LMS 2011 Discussion - Page 3

**Bentley03** · 1 Nov 2010, 18:41 (Ref:2783616)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

I still think Marc VDS are just posturing. Autosport last week said basically the same thing as the article Bentley03 quoted, in that they are 'evaluating other options'.

I'd love to see them run the LMS and Le Mans. But I expect to see them back in GT1 next year. We'll watch this space. It's not exactly hard for them to hold meetings with Matech on a regular basis in the GT1 paddock.

Why put the cars up for sale? That, to me, appears to be a little more than just posturing. Shows something closer to intent, in my opinion.

**joeb** · 1 Nov 2010, 20:05 (Ref:2783674)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

Yep.........

(courtesy of lemans.org)

ah yes, I almost forgot about the pro/am differentiation! But could the new Ford be in any class other than Pro since it won't be 1 year old?

Simmi · 1 Nov 2010, 20:10 (Ref:2783682)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

Why put the cars up for sale? That, to me, appears to be a little more than just posturing. Shows something closer to intent, in my opinion.

Yeah I suppose so. Maybe VDS are trying to gauge interest but without burning the GT1 bridge and categorically saying they will leave. It was quite a nice looking advert too! I hope they do take their business to the LMS.

Simmi · 4 Nov 2010, 10:01 (Ref:2784813)

Autosport mag today has some more news about the Beechdean Mansell team, positive in the fact that they will continue next year according to Andrew Howard.

Options include continuing in LMP1 with the Zytek if it isn't sold, OR moving to the GT ranks is a possibility they are looking at. Apparently it depends on budget as to whether Greg and Leo will be able to drive! Looks like Andrew Howard wants to get in on the driving action himself this year which is interesting. He has raced in British GT before.

As for Nigel. My personal opinion is that he is done and I have a feeling he wont drive again. At least not an LMP1. That's just my gut feeling. Either way things are definitely up in the air at the team.

NaBUru38 · 6 Nov 2010, 12:52 (Ref:2785769)

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Originally Posted by Asa

2011 ILMC calendar.

12 Hours of Sebring (USA), March 19th
Le Mans test day (FRA), April 24th
Spa-Francorchamps (BEL), May 8th
24 Heures du Mans (FRA), June 11th - 12th
TBA, Europe, July
Silverstone (UK), Sept 11th
TBA, Overseas, October
China, November

With four European races in the ILMC, could the LMS be in danger?

Simmi · 6 Nov 2010, 14:10 (Ref:2785809)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

With four European races in the ILMC, could the LMS be in danger?

In danger of what? Having much better fields at some of its rounds.

MJ_N_09 · 7 Nov 2010, 04:41 (Ref:2786141)

Looks like Larbre went the Corvette route, becoming the first customer team in Europe.

The Badger · 7 Nov 2010, 09:19 (Ref:2786253)

And Hope Polevision will run an Oreca 01 Hybrid .

Does that Hybrid refer to the engine , or that the chassis is grandfathered ?
Great to see that car back on the grids .

Corvette to Larbre ..... brilliant news . Great that were getting a C6GT2 in the LMS , and hopefully see Larbre return to the top of their class after so long .

Félix · 7 Nov 2010, 10:59 (Ref:2786300)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

And Hope Polevision will run an Oreca 01 Hybrid .

Does that Hybrid refer to the engine , or that the chassis is grandfathered ?
Great to see that car back on the grids.

It's a Oreca 01 so the 2009/LM2010 LMP1, with a Lehmann 2 liter turbo I4 and a Flybrid hybrid system connected to an XTrac gearbox.

CTD · 7 Nov 2010, 13:09 (Ref:2786341)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

And Hope Polevision will run an Oreca 01 Hybrid .

Does that Hybrid refer to the engine , or that the chassis is grandfathered ?
Great to see that car back on the grids .

Corvette to Larbre ..... brilliant news . Great that were getting a C6GT2 in the LMS , and hopefully see Larbre return to the top of their class after so long .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Félix

It's a Oreca 01 so the 2009/LM2010 LMP1, with a Lehmann 2 liter turbo I4 and a Flybrid hybrid system connected to an XTrac gearbox.

We wont see Hybrid Chassis, as the new regulations only mandate that brand new chassis are modified with the fin.

MJ_N_09 · 7 Nov 2010, 15:46 (Ref:2786410)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

And Hope Polevision will run an Oreca 01 Hybrid .

Does that Hybrid refer to the engine , or that the chassis is grandfathered ?
Great to see that car back on the grids .

Corvette to Larbre ..... brilliant news . Great that were getting a C6GT2 in the LMS , and hopefully see Larbre return to the top of their class after so long .

Technically, they were already there this year

but it is great in all seriousness.

NaBUru38 · 8 Nov 2010, 13:37 (Ref:2787026)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

In danger of what? Having much better fields at some of its rounds.

I mean that some teams might chose to switch to the ILMC.

Fogelhund · 8 Nov 2010, 15:27 (Ref:2787078)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Corvette to Larbre ..... brilliant news . Great that were getting a C6GT2 in the LMS , and hopefully see Larbre return to the top of their class after so long .

None of the articles I have read suggest that Larbre are competing in the LMS at all. Just that they are competing in ILMC. So sure, you'll get a bump in the combined LMS/IMLC events, but it does not appear that you can expect them at the non-ILMC events.

http://www.planetlemans.com/2010/11/...-in-2011-ilmc/

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...ette-for-2011/

The359 · 9 Nov 2010, 05:47 (Ref:2787468)

From what I read, if Larbre can get funding for a second car for the full season, it will be entered in LMS.

TWK · 9 Nov 2010, 19:59 (Ref:2787733)

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Originally Posted by The359

From what I read, if Larbre can get funding for a second car for the full season, it will be entered in LMS.

That's a pretty big "IF."
"If wishes were horses, beggars would ride."

The359 · 10 Nov 2010, 08:06 (Ref:2787932)

Yes, thank you, I can see the if there. I was responding to Fogelhund's claim that they made no statement about the LMS.

Speed-King · 10 Nov 2010, 12:54 (Ref:2788041)

AF Corse with a Lola-Judd/BMW in LMP2... drivers will be Mat�*as Russo and Luis Perez Companc.

Kind of underwhelming, especially since it's only an LMS-campaign and not for ILMC.

What's also a bit curious, is that the engine is only referred to as a Judd... wouldn't it make more sense from a marketing point of view to call it a BMW? Or is there a reason why they can't?

The359 · 10 Nov 2010, 20:19 (Ref:2788242)

No mention on whether or not it will be a Lola Coupe or open cockpit.

CTD · 10 Nov 2010, 20:31 (Ref:2788245)

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Originally Posted by The359

No mention on whether or not it will be a Lola Coupe or open cockpit.

Isn't the Coupe the Lmp1?

cmk · 10 Nov 2010, 20:44 (Ref:2788249)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

What's also a bit curious, is that the engine is only referred to as a Judd... wouldn't it make more sense from a marketing point of view to call it a BMW? Or is there a reason why they can't?

Whose marketing point of view? Since it's based on a stock BMW block but is not a BMW works project (or even works-blessed as far as I know) and all the tuning is done by Judd, then it seems to suit Judd's marketing purposes just fine.

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Originally Posted by CTD

Isn't the Coupe the Lmp1?

There is a 2011 LMP2 coupe as well.

Victor_RO · 10 Nov 2010, 20:44 (Ref:2788250)

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Originally Posted by CTD

Isn't the Coupe the Lmp1?

Not necessarily, Lola are offering both open (B11/40) and closed LMP2 (B11/80) cars for next year. The closed LMP1 car should be called the B11/60, I guess.

Speed-King · 10 Nov 2010, 21:39 (Ref:2788269)

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Originally Posted by cmk

Whose marketing point of view? Since it's based on a stock BMW block but is not a BMW works project (or even works-blessed as far as I know) and all the tuning is done by Judd, then it seems to suit Judd's marketing purposes just fine.

Yeah, but if I'm a team and I'm trying to convince sponsors, they'll all know what a BMW is and if they want to be associated with that crowd, whereas Judd means nothing to them.

cmk · 10 Nov 2010, 21:40 (Ref:2788271)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

Yeah, but if I'm a team and I'm trying to convince sponsors, they'll all know what a BMW is and if they want to be associated with the crowd, whereas Judd means nothing to them.

Perhaps BMW is not so OK with that when they don't have in-house control? Given the number of Mader-BMWs that have been running around for the last couple of decades I guess that doesn't seem so plausible, but at the same time I could understand their reticence.

In this case, of course, the funding comes with Companc anyway.

The Badger · 10 Nov 2010, 22:34 (Ref:2788299)

Disapointed its not the rumoured Ferrari power we had been hoping for , and gutted its another Lola too !!!

Simmi · 10 Nov 2010, 22:49 (Ref:2788312)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Disapointed its not the rumoured Ferrari power we had been hoping for , and gutted its another Lola too !!!

Yes to the Ferrari part. Not sure how anyone can be gutted about another prototype entrant mind.

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