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Old 23 Nov 2013, 04:19 (Ref:3335501)   #51
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Massive opportunity for Frosty and CL with JW now buried in the pack for race 1.
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 04:34 (Ref:3335503)   #52
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Massive opportunity for Frosty and CL with JW now buried in the pack for race 1.
Agreed,
However Jamie has often shown an ability to fightback from a poor qualifying, balanced of course by mid pack dramas and FPR pit stuff ups
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 05:13 (Ref:3335508)   #53
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Big shunt between #34 and #22.

Mr Courtney doesn't look well. Full credit to Mr Premat for pulling him out of the car.
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 05:14 (Ref:3335509)   #54
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Wow that was massive

cars seemed to take the impact

lowndes and frosty - stupid by both but more so by lowndes
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 05:28 (Ref:3335511)   #55
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Broke the cage in Courtney's car. Not good at all.
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 05:31 (Ref:3335512)   #56
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did Skaife ever drive for Holden or triple 8. It shows.

the natural take lowndes side
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 05:32 (Ref:3335513)   #57
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Broke the cage in Courtney's car. Not good at all.
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 05:34 (Ref:3335516)   #58
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did Skaife ever drive for Holden or triple 8. It shows.

the natural take lowndes side
Skaife said that the smile was off CL's face and that some are unhappy with the bump and run tactics going on.
Maybe i missed it, but what did Skaife say that gave you that conclusion ?
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 05:39 (Ref:3335517)   #59
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Skaife said that the smile was off CL's face and that some are unhappy with the bump and run tactics going on.
Maybe i missed it, but what did Skaife say that gave you that conclusion ?
he said a lot more than that.

Skaife and Craig were the master of the bump and run. Even this year Craig has used it Didnt seem to matter then

funny also that when the bump happend Craig was off the racing line
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 05:40 (Ref:3335518)   #60
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he said a lot more than that.

Skaife and Craig were the master of the bump and run. Even this year Craig has used it Didnt seem to matter then
That's what I asked you.... what did he say ?
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 05:46 (Ref:3335519)   #61
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That's what I asked you.... what did he say ?
will have to check the recording to tell you that

part two of the race on now, no time to check recording
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 05:50 (Ref:3335520)   #62
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Has race control forgotten how to make a decision?

Leaving everything until after the race is complete rubbish!!
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 05:52 (Ref:3335522)   #63
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Has race control forgotten how to make a decision?

Leaving everything until after the race is complete rubbish!!
What would your decision have been ?
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 05:56 (Ref:3335524)   #64
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Has race control forgotten how to make a decision?

Leaving everything until after the race is complete rubbish!!
Agreed. They pussyfoot around too much.

One would think they're taking into consideration the state of play in the championship at the final race, before handing out a penalty.
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 06:01 (Ref:3335526)   #65
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 06:03 (Ref:3335528)   #66
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He pretty much copped the second heaviest part of the car in that very vulnerable area of the driver's door.
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 06:05 (Ref:3335530)   #67
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What would your decision have been ?
From the armchair - Frosty in the wrong.

But that might be my Holden bias - hence why race control should make a decision for once.
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 06:07 (Ref:3335531)   #68
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Lots of tyre failures must be a concern.
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 06:08 (Ref:3335532)   #69
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From the armchair - Frosty in the wrong.

But that might be my Holden bias - hence why race control should make a decision for once.
Fair enough. I couldn't see a clear shot of how much impact there was from the so called Frosty bump and run.
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 06:11 (Ref:3335533)   #70
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lots of left side tyres
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 06:28 (Ref:3335534)   #71
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Well done GT.

Happy to see JC was OK, man that was a big hit & could have been a lot worse!

I must say i still think this half time break is a crock of **** and is one of the stupidest ideas they have ever come up with. Get rid of it.
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 06:44 (Ref:3335537)   #72
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Has race control forgotten how to make a decision?

Leaving everything until after the race is complete rubbish!!
how do you draw a conclusion on any of those incidents though?

None of them have clear footage.

I reckon there is nothing in any of the incidents,.although maybe with the Giz and Will but its not clear from what we have seen on TV which is why they have to wait and get the in car footage
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Well done GT.

Happy to see JC was OK, man that was a big hit & could have been a lot worse!

I must say i still think this half time break is a crock of **** and is one of the stupidest ideas they have ever come up with. Get rid of it.
its gone for next year

Im interested in why you dont like it though, from a spectator point of view its a great thing. Two starts and the guys get to freshen up there case which makes for better racing over the length of the race
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Lots of tyre failures must be a concern.
Its ok, the tyre manufacturer sponsors a team and the development series so the fingers shall stay firmly in the ears of anyone remotely responsible for their continued participation...
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 07:17 (Ref:3335546)   #75
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