FBMW Europe - has it lost its way? - Page 3

META4 · 9 Sep 2008, 21:56 (Ref:2286079)

He is down to 13Th place, with only 65 points

Lam Pak · 10 Sep 2008, 03:49 (Ref:2286206)

thanks. the way you say makes me feel how proud you are to slash the asian drivers and championships.

META4 · 10 Sep 2008, 09:25 (Ref:2286322)

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Originally Posted by Lam Pak

thanks. the way you say makes me feel how proud you are to slash the asian drivers and championships.

Lam Pak you should consult urgently a psychiatrist...

**gomick** · 10 Sep 2008, 11:30 (Ref:2286402)

you both should keep your issues in the asian formula renault thread

- jazeman is in his 1st year in europe, he is learning....

Adri_tifosi · 10 Sep 2008, 19:25 (Ref:2286692)

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Originally Posted by META4

Lam Pak you should consult urgently a psychiatrist...

Agree 100 %

Albeckinho · 10 Sep 2008, 19:28 (Ref:2286695)

There's been some rumours that one Finnish driver is currently seeking a seat in FBMW Europe.

So now FBMW Europe has found it's way

Lam Pak · 11 Sep 2008, 12:24 (Ref:2287135)

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Originally Posted by gomick

yjazeman is in his 1st year in europe, he is learning....

that is true. bugzy a driver like him is unfair. jazeman has much to do to malaysia and asia. let him alone. if he was in the right team...

Kieran20 · 12 Sep 2008, 08:22 (Ref:2287838)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lam Pak

that is true. bugzy a driver like him is unfair. jazeman has much to do to malaysia and asia. let him alone. if he was in the right team...

no one said anything against him!

**gomick** · 13 Sep 2008, 23:02 (Ref:2289333)

Tiago Geronimi won race 1 - Esteban Gutierrez won the title

Race 1 results...

1. Tiago Geronimi
2. Carlos Huertas
3. Marco Wittmann
4. Esteban Gutierrez

15. Jazeman Jaafar

Points after 15 of 16...

1. Esteban Gutierrez - 333
2. Marco Wittmann - 303
3. Adrien Tambay - 260
4. Daniel Juncadella - 236
5. Tiago Geronimi - 156

14. Jazeman Jaafar - 67

**gomick** · 15 Sep 2008, 09:32 (Ref:2290685)

Tiago Geronimi won race 2...

Final Points...

1. Esteban Gutierrez - 353
2. Marco Wittmann - 327
3. Adrien Tambay - 260
4. Daniel Juncadella - 237
5. Tiago Geronimi - 187
6. Michael Christensen - 158
7. Pedro Bianchini - 145
8. Kevin Breysse - 136
9. Carlos Huertas - 136
10. David Mengesdorf - 124

14. Jazeman Jaafar - 67

So what do people think of the 1st season of Formula BMW Europe

META4 · 17 Sep 2008, 14:04 (Ref:2292544)

Italiaracing announce that the Formula BMW World Final will be held in Mexico City on 7th of December.

So it will be very unlikely to see a lot of "European" teams coming to Macau GP for the Formula BMW Race.

flor · 17 Sep 2008, 14:13 (Ref:2292552)

I wonder if Kaufmann will be there as the team owner is afraid of flying

META4 · 17 Sep 2008, 14:36 (Ref:2292569)

I guess they will have to , if they run Gutirrez being himself Mexican and winning the Formula BMW Europe Title

Lam Pak · 17 Sep 2008, 14:38 (Ref:2292572)

world cup should have been in macau gp. mexico is unsense. bmw is homeless in mexico.

META4 · 17 Sep 2008, 15:12 (Ref:2292601)

I guess For BMW it makes more sense on a marketing point of view to organise the World Final in Mexico.

First because they probably get some money for the Mexican organisation , instead of to have to pay to race at Macau.

Second point i think is because MacauGP is already very busy for media coverage and BMW is already involved in WTCC.

Better to organise the World Final during a "motorsport Free" week end

Lam Pak · 17 Sep 2008, 15:20 (Ref:2292605)

ok i feel what you feel but in between i think bmw would have more chances in asia.

Go_For_Pole · 29 Oct 2008, 13:07 (Ref:2323473)

Juniors for 2009 has just been announced, amongst them there is a Greek, 17yrs old George Katsinis

**bella** · 29 Oct 2008, 13:18 (Ref:2323483)

how does it work next year for the teams, will it be the same ones or is it open to newbies again?

racearacer · 20 Dec 2008, 12:40 (Ref:2358808)

I have followed Ollie's career very closely and it seems to have gone unnoticed that since changing teams after the Formula BMW Europe Championship he has had a win in Shanghai, a second in Singapore and a solid sixth place in the world final in Mexico. This was acheived with a team, who for their own reasons did not have a strong European Championship either, but like Ollie had something to prove.

On two other occasions during the year when he raced with another team, in Canada and Brazil, he was comfortably in the top six and although in his 'rookie' year he has had fourteen races in thirteen different countries, he still found time to test in F3 and has been very impressive and has offers for next year.

Nobody puts more into their racing than Ollie and he is very professional in every way. I have no doubt that he has a lot of talent, which will be seen next year when he is with an experienced race team in a good car.

META4 · 20 Dec 2008, 13:15 (Ref:2358813)

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Originally Posted by racearacer

I have followed Ollie's career very closely and it seems to have gone unnoticed that since changing teams after the Formula BMW Europe Championship he has had a win in Shanghai, a second in Singapore and a solid sixth place in the world final in Mexico. This was acheived with a team, who for their own reasons did not have a strong European Championship either, but like Ollie had something to prove.

On two other occasions during the year when he raced with another team, in Canada and Brazil, he was comfortably in the top six and although in his 'rookie' year he has had fourteen races in thirteen different countries, he still found time to test in F3 and has been very impressive and has offers for next year.

Nobody puts more into their racing than Ollie and he is very professional in every way. I have no doubt that he has a lot of talent, which will be seen next year when he is with an experienced race team in a good car.

the reasons are probably comming from the difference of level between FBMW Europe and FBMW America and Pacific

Look at Motoworld Team, last in the teams ranking in BMW Europe and winning races in BMW Pacific...

You got to admit as well that the F BMW Final in Mexico had not really a strong field this year

sceptic · 20 Dec 2008, 16:48 (Ref:2358885)

I think Ollie's problems are down to poor management and decision-making.

He certainly shouldn't have signed up for another season of karting in 2007 - he would now concede this himself I think - and arguably should have moved into single-seaters in 2006.

He did a lot of testing in different cars in the second half of 2007, then despite having a very good F Renault Eurocup seat lined up, went with FBMW, and a team which was never going to be competitive, apparently on the basis of winning a BMW scholarship.

Hopefully next season he can getback on track in F3.

racearacer · 20 Dec 2008, 19:25 (Ref:2358963)

We can assure you that Zanarini Management (The manager of Fisichella Motorsport), BMW Motorsport and the British MSA do not 'miss manage or badly advise their drivers.

Ollie Millroy is a young professinal racing driver receiving the best advise that is available. He is nine months into his career and has already raced in 14 races in 13 different countries, with one win, one second place and five top ten finishes including a sixth at the BMW world final in Mexico.

Too much pressure is put on young drivers to win to early and unless you are with a 'top team' whatever talent you may have, it is impossible.

This eighteen year old is rated amongst 'those who know' to be one of the most promising but under rated young drivers in the UK and time will prove that he has what it takes.

For your information Ollie is a BMW Junior Developement Driver and an MSA Race Elite Academy Driver and has until recently has only ever tested in BMW and a few days in Formula Renault.

Maybe you know something that they dont????

META4 · 20 Dec 2008, 19:52 (Ref:2358974)

Are you his agent?

nobody really said anything wrong about Ollie's driving skills AFAIK...

racearacer · 20 Dec 2008, 20:36 (Ref:2358995)

The standard in Europe is much higher but unless it is handed to you on a plate there is not such a thing as 'an easy win' especially on a Grand Prix circuit that you have never seen before.

I can assure you that the standard of drivers at the world final, from all three championships, was very high and should not be under estimated,

sceptic · 21 Dec 2008, 00:01 (Ref:2359073)

Quote:

Originally Posted by racearacer

We can assure you that Zanarini Management (The manager of Fisichella Motorsport), BMW Motorsport and the British MSA do not 'miss manage or badly advise their drivers.

Ollie Millroy is a young professinal racing driver receiving the best advise that is available. He is nine months into his career and has already raced in 14 races in 13 different countries, with one win, one second place and five top ten finishes including a sixth at the BMW world final in Mexico.

Too much pressure is put on young drivers to win to early and unless you are with a 'top team' whatever talent you may have, it is impossible.

This eighteen year old is rated amongst 'those who know' to be one of the most promising but under rated young drivers in the UK and time will prove that he has what it takes.

For your information Ollie is a BMW Junior Developement Driver and an MSA Race Elite Academy Driver and has until recently has only ever tested in BMW and a few days in Formula Renault.

Maybe you know something that they dont????

I was following Ollie's career well before he signed for FMS.
Wrong decisions were made much earlier than that.

To say his career is only nine months old is rather underestimating the previous nine years.

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