy.

[BillWiskins]

Hill, Plato, Butcher, Jordan on wets as they leave for formation lap... everyone else seems to think slicks are the (difficult but) correct option. This will be interesting!

[Akrapovic]

Goff, hero to zero

[Londoner]

Goff's gone from 1st to 30th to 13th in a little over 8 laps. This may be the drive of the season!

Also, Mat Jackson's gone from I think 18th on the grid(?) to 4th. Man, if only Motorbase could be consistently competitive again.

[porsche962fan]

Sutton 3rd , Turks 15th

it's over , 24 points gap

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Fascinating race. The top 3 just ran away from the rest. Completely agree with Harvey that Sutton didn't need to be so racy, as fun as it is to watch. Great recovery drives from many others, PMR getting both cars to fine finishes.

I had never really rated Moffat but given the conditions and his 2 wins, if he got more mature and consistent he could well become a handy driver. Certainly he's gone up in my estimation.

[Londoner]

I've never seen Turkington drive that badly in BTCC before. Title is Sutton's to lose, but there's still 44 points to play for.

[skells22]

race 2 is about to start

[HopAlong]

After lurking for many years I've decided to sign up to have my say. On the FWD vs RWD subject it has been really even, the Honda always seems to dominate in the early season an no one complains when they get pole with max weight. Its a shame that people cant accept a RWD winning on merit, it will always be down to an unfair advantage.

Lets be honest here, the Speedworks Toyota has been the fastest car this year.

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Never write off Colin Turkington! Sutton has always been able to outfox Turks in wheel-to-wheel racing this season, but when it matters, guess what?

[Akrapovic]

Turkington appears to have sat himself down and given himself a right good talking to.