Sandown 500 Entry List - Page 3

RaceTime · 7 Sep 2003, 10:12 (Ref:710655)

Not sure - the international rating is an FIA/CAMS designated thing - depends on who the promoter is - AVESCO, IMG or Jon Davison.

**GTRMagic** · 7 Sep 2003, 10:19 (Ref:710662)

From the Supp Regs again

"1.3.1 Promoter : IMG"

And something fun....

"1.2.2 - The Meeting has Major National status."

Tony C · 7 Sep 2003, 22:05 (Ref:711231)

Speedy could develop food poisning between sessions and enter a 'substitute' driver. Unless my memory fails me, a sub is legal and can be done with approval from the other entrants.

Has worked in the past.

sevi · 7 Sep 2003, 22:09 (Ref:711232)

It was reported that the only drivers affected are Rydell and both TD drivers. RT can you remember if the QLD 500 was a National or International round, I am sure it was only National.
But then I remember Beattie did not have a Cams circuit licence at all last year prior to the event. One was found for him, I am sure the same will be done for these guys.

RaceTime · 7 Sep 2003, 22:17 (Ref:711240)

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/downlo...LD%20Final.pdf

1.2.2 The Meeting will be a Major National Meeting.

I would be interested in finding a copy of the Supp Regs though to see the permit number that was issued for it - there used to be a spot on the SoupCars site that gave the Supp and Further Supp regs but, like anything else on that site - finding it is almost impossible.

**GTRMagic** · 7 Sep 2003, 22:20 (Ref:711241)

I like that plan TonyC, yes it is possible for Speedy to substitute a driver (like Owen Kelly in Seton's car at Bathurst last year).... will need to have a quiet word

I also find it weird that only Jan Magnussen, Nicolas Minassian and Rickard Rydell have issues with licencing. Allan Simonsen must already be sorted, having run PROCAR all year, not sure how John Cleland would manage that, or Andy Priaulx.. or Brabs who runs on a British licence I believe.... do we have some deal or other on British licences being transferable or something? Or because they have been here before, all is sweet?

If I were them, I cant say I would want to swap my hard earned international licence from the country of birth/racing to swap for a local yokel version....

vatuloa · 7 Sep 2003, 23:16 (Ref:711277)

Grant Kenny announced on 10 this morning that he's driving in both endouros he didn't say a lot about it as Bert was more intersted in his weight loss etc. Grant did say it's been a long tome since he drove the WRX.

**GTRMagic** · 7 Sep 2003, 23:25 (Ref:711283)

Oakely Doakely... lets get the view from somewhere that should knows whats going on...

It seems that any application for transferance of licences from international standard to Australian C4 designation needs to be in CAMS' hands by close of trading today. Any driver not having this paperwork in CAMS hands by this time, will effectively not be able to compete at Sandown this weekend.

This process has been in place for some time apparently, suggesting the international drivers who had competed in Australia previously, or had team management used to foreign import drivers, will have this issue sorted.

CAMS could not confirm whether any applications had been received, nor whose applications they had in hand due to privacy rules.

RaceTime · 7 Sep 2003, 23:31 (Ref:711292)

Privacy Rules? Political correctness.

So this would mean, then, that no entry list can be published due to privacy rules?????

**GTRMagic** · 7 Sep 2003, 23:43 (Ref:711298)

AVESCO releases these, they wipe out your common law rights by making you sign a paper that says you arent allowed to sue anyone else in the series, so what would a few bent privacy rules actually mean?

RaceTime · 8 Sep 2003, 00:05 (Ref:711311)

Still raises an interesting quesiton though...

**GTRMagic** · 8 Sep 2003, 00:09 (Ref:711314)

For sure it does, I bet there are lots of things that CAMS, AVESCO and TEGA do that if tested at common law, would sink their little party... but who (besides the Morrises) has the cash to pursue it?

RaceTime · 8 Sep 2003, 00:34 (Ref:711319)

<cough> AAA....

sevi · 8 Sep 2003, 02:53 (Ref:711344)

Quote:

Originally posted by GTRMagic
WW has qualified the car this year, just never fronted on race day. LRT were the brainy ones, hooking up with Speedy to share his pitboom, knowing full well that there will be times when they get the boom to themselves

LRT should be thanking Ray for that then, as he is the one to allocate the pitlane garages.

DAVID PATERSON · 9 Sep 2003, 07:13 (Ref:712706)

I have a C4 licence, is it worth doing a ring around of L1 teams who have nominated International drivers?

RaceTime · 9 Sep 2003, 07:21 (Ref:712710)

What for? To sell them your licence or obtain a drive?

simon wills · 9 Sep 2003, 07:21 (Ref:712711)

Probably is David...

DAVID PATERSON · 9 Sep 2003, 07:38 (Ref:712728)

What do you reckon Race?

G'day Simon and welcome to the forum. I was only joking, I assume you are too.

simon wills · 9 Sep 2003, 07:42 (Ref:712733)

Yeah I was. I think things will be ok David, just people being pushy when theres no need.

paydriver · 9 Sep 2003, 23:46 (Ref:713669)

I guess when Neil McFadyen takes the wheel for the 2nd stint we know Dynamik sorted their issue by ignoring CAMS bureaucracy...

smokinJ · 10 Sep 2003, 00:36 (Ref:713687)

hi simon on your site it says only jan is will have any real problems

and that Kees may have to deal with the dutch instead to sort it out (surender his international and try to get it back after the race)
are cams such big of ********s to deal with

by the way how did the online chat go?

smokinJ · 10 Sep 2003, 02:24 (Ref:713723)

my mistake sorry Kieron
clicked before i thought

**GTRMagic** · 10 Sep 2003, 06:24 (Ref:713782)

Jan Magnussen's problem is that he has a race in the US the weekend following Sandown, in the prodrive Ferrari somewhere or other... so swapping his International licence for the local version in the timeframe, and hoping it gets swapped back in time to go earn money from his day job a few days later is fraught with danger!

simon wills · 10 Sep 2003, 07:11 (Ref:713816)

The online chat went well I suppose as it was our first time trying smokinj. We had good reports so fingers crossed.

Jan has had problems, and I have stayed away from it and focused on what I need to do for the weekend but I have heard some little bits here and there but I dont know how true it is. Nic seems to have agreed to a Oz licence and Jan was this morning finalising his situation. I think a problem is that they have scrapped a 'visa' type system recently which has changed things. That might not be the case with this situation, but I know I used to use 'visa's' a lot, earlier on in my career.

**GTRMagic** · 11 Sep 2003, 07:19 (Ref:714719)

I guess we know the answer now huh!

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