Ralf's future at Williams - Page 3

Speed · 6 Apr 2003, 21:52 (Ref:560837)

Ralf spun some laps before, remember ?...

Lucky him.

Damon · 6 Apr 2003, 21:55 (Ref:560841)

Hardly clinging, from a driving point of view he gave Ralf a kicking this weekend. You have still to answer whether you consider Ralf's drive better than his brothers? Also remember that Ralf went off at turn 3 2 laps after the safety had come in at the start but was lucky no to go into the wall.

Mania · 6 Apr 2003, 22:02 (Ref:560857)

Actually, if yoy watch the replay (or if you take of the Pablo loving glasses) you'll see that the spin was a result of a touch with Trulli..they both spun while Ralf was overtaking Trulli.

Either way, he didnt end up looking at the wall like Pablo did.

Furthermore..Ralf's drive was better than his brothers because his brother didnt finish..Ralf did..and would have finished in the points too had there not been a red flag.

Full marks to Ralf..after a strong race in Sepang..he outqualified Pablo and drove a good race with little reward unfortunately..but that wasnt his doing.

Damon · 6 Apr 2003, 22:06 (Ref:560863)

I could throw that 'rose tinted specs' jab back in your direction Mania but I'll refrane myself

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Mania · 7 Apr 2003, 00:44 (Ref:561014)

The most important thing for me is that Fernando Alonso wasn't seriously injured," said Ralf. "The timing of the red flag was really bad luck for me.

"If this accident hadn't happened I assume that I would have been on the podium as many cars in front of me still had to stop for fuel. All in all my car was reasonably good under these difficult conditions, even though I must admit it was really a hard job to keep it on the track."

Valve Bounce · 7 Apr 2003, 01:00 (Ref:561026)

I think Ralf will stay, but if he did leave for whatever reason, then I do hope that Fisi will finally get a drive in a car that can win races. After his drive today, who would begrudge him a drive in one of the top teams?

RT · 7 Apr 2003, 02:42 (Ref:561082)

I'm not sure I'd want Giancarlo to go to Williams. The team seems to be in decline. If Michael Schumacher leaves, Ferrari would be a better option...Also, if Toyota gets its act together...

**Peter Mallett** · 7 Apr 2003, 05:59 (Ref:561125)

Poor old Ralf. Even though he kept it on the island and his mate was unlucky enough to get caught out he's still seen as the useless, gutless driver.

He took it to the Ferrari today. Did his tyres go off because like JPM earlier he dropped back.

However if truth be told they should have stopped the race when Button went off at the same place as five or six other cars went off. Then he'd have netted third.

Mattracer · 7 Apr 2003, 07:44 (Ref:561157)

Too many drivers (I can't remember names except Kimi I think went around the outside of him with monotonous regularity. Not tough enough to get around I'm afraid.

Miss Hardt · 7 Apr 2003, 08:44 (Ref:561198)

Quote:

Originally posted by DavidStHubbins
What I would like the most though is the sparks between the two angry fast dwarves (JPM and JV)!! DWARF FIGHT DWARF FIGHT!

Excuse me, but how tall are you? I bet you're not 2 m either!

Jacques in Williams would be re-living a dream....I am all for it.

DavidStHubbins · 7 Apr 2003, 09:39 (Ref:561267)

Quote:

Originally posted by Miss Hardt
Excuse me, but how tall are you? I bet you're not 2 m either!

I am only 5ft11 but I have met/walked by JV and he is a DWARF! An Evil DWARF

And I suspect the same of JPM

DavidStHubbins · 7 Apr 2003, 09:41 (Ref:561272)

Finally someone voted for the Obscure Junkie from Bethlehem

Life is good

f1manoz · 7 Apr 2003, 09:45 (Ref:561276)

I hope Ralf is booted and they get a real racer in there instead of a journeyman.

Fisi would be good, but I'd prefer him in a Ferrari. Bruno won't get the call, neither will Pizzonia after his start to his F1 career.

Out of them all, I would pick Gene!

Armco Bender · 7 Apr 2003, 09:52 (Ref:561283)

Put me down for there being 2 new drivers at Williams next season.

cos · 7 Apr 2003, 09:54 (Ref:561285)

from grandprix.com race report

Quote:

The race was neutralized until the end of lap 22. On lap 21 Verstappen was 11th and Ralf 12th. A lap later Ralf was 11th and Verstappen 12th and there was a gap between the two men of two-tenths of a second. The only way that this is possible is if Ralf broke the rules. Luckily for the BMW Williams driver the Race Direction appears to have been too busy focussing on other issues to have noticed and so Ralf avoided a drive through penalty, the normal punishment for such an offence.

Miss Hardt · 7 Apr 2003, 10:00 (Ref:561291)

Quote:

Originally posted by DavidStHubbins
I am only 5ft11 but I have met/walked by JV and he is a DWARF! An Evil DWARF And I suspect the same of JPM

5 ft 11...hmmm...duh...that's got to be around....175?! You're probably about 5-6 cm taller than him. Then he's not a dwarf.

But I believe they would actually fight.

Kenny W. · 7 Apr 2003, 10:29 (Ref:561321)

Just for info JV is (apparently) 168. 5ft 11 is approx 180.
which would make 12cm difference.
Anyway, I would like to see Fisi in the seat, but wonder how much Williams would have to pay to get Ralf out the seat.

Miss Hardt · 7 Apr 2003, 10:34 (Ref:561325)

Quote:

Originally posted by Kenny W.
Just for info JV is (apparently) 168. 5ft 11 is approx 180.
which would make 12cm difference.

Ooops...and I knew I am not good with math....

Tristan · 7 Apr 2003, 15:51 (Ref:561757)

Back to Ralf, whilst I have no dislike of the guy whatsoever, Brazil was hardly a stellar performance, particularly in light of the pre-reace optimism in Williams. The poor form continues...

BootsOntheSide · 7 Apr 2003, 16:23 (Ref:561810)

Ralf was, in fairness, unlucky with the way the race was stopped when Frentzen, Alonso, Webber and Trulli had to pit again, but that would've still only got him fifth, whereas had Montoya not spun off (the first to go out ofall the victims, so he had no way of expecting the torrent of water) he would've surely challenged for a podium finish.

Montoya's aggression in the early laps was a thrill to watch, with some amazing moves, yet once again Ralf just gave away the position once Kimi challenged on the outside. Ralf has basically got no guts in a fight - dare we suggest that there's something very effeminate about his driving style?

Mr V · 7 Apr 2003, 16:26 (Ref:561817)

Quote:

Originally posted by Tristan
Brazil was hardly a stellar performance,

you've been listening to Mr Brundle too much mate

EERO · 7 Apr 2003, 16:39 (Ref:561841)

Just a reminder, people, please keep it friendly and keep the personal attacks out of the forum.

I was a Ralf supporter here when it was just Ralf's Girl, me and...and...Ralf's Girl and me.

I have to admit that the fire that once seems to have been there has dimmed and I would be very concerned about my seat for next season if I were Ralfie.

Honestly, I would never see JV returning and no one else eligible on the grid springs to mind as a "Williams" driver-except maybe Pizzonia.

Damon · 7 Apr 2003, 17:15 (Ref:561866)

Ralf had a typcal cruise and collect attitude. My nan could drive around at 10mph and finish the race, it doesn't mean she's a better driver than the guys that spun off. For once though Ralf didn't collect and got all the points he deserved.

Tristan · 7 Apr 2003, 18:17 (Ref:561920)

I tell you what, there's a driver who's escaped criticism depsite some mediocre performances - Jacques Villeneuve. Button has just comprehensibly out-driven him so far this year.

Don K · 7 Apr 2003, 19:50 (Ref:562049)

Quote:

Originally posted by BootsOntheSide
Ralf was, in fairness, unlucky with the way the race was stopped when Frentzen, Alonso, Webber and Trulli had to pit again, but that would've still only got him fifth ...

Are you sure?
Ralf pitted from 3rd place.
And at the moment the race was stopped, he was already back to 7th.

View Poll Results: Who will partner JPM next year if Ralf is booted out?
Fisichella	18	30.00%
Massa	0	0%
Webber	8	13.33%
Gene	2	3.33%
Pizzonia	2	3.33%
Button	3	5.00%
Villeneuve	13	21.67%
Rosberg jr	1	1.67%
Nobody, RALF STAYS...	11	18.33%
Obscure junkie from Bethlehem	2	3.33%
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