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Most spectators are likely to be in the grandstands at Club and along the Pit Straight. The only infield access is via the vehicle bridge over Hanger Straight, which is the complete opposite side of the track. It's not a bad circuit but hopelessly impractical |
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Silverstone was only changed for the benefit if F1, with no thought given to anything else. The newer section of track and the re-profiled Club corner are awful. The BTCC should stick to the national layout, as it produces great racing.
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Reading comments from an interview with JP he notes it is clear they need to test. So absolutely someone (Scott?) put a stop to the planned run out at Pembrey.
He is saying lots of teamy bondy nicey words but I am going to speculate that he has had enough and is considering his options. One of which could be a Eurotech Honda? Jeff is very unlikely to be back in a race car for sometime... |
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If he could convince Eurotech to change car, then maybe. I think it's such a long shot though. I would imagine there is more chance of him running the Maximum Ford than him being seen as part of the Honda family. |
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14 Jun 2017, 07:47 (Ref:3741104) | #56 | ||
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He seems to have moulded BMR around himself, more so that he was able to do at 888, plus he brought the deal to Warren, If he leaves then I can't see Subaru and Adrian Flux hanging around. Presumably the UK will be getting the new Impreza at some point (most likely in hatch form again) surely that would be a better base for a touring car and dare I say it with the Swindon lump and FWD (though truth be told the Swindon engine hasn't looked as fast this year). I imagine part of Subaru joining the BTCC would have been based on showcasing their boxer engine (though ironically it's been the weakest link in the package) and I can't imagine they'd support a package without it. Fact is for Jason, the RWD unicorn he was looking for hasn't worked, both Ash and Colin have proven it's a quick car at the hands of a RWD specialist, but for others it's average at best. His best bet would be a good manufacturer supported FWD package (the MG deal was pretty poor in terms of support and funding). I know the Kia thing gets bandied round each year, but the Korean manufacturers are really up and coming in the UK and that’s where he needs to focus. A Works Kia C'eed or Hyundai i30 would be perfect for him. |
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Last I heard was they weren't interested in the cost. They were interested last year, but were put off by the amounts of money required to run a team.
Source: A driver pal who has already brought one manufacturer to the championship... |
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14 Jun 2017, 12:03 (Ref:3741159) | #59 | |
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What's a budget for a front to midfield BTCC now days?
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14 Jun 2017, 12:22 (Ref:3741170) | #60 | |
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Couldn't put a figure on it, but he said to me not long ago, we are going back down the super touring route with the amount of money being asked for a drive by some teams and the amount of money going into the sport. He said the only difference is the money comes from sponsorship and drivers pockets and not the manufacturers
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14 Jun 2017, 12:33 (Ref:3741173) | #61 | ||
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Subaru is following in Mitsubishi's footsteps and alienating their long term fan base by stepping away from traditional cars in favour of C and S UV's. Locally, various car dealerships have tried and failed with both brands ove rthe years. The latest attempt, a long time Mazda dealer (who ironically had a short stab at also selling Mitsubishis) have just removed their Subaru branding from the showroom after only a short period (6-12 months if that). It seems the brands just don't sell well in York which is odd as it's still a big farming area but I guess a few L200s or Legacy Outbacks for the wives don't keep a dealership alive! When The Subaru BTCC entry was announced I briefly looked at the Levorg online, whilst it's a handsome car, with the perks of AWD, the CVT only drivetrain and lack of choice (I mean seriously, only 3 colours in 2017!) at a relatively high price compared to the competition means it's a none starter for most people. And if the reviews are anything to go by, they're not even that good nor have the bulletproof reliabilty of Subarus of old! |
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He didn't mean literally in cost. He was talking about it in relative terms. Whereas the manufacturers would happily spend £10m, a driver can't afford that, but there are 1 or 2 paying near enough 7 figure sums to be on the grid. Some super touring drives (if you had to pay for it) were a lot less than that!
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14 Jun 2017, 14:42 (Ref:3741230) | #64 | |
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I used to agree, but Plato has been missing pretty much all year, and it turns out that the championship hasn't missed him in the slightest imo. He's hardly had a mention, he's not had the chance to create controversy with any antics, and I for one have hardly noticed.
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As I've admitted before, I don't like the guy, so I understand that my opinions may be more than a little one-sided but I noticed at the weekend, now that he had moved further up the grid he had a couple of interviews and although he's supposed to be a TV Professional (due to his 5th gear appearances) to me he comes across as ignorant. He grunts & pauses incessantly during his interviews which I feel he does on purpose to give him more air time than someone who would just answer the question...
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That's because when he doesn't pause to formulate a reply, he makes an absolute arse of it. Remember when the Hondas drove into each other and Plato got a win? Louise went to interview him, expecting a laughing happy Jason, and she got a childish brat throwing the ultimate strop. Because he didn't have time to stop and come up with a reply.
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re. Plato's pauses when interviewed.
I feel it is because he needs the thinking space to keep a consistent argument. This season (as with some in the past) his explanation of the car's brilliance compared to his results has deviated quite a bit at times. He has included the CoG, boost, damage and aero as reasons for underperforming so far, and at times this has contradicted Warren Scott's observations. He knows that if he speaks too quickly, without considering his argument, he will contradict himself at some point. I'm sure there are occasions, but I struggle to recall a recent interview since Brands qualy where he has done little other than place the blame for bad results in someone else's court. |
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14 Jun 2017, 22:03 (Ref:3741445) | #70 | ||
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I heard that the mild stutter he sometimes has was fabricated in conjunction with his sponsors as well, in order to get him and them more screen-time.
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He either forgot how to drive overnight or there's something wrong with the car. As for his interview style it might (or might not be ) be a marketing thing as, after all, he's the only driver who removes his HANS device before getting out of the car so it doesn't obscure the sponsors logos. He puts a lot of thought into that sort of thing which is why he's been so successful at making a very nice living in touring cars and staying on the grid. Regardless of what people might think about his driving I have massive admiration for him for achieving that. |
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I cannot believe there is so much debate about whether the guy has a stutter or not...
What people forget is he is being interviewed live, unscripted, with whatever emotion is going through. As I said, it is live, unlike Fifth Gear which he can do as many takes as he needs... |
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Afaik he has a stutter or stammer, which is easy to pick up on. But yeah it is hard to notice him when he's not at the front
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All before the accident. It's true that the accident may be a factor in his results, but my point was that he's also blamed boost, CoG, Aero, slower cars and ride height for his performances too along the way. |
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