Irvine.....what do you think ?

[ASCII Man]

Originally posted by Guy Goddard2
If Irvine does drive for Jordan what will he do with his "Jaguar" helment design, use it or swop back to his traditional red/green Irish one?





Guy

I hope he would revert back to his red/green helmet design, that jaguar design looked like

[Valve Bounce]

If he's really committed, then a white helmet and straightjacket would be the best outfit, don't you think?

[Jellybabe]

Originally posted by MrPress
Davidson was what 1/2 second slower then Webber in the Minardi. Whoop.

In a car he'd never driven before on a track he'd never been to! Besides, by that logic because he outpaces JV in testing that would make Webber 1sec a lap quicker than JV wouldn't it?

[Ej10]

Originally posted by Jellybabe
In a car he'd never driven before on a track he'd never been to! Besides, by that logic because he outpaces JV in testing that would make Webber 1sec a lap quicker than JV wouldn't it?

No because testing is unpridictabe. One could be on a lower fuel load. Davidson probably did more distance testing than yoong did racing. Another point id like to make is rthat stoddart cleary said yoong didnt have equal equiptment with webber but stated clearly that davidson and webber had the same equiptment in hungary and spa.

[Jellybabe]

I think you're talking out of your arse... When did Stoddart, Mark or Alex say that Alex didn't have equal equipment? Alex provided the team's main sponsor - they wouldn't be too happy to know their man was being shafted would they? And of course BAR do more miles than Minardi, but miles in a BAR are not the same as miles in a Minardi - the BAR is as far ahead of the Minardi as the Ferrari is ahead of the BAR, and the two cars are as different to drive as a posh new sports car and a beat up old Robin Reliant.

[Mr V]

I think you'll finf JB that although Alex's sponsers provided the funds, Mark Webber did get all the new parts first, after all, Marks the better driver of the two so why give the lesser talented driver the new parts when he hasn't got the ability to use it properly.

[alfasud]

I think that if you start to list all the drivers who could have got the Jag R3 on podium in 2002, then take away all the ones who don't already have a drive or aren't in some way contracted to another team (or can't bring some sponsorship money with them).... it's not a very big list. A list of one some might say...... at least I'm sure that's what Eddie Irvine would say.

If the car's good, then Irvine will have the commitment.... as golem points out, if nothing else, he'd like to beat the Jag's with a lower spec cosworth. If the car's rubbish, then he probably won't have the commitment.

But if the car's rubbish, 2003 will probably be the last year for Jordan racing anyway.

[Jellybabe]

Originally posted by mr v
I think you'll finf JB that although Alex's sponsers provided the funds, Mark Webber did get all the new parts first, after all, Marks the better driver of the two so why give the lesser talented driver the new parts when he hasn't got the ability to use it properly.

That's not the same as saying that Mark had the better car. Realistically with Minardi the amount of new parts they got during the year was minimal, so if Ant happened to click for three weeks when both cars had the same parts then good for him, but it wasn't an intentional plot to give Alex an inferior car.

[golem]

It was for the most part of the season, Yoong having to deal with the lack of power steering due to parts shortage. They knew they couldn't afford to risk a smash up in their cars because there may not be enough to see out the season.

Hell, Davidson binned his car but at least Yoong kept the thing on the track for the entire race when he qualified (with no power steer) and Yoong isn't a big person, so I don't imagine it was easy for him to purely muscle the car about the track for the majority of the races that he had no PS system.

As for Webber V Davidson, unfair contest. There's no knowing how hard either was pushing. I don't imagine Webber was absolutely drilling in some races now, knowing what kind of state the parts supply was in. But we know Davidson was pushing hard enough to drive off. But, Webber knew his car pretty damn well and Davidson didn't, so any comparison is going to be without any accuracy really.

I guess if you stuck them in a couple of karts, you might get a fair result. 'Till then, hush.

And Jordan, mid january, early january... how about a new year's present for us fans? Put us out of our misery!

[fiona]

well im a massive Eddie fan and i certainly think he deserves the Jordan seat for next season
his developement skills would be vital to Jordan and would compliment Fisi

[nreed]

irvines proven quick, he and ej also have a past, i think itl work out. ive always liked eddie and think he'll surprise some people this time around.

[MrPress]

Jellyfield
In a car he'd never driven before on a track he'd never been to! Besides, by that logic because he outpaces JV in testing that would make Webber 1sec a lap quicker than JV wouldn't it?

Erm no. Methinks some clarification (Can't you tell I'm from Northern Ireland?:-)) is required.
I didn't say he was always gonna be 1/2 second slower then Webber, I was just implying that if he starts that slow, regardless of Webber having the advantage of a proper seat or more experience, then he isn't exactly the next Fangio. I wasn't trying to say "He's half a second less talented then Webber"

[Jellybabe]

I haven't seen a driver yet who's the next Fangio, or the next Senna, or the next Schumacher, or the next Prost - every driver is different...but before I go completely off topic you're welcome to stick to that opinion if you like but I still think you're wrong and I'm sure you'll see Ant winning F1 races hopefully before too long

PS.. It's Jellybabe not Jellyfield...!

[MrPress]

I haven't seen a driver yet who's the next Fangio, or the next Senna, or the next Schumacher, or the next Prost - every driver is different

True, but again, deep down you know what I mean. I don't think he's championship material.

but before I go completely off topic you're welcome to stick to that opinion if you like but I still think you're wrong and I'm sure you'll see Ant winning F1 races hopefully before too long

I hope I'm wrong too.

Jellyfield's a much better name though. I think you should consider changing :-)