[BTCC] BTCC 2017 Rumours & Silly Season

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by sceptic

They race pick-ups in the UK too.

Neither UK nor US are actual pickups. Just silhouette bodies on a space frame chassis.

[Jiiiiiiim]

Interesting to hear on TTW that BKR probably won't be running the VW CC next year. Also Swindon are keen for someone to run the new engine in an updated CC, so could we see someone else take the CC's off BKR's hands and stick on the RML kit with a new Swindon lump in? Think it could be quite a competitive package still. However BKR must have something very interesting lined up or in the pipeline to be moving away from the CC!

[Moneyseeker]

Originally Posted by Jiiiiiiim

Interesting to hear on TTW that BKR probably won't be running the VW CC next year. Also Swindon are keen for someone to run the new engine in an updated CC, so could we see someone else take the CC's off BKR's hands and stick on the RML kit with a new Swindon lump in? Think it could be quite a competitive package still. However BKR must have something very interesting lined up or in the pipeline to be moving away from the CC!

Do we know that BMR are going to run the Levorg next year or another Subaru model? In which case BKR to run a couple of Levorg's?

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by Moneyseeker

Do we know that BMR are going to run the Levorg next year or another Subaru model? In which case BKR to run a couple of Levorg's?

4 of those ugly wagons is enough already, we don't need more on the grid

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

4 of those ugly wagons is enough already, we don't need more on the grid

Think you misread the post.

[S700UBO]

be interesting to see what BKR do get up to in the off season

im not sure what subaru would replace the Levorg with and seems a bit of a waste to ditch them after a year but thats what TD with the Civic Tourer and Volvo say maybe true!

[S griffin]

Yeah, but they seem to have found the car's potential unlike the Honda

[Sodemo]

The WRX STi would be the perfect car choice for Subaru.

[Urinal2001]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

The WRX STi would be the perfect car choice for Subaru.

I cant help but feel that that is far closer to what Plato had in mind when he supposedly came up with the Subaru idea 4 years ago. Considering the Levorg presumably wasnt even in the pipeline then, it has to have been.

I said it toward the start of the season, but as the year has gone i have become more confident.... imo they are using the Levorg as a test-bed this year, and will switch all relevant running gear and data over to something more... conventional... from the Subaru stable for 2017.

The BKR info from TTT just seems to slot into that quite nicely now.

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

The WRX STi would be the perfect car choice for Subaru.

Subaru UK said no to that idea. I know it seems like the perfect racing choice, but the package has to make monetary sense too. The WRX STI is imported in tiny numbers these days, far from the halcyon days.

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by Urinal2001

imo they are using the Levorg as a test-bed this year, and will switch all relevant running gear and data over to something more... conventional... from the Subaru stable for 2017.

Such as?

[Tja]

Originally Posted by thlbtcc

Subaru UK said no to that idea. I know it seems like the perfect racing choice, but the package has to make monetary sense too. The WRX STI is imported in tiny numbers these days, far from the halcyon days.

Does Subaru UK manufacture any cars or are they all imports? Using a car 'built in Britain' is certainly more appealing to use in the BTCC, just like Honda do with the Civic.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by Tja

Does Subaru UK manufacture any cars or are they all imports? Using a car 'built in Britain' is certainly more appealing to use in the BTCC, just like Honda do with the Civic.

All Subaru cars are imported to Europe.

The WRX will be disappearing from Subaru showrooms soon and is not being replaced. Fact, not speculation.

A new Impreza is due on sale in the States and Japan soon, so likely in the UK late 2017. It's a five door hatch for the UK, but whether BMR/ Subaru would want to run it is anyones guess...

[Urinal2001]

Originally Posted by thlbtcc

Such as?

Well, like the post i quoted in my response, i was thinking the WRX. However, until you mentioned it, i wasnt aware that Subaru had said no to that possibility.

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by Urinal2001

Well, like the post i quoted in my response, i was thinking the WRX. However, until you mentioned it, i wasnt aware that Subaru had said no to that possibility.

No worries

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

All Subaru cars are imported to Europe.

The WRX will be disappearing from Subaru showrooms soon and is not being replaced. Fact, not speculation.

A new Impreza is due on sale in the States and Japan soon, so likely in the UK late 2017. It's a five door hatch for the UK, but whether BMR/ Subaru would want to run it is anyones guess...

Aye, thanks for the clarification. No doubt in a few pages time we'll still see renders of a WRX STI in blue with gold wheels and tobacco sponsorship with the claim that it 'should' be like this

But one main reason for the Levorg entry is to change such perceptions and for that, we should all be grateful that Subaru UK chose the BTCC as the platform to do that.

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by thlbtcc

But one main reason for the Levorg entry is to change such perceptions and for that, we should all be grateful that Subaru UK chose the BTCC as the platform to do that.

Wagon's are boring family cars, no sugar coating will ever change that

and because there are so many of them there is nothing exiting or COOL to have it either ,

[BertMk2]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

Wagon's are boring family cars, no sugar coating will ever change that

and because there are so many of them there is nothing exiting or COOL to have it either ,

Audi RS4? Not boring

[Bramzel]

Don't feed the troll

[S700UBO]

ahh well if my RS6 avant is "boring" I definatly made the wrong choice to transport my dogs about in.....

I actually LIKE the Levorg in BTCC spec and have to say seeing a few on the roads its a massive differently looking car

[Alfisti]

Your Audi is a fantastic motor, and I too like the Levorg in the BTCC - it certainly is proving that bodystyle is not the be all and end all for defining a fast or performance car.

Many years ago I had a run out in a Police modified Volvo 850 T5R - the Terminator - acceleration and braking were mind blowing. I drove that the same day as a Ferrari 348, and the Volvo made the Ferrari look utterly pointless.

Estates can be very interesting.

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by S700UBO

ahh well if my RS6 avant is "boring" I definatly made the wrong choice to transport my dogs about in.....

I actually LIKE the Levorg in BTCC spec and have to say seeing a few on the roads its a massive differently looking car

the normal Audi S6 sedan is much cooler than the wagon

for me wagon screams family and boring mondane life style, I can't see anyone going in a pub and say her I got my new Ford Focus Turnier while at the same time they would be more inclined to be proud if their Focus RS hatchback for example

and If I remember the Civic Turer came to existence because Honda marketing insisted not because Team Dynamics really though that it would be better, as proof it was scrapped after just one year

[auroan]

Hmmm, Utter tosh.

I neither have a family or a boring lifestyle and I run a Golf R Wagon.

My lifestyle includes racing at weekends and travelling all over the world.

And when driving the daily driver, can embarrass many a "hot" hatch on the road.

Your perception does not match reality.... especially when we look at estate only models like the RS6, which **** all over the S6 Saloon for "coolness", capability and presence. When I rocked up to the pub in a 24hr loaner RS6, people were very interested. And again when I settled on the R.

[S700UBO]

Originally Posted by auroan

Hmmm, Utter tosh.

I neither have a family or a boring lifestyle and I run a Golf R Wagon.

My lifestyle includes racing at weekends and travelling all over the world.

And when driving the daily driver, can embarrass many a "hot" hatch on the road.

Your perception does not match reality.... especially when we look at estate only models like the RS6, which **** all over the S6 Saloon for "coolness", capability and presence. When I rocked up to the pub in a 24hr loaner RS6, people were very interested. And again when I settled on the R.

Good choice on the R wagon! im tempted with one next as well!

but anyway I feel we have gone off on a tangent!

8 days until Silverstone 6 races of 2016 left

[Bcarr6]

Originally Posted by S700UBO

ahh well if my RS6 avant is "boring" I definatly made the wrong choice to transport my dogs about in.....

I actually LIKE the Levorg in BTCC spec and have to say seeing a few on the roads its a massive differently looking car

Great choice on the RS6, I just got a new RS4 saloon but looked at a estate version in the show room.... Holy **** that thing was badass.

Anyone saying a 'hot' estate isn't as cool as a tiny sardine tin is a little loopy.

That being said, I personally don't like the Levorg for BTCC. I like the saloon models for touring cars better


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