[Official] Canadian Grand Prix 2024

[Beau2]

Russell really needs to improve his wheel to wheel racing. It's his big weakness and has been for several years.

Lewis shows him how its done to pass Piastri a lap later.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Congrats to Super Max and another good result for Lando Norris and McLaren.

[Richard C]

Changing conditions allowed for some great racing. I think there will be some nice highlight reels from this.

Richard

[E.B]

Originally Posted by Beau2

Russell really needs to improve his wheel to wheel racing. It's his big weakness and has been for several years.

Lewis shows him how its done to pass Piastri a lap later.

I thought George's late pass on Lewis was better than any move that Lewis made over the weekend. A true team leaders don't mess with me move.

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by E.B

I thought George's late pass on Lewis was better than any move that Lewis made over the weekend. A true team leaders don't mess with me move.

Agree - without wanting to kick Lewis, George really does appear to have the upper hand mentally this year, probably to be expected with Lewis' mental commitment probably a tiny bit less than in the past due to his Ferrari move.

Really enjoyed the race, some good action and liked that Oscar showed himself to be no easy beat with George's first attempt at passing him.

[Akrapovic]

Felt like Dannys jump start was harsh. Car rolled a couple of cm with the vibration of the engine. We've seen a lot worse than that not get penalised.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Felt like Dannys jump start was harsh. Car rolled a couple of cm with the vibration of the engine. We've seen a lot worse than that not get penalised.

Danny mentioned it was a clutch issue that caused the problem.....

[Greem]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Felt like Dannys jump start was harsh. Car rolled a couple of cm with the vibration of the engine. We've seen a lot worse than that not get penalised.

Aye, but the rule is that if the start sensor is triggered before lights out, it's a slam dunk. No appeals are permitted (I think).

I seem to recall the only time one was rescinded was when the sensor was proven to be faulty.

[steve_r]

I might be wrong, but I am not sure whether the 5 second penalty actually cost DR anything - he served it in the pits under the safety car and from the TV footage it looked like he was all alone when he came out of the pitlane.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by steve_r

I might be wrong, but I am not sure whether the 5 second penalty actually cost DR anything - he served it in the pits under the safety car and from the TV footage it looked like he was all alone when he came out of the pitlane.

Couple of spots. Probably nothing by the end the way it shook out.

[Sodemo]

I noticed that Norris’ car had a slightly different sound when it was passing the camera during the race, almost like it was a gearbox whine. Piastri’s car wasn’t making this sound.

Anyone else?

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by E.B

I thought George's late pass on Lewis was better than any move that Lewis made over the weekend. A true team leaders don't mess with me move.

It was decent, although Ham seemed well off it generally. George was probably determined though, and trying to make up for his errors which basically cost Merc the win, not to mention Toto's "encouraging" words on the radio which must have stung. These are opportunties to stake a claim to a real future team-leading role, and to let them go begging must be worrying.

Both Merc drivers had the car to win. Norris had the car to win. Piastri perhaps had the car to win. Verstappen didn't have the car to win but won fairly comfortably in the end. Pretty unusual all told.

[Beau2]

Originally Posted by E.B

I thought George's late pass on Lewis was better than any move that Lewis made over the weekend. A true team leaders don't mess with me move.

That was decent, but Russell's attempted pass on Piastri was rash and ill-judged. He was lucky to escape no serioys damage or a penalty. It also cost Russell any chance of getting 1st or 2nd. Russell made numerous mistakes in the race, all of which were when he was battling with other cars

Mercedes had a genuine chance at coming at least 2nd & 3th at this race. Russell was quick to win it.

[BertMk2]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

I noticed that Norris’ car had a slightly different sound when it was passing the camera during the race, almost like it was a gearbox whine. Piastri’s car wasn’t making this sound.

Anyone else?

I watched the highlights last night and agree that Norris' car sounded different to Piastri's - odd that the two cars sounded so different. Usually a car making a noticeably different noise would indicate an impending mechanical failure but Norris' car didn't seem to have any performance issues as a result of whatever it was.

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by BertMk2

I watched the highlights last night and agree that Norris' car sounded different to Piastri's - odd that the two cars sounded so different. Usually a car making a noticeably different noise would indicate an impending mechanical failure but Norris' car didn't seem to have any performance issues as a result of whatever it was.

I've found the whining noise more noticeable lately and am assuming it's the electric motor. (This doesn't explain why team mates cars sound different though).

[Greem]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

I noticed that Norris’ car had a slightly different sound when it was passing the camera during the race, almost like it was a gearbox whine. Piastri’s car wasn’t making this sound.

Anyone else?

Was Norris on the radio at the time?

(Just kidding Lando, your voice is a lot deeper than in your Ginetta Junior days!)

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by Greem

Was Norris on the radio at the time?

(Just kidding Lando, your voice is a lot deeper than in your Ginetta Junior days!)

Hard to believe he's roughly 14-15 yrs old in that video! He looks much younger.

Richard

[PanozDP01]

Originally Posted by Beau2

Russell really needs to improve his wheel to wheel racing. It's his big weakness and has been for several years.

Lewis shows him how its done to pass Piastri a lap later.

Nonsense. He's aggressive and made a solid pass on Hamilton.

Poll and podium but let's talk weaknesses. Mercedes really wasn't faster than the Red Bull or the Mclaren either

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by PanozDP01

Nonsense. He's aggressive and made a solid pass on Hamilton.

Poll and podium but let's talk weaknesses. Mercedes really wasn't faster than the Red Bull or the Mclaren either

Canada was his first pole and podium of the season. His best overall result prior to this was is Bahrain, where he qualified 3rd and finished 5th.

[Beau2]

Originally Posted by PanozDP01

Nonsense. He's aggressive and made a solid pass on Hamilton.

Poll and podium but let's talk weaknesses. Mercedes really wasn't faster than the Red Bull or the Mclaren either

Completely ignoring his unnecessary contact with Piastri 5 laps earlier and his various excursions across the grass when under pressure. That is what my post was referring to, not a decent move on his team mate, who of course gave him plenty of room.

And yes, the Mercedes was arguably faster than both. Without mistakes from both drivers then they would have been right up there. Russell really should have been at least 2nd. There were weaknesses and sadly they came from the drivers rather than the car.

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by Beau2

Completely ignoring his unnecessary contact with Piastri 5 laps earlier and his various excursions across the grass when under pressure. That is what my post was referring to, not a decent move on his team mate, who of course gave him plenty of room.

And yes, the Mercedes was arguably faster than both. Without mistakes from both drivers then they would have been right up there. Russell really should have been at least 2nd. There were weaknesses and sadly they came from the drivers rather than the car.

I can 100% assure that is was hardly unnoticed in the team. Not exactly the first time either.

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by Beau2

Completely ignoring his unnecessary contact with Piastri 5 laps earlier and his various excursions across the grass when under pressure. That is what my post was referring to, not a decent move on his team mate, who of course gave him plenty of room.

And yes, the Mercedes was arguably faster than both. Without mistakes from both drivers then they would have been right up there. Russell really should have been at least 2nd. There were weaknesses and sadly they came from the drivers rather than the car.

Better to try very hard with the odd error now, than when he is in a truly title contending car again, no?

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by chunterer

Better to try very hard with the odd error now, than when he is in a truly title contending car again, no?

Odd error? It’s continual and consistent. That’s the problem.

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by chunterer

Better to try very hard with the odd error now, than when he is in a truly title contending car again, no?

Maybe Russell’s biggest weakness is in battle, but I remember another British driver Damon Hill having that problem. And he still won many races and a title

[Skam85]

Yep, Russell goes to water when the pressure is on. Happened plenty of times now.