2017 Australian GT Championship

[bludvl_x19]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Pecky do you realise Formula 3 has averaged 6 cars for the last 2 - 3 seasons and has now been dissolved into Formula A and it has been voted the 4th most popular category in Australia?

Funnier than that from my point of view is that the prize for winning Formula A (ranked 4th) is a funded drive in Kumho V8s (ranked 14th).

[mayhem]

Maybe the speedcafe results can be related back to the Touring Car Masters facebook page promoting the poll with a direct link for their 15,000 followers whereas the Australian GT page missed the boat and didn't mention it to their 53,000 followers? Who knows, but its a pretty unscientific poll.

I'd say Mr Quinn is happy he owns/manages two out of the top 3 categories in the poll without either category mentioning the poll on their facebook page?

[one five five]

Originally Posted by mayhem

Maybe the speedcafe results can be related back to the Touring Car Masters facebook page promoting the poll with a direct link for their 15,000 followers whereas the Australian GT page missed the boat and didn't mention it to their 53,000 followers? Who knows, but its a pretty unscientific poll.

I'd say Mr Quinn is happy he owns/manages two out of the top 3 categories in the poll without either category mentioning the poll on their facebook page?

Surely the most worrying thing about the poll is the fact that the winning category features old cars, the newest in the field is from 1977.....

[mayhem]

Tugs at the heart strings of motorsport fans, I think its a good outcome for a good category, although Touring Car Masters is actually far removed from it's Appendix J ancestry these days. I don't think there's anything to be concerned about for any category after a limited poll on a V8-centric website. It's cheap fill material over the off-season for a motor racing website more than any kind of scientific result on the state of various motorsport series in the country.

[D.R.T.]

Australian GT Summer Grill episode.
http://www.speedcafe.com/2017/01/07/...australian-gt/

Some good insight from Cameron McConville regarding the competitors and his involvement through Zagame Motorsport.

Surprising is Tim Hodges performance and his apparent negative tone towards to the championship opting to run their own events in 2017 & beyond. I am not sure of his actual motorsport knowledge or interest however he showed quite a narrow and uneducated view here.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Australian GT Summer Grill episode.
http://www.speedcafe.com/2017/01/07/...australian-gt/

Some good insight from Cameron McConville regarding the competitors and his involvement through Zagame Motorsport.

Surprising is Tim Hodges performance and his apparent negative tone towards to the championship opting to run their own events in 2017 & beyond. I am not sure of his actual motorsport knowledge or interest however he showed quite a narrow and uneducated view here.

Seemed his opinion was the same as half the field. maybe its not him that has a narrow view, just different

Was interested in comments that teams would do the enduro race and not the sprint race when they were on the same weekend. clearly the highlands round showed the sprint race wasnt worth the risk

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Seemed his opinion was the same as half the field. maybe its not him that has a narrow view, just different

I say narrow in that, he clearly didn't display any knowledge of any racing in Australia outside of what occurs at V8SC events.

Highlighted by his comment, "Supercar fans (strange comment in itself) if you want to catch the GTs you will need to go to Clipsal or the Grand Prix because thats the only time you can see them". As opposed to suggesting race fans could attend the Shannons Nationals or AGT stand alone events? Maybe.

Mr Hodges didn't appear to even fathom the thought that the move to Shannons bill could work for Australian GT, even despite McConvilles feedback regarding the SMP experience in 2016. Asking, "how long would the divide continue".

[mayhem]

Its a good point: Supercar fans apparently are incapable of broadening their motorsport horizons outside of Supercar fixtures if you believe Tim Hodges.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

I say narrow in that, he clearly didn't display any knowledge of any racing in Australia outside of what occurs at V8SC events.

Highlighted by his comment, "Supercar fans (strange comment in itself) if you want to catch the GTs you will need to go to Clipsal or the Grand Prix because thats the only time you can see them". As opposed to suggesting race fans could attend the Shannons Nationals or AGT stand alone events? Maybe.

Mr Hodges didn't appear to even fathom the thought that the move to Shannons bill could work for Australian GT, even despite McConvilles feedback regarding the SMP experience in 2016. Asking, "how long would the divide continue".

firstly they have not moved to shannons bill, some rounds have, most are not on the shannons bill (outside of the trophy series)

plenty of the team owners agree with Mr Hodges, dont forget that.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by peckstar

fplenty of the team owners agree with Mr Hodges, dont forget that.

Who are the plenty of team owners? (Outside of Mr Webb and Mr Burgess)

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

firstly they have not moved to shannons bill, some rounds have, most are not on the shannons bill (outside of the trophy series)

13 Australian GT rounds in 2017 across the 3 streams (Sprint, Endurance and Trophy)

8 on Shannons Nationals bill
3 on Australian GT bill
1 on Formula 1 bill
1 on Clipsal 500 bill

And as requested by Adrian Burgess - only 1 event sees sprint and endurance races on the same weekend - being at Highlands.

Originally Posted by one five five

Who are the plenty of team owners? (Outside of Mr Webb and Mr Burgess)

To be fair as well - Webb was hardly up in arms about it, he seemed fairly content with the move.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by one five five

Who are the plenty of team owners? (Outside of Mr Webb and Mr Burgess)

Ask Cam Mcconville, he was the one who said it, as did Mr Webb

Im just quoting them,

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

13 Australian GT rounds in 2017 across the 3 streams (Sprint, Endurance and Trophy)

8 on Shannons Nationals bill
3 on Australian GT bill
1 on Formula 1 bill
1 on Clipsal 500 bill

As i said, they havent moved to the Shannons bill, Was 7 last year.

Take out the Trophy, (mostly Marc cars and not Gt3) as i mentioned, and its only 3 out of the 9 main game events are on the shannons bill

what they have done is moved away from v8 events

[racer69]

I don't understand how or why this is even mentioned as an issue? Surely more standalone race meetings is only a good thing for us fans?

I also don't understand why the host kept calling it a "divide"? This isn't the Super Touring/V8Supercar war....

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by racer69

I don't understand how or why this is even mentioned as an issue? Surely more standalone race meetings is only a good thing for us fans?

In what way?

I notice you live in sydney, what way will two stand alone events with currently no tv coverage in NZ benefit you?

In no way is this about the fans. they are hardly even considered

[racer69]

Originally Posted by peckstar

In what way?

I notice you live in sydney, what way will two stand alone events with currently no tv coverage in NZ benefit you?

In no way is this about the fans. they are hardly even considered

Speedcafe is live streaming the standalone events at Symmons Plains, Hampton Downs & Highlands, so that benefits fans. If it works, this may lead to more standalone events in the future. There was live TV coverage of the Hampton Downs race last year, perhaps that will lead to both NZ events this year?

More racing on non-Supercar weekends can't be considered a bad thing for fans who want to watch motor racing.

[D.R.T.]

Agreed Racer. Australian GT is more accessible to fans in 2017 than ever before via attending race meetings, online streaming and television.

Not sure what there is to complain about!

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by racer69

Speedcafe is live streaming the standalone events at Symmons Plains, Hampton Downs & Highlands, so that benefits fans. If it works, this may lead to more standalone events in the future. There was live TV coverage of the Hampton Downs race last year, perhaps that will lead to both NZ events this year?

More racing on non-Supercar weekends can't be considered a bad thing for fans who want to watch motor racing.

Well if you are happy with live stream, enjoy, most fans are not. Less fans will watch Gt3 in 2017 than 2016 both live and on TV. That is a given

there is no supercar racing on every weekend already, no change there, just adding another event to the mix (in tasmania)

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Well if you are happy with live stream, enjoy, most fans are not. Less fans will watch Gt3 in 2017 than 2016 both live and on TV. That is a given

The times are changing Pecky - each day more consumers and sports are turning to streaming.

A great example of that is Red Bull TV and the WRC in 2017.

Speedweek will also broadcast post produced coverage of Australian GT - so both bases have been covered which is great news for motorsport fans.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

The times are changing Pecky - each day more consumers and sports are turning to streaming.

A great example of that is Red Bull TV and the WRC in 2017.

Speedweek will also broadcast post produced coverage of Australian GT - so both bases have been covered which is great news for motorsport fans.

oh yeah for sure, up 50% for the year , which leaves it at less than 10% of the tv equivlent, plus less sponsors to pay for the coverage, thus less cameras and less quality viewing.

I dont think you can clain something as a good example when it hasnt started.

Times are changing with Pay TV as well, get on Board and stop being so negative about it

[mayhem]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Times are changing with Pay TV as well, get on Board and stop being so negative about it

I don't understand this? Who mentioned PayTV? No one in this thread, and no one from AusGT from what I can read, what relevance does it have to this conversation?

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by mayhem

I don't understand this? Who mentioned PayTV? No one in this thread, and no one from AusGT from what I can read, what relevance does it have to this conversation?

sure has been mentioned in this thread. will be again.

however my point was to DRT who has been very negative about the changing media land scape, but suddenly, when it suited him, is very fond of the changing media landscape

[one five five]

Originally Posted by peckstar

however my point was to DRT who has been very negative about the changing media land scape, but suddenly, when it suited him, is very fond of the changing media landscape

A little bit like how you were very negative on a certain 12hr race for years until a promoter you are very fond of took over....

[mayhem]

Originally Posted by one five five

A little bit like how you were very negative on a certain 12hr race for years until a promoter you are very fond of took over....

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by one five five

A little bit like how you were very negative on a certain 12hr race for years until a promoter you are very fond of took over....

nice trolling, stick to the topic at least.

to quote mayhem who thinks your funny

I don't understand this? Who mentioned "12 hour or a certain promoter" No one in this thread, and no one from AusGT from what I can read, what relevance does it have to this conversation?

Not that hard, stick to the topic, no need for discussing of peckstar,