So who is in with a chance at Jordan and Minardi? - Page 3

Dixie Flatline · 26 Jan 2005, 02:06 (Ref:1210051)

The same article speculates that Nicolas Kiesa has found sufficient sponsorship dollars in Denmark to meet the funding requirements of Minardi so he has "vaulted" to the head of the queue to sign on with Minardi.

BootsOntheSide · 26 Jan 2005, 10:14 (Ref:1210182)

They could probably do worse than Kiesa - he looked adequate in 2003, althogh a bit slow, and has at least won major junior-series races.

BSchneiderFan · 26 Jan 2005, 11:11 (Ref:1210218)

I find all this "Bruni to race for Coloni" type stuff most amusing, for the simple reason that Bruni is my wife's first name.

Kiesa wasn't too bad in his last stint at Minardi, I suppose, but I don't see him setting the GP world alight.

Tweed · 26 Jan 2005, 19:40 (Ref:1210602)

I think he was better than Baumgartner, but not as good as a motivated Bruni.

Kicking-back · 26 Jan 2005, 19:56 (Ref:1210616)

Autosport tomorrow says Nariain Karthikeyan is in with a strong chance of a Jordan seat.

He's fast but fiery - I think he could be a good choice.

And he'd open up commercial opportunities in India.

mac · 26 Jan 2005, 22:04 (Ref:1210739)

I wouldn't mind seeing Narain get a crack - I'd like to see how he could do.

Kicking-back · 26 Jan 2005, 22:23 (Ref:1210761)

New MD of Jordan, Mr Kolles, and sporting director Trevor Carlin apparently want Davidson and Dominguez.

Rennen · 26 Jan 2005, 22:27 (Ref:1210764)

Yeah Karthikeyan makes sense, Carlin rates him...now who else emmmm!

Rich R · 26 Jan 2005, 22:34 (Ref:1210768)

i'd like to see karthikeyan given a chance, even if it's just a shootout against other drivers for the seat(if jordan have the luxury of picking drivers on talent not money), i remember him being good in the wet as well.

Skam85 · 26 Jan 2005, 22:38 (Ref:1210770)

Do you think BAR will release Ant? Not likely IMO, seeing has Jordan have Toyota engines, Honda being Toyota's rival etc... Why would BAR let him go when they wouldn't even allow a test with Williams?

Shame really, because whether Button signs with Williams or not, a year of racing experience for Ant would do him a world of good.

BSchneiderFan · 27 Jan 2005, 01:07 (Ref:1210832)

So it'll be Doornbos, Glock, Davidson, Dominguez, Wurz or Karthikeyan at Jordan. Phew - for a moment I thought there might be some confusion.

Kicking-back · 27 Jan 2005, 06:39 (Ref:1210922)

I don't think Wurz is in the running - but it will likely be two of the other names you suggest BScheiderFan.

Armco Bender · 27 Jan 2005, 08:05 (Ref:1210949)

They should just put 4 extra chicanes at every track,this will save these 2 kerb crawling teams from actually having to front and block the track for the rest of the teams for the weekend.

Kicking-back · 27 Jan 2005, 08:09 (Ref:1210952)

Armco Bender - would you prefer 16 cars on the grid only?

The new owner of Jordan is one of the world's richest men.

Look at what Abramovich has done for Chelsea - that's the type of ambition Midland Jordan have.

Armco Bender · 27 Jan 2005, 08:18 (Ref:1210956)

16 cars and drivers that could actually race each other would be fine.
All the money in the world can't make a turtle win the Grand National,as Ford discovered.

Gabrio · 27 Jan 2005, 08:31 (Ref:1210966)

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Originally Posted by Skam85

Baumgartner isn't that, but he is Panis level IMO. He had a long and semi-rewarding career and can now rest happily testing. Baumgartner has the potential to do the same.

Erm, nothing against Baumgartner, but if he's at Panis' level there's something fundamentally wrong...Panis has won in F3,F3000 and F1. He may not have been championship winning material but I know pretty well his former Prost Gp engineer (who now works at GPC in Fia Gt) and he can tell you how good Panis really was. Comparing him to Baumgartner who has won nothing in his career is not that serious

Gabrio · 27 Jan 2005, 08:38 (Ref:1210972)

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Originally Posted by Dutch chap

Doornbos is relatively new in the game and perhaps his management has a lot to learn. Sad, though.

Doornbos may be new in the game but his management isn't. His manager is Marco Zecchi, former Ferrari F1, former manager of Morbidelli and former N.2 of the italian sporting autority CSAI. If there is a guy who has a lot of phone numbers in his agenda, it's him. Bad thing about Doornbos is that the sponsors want to deal by themselves with the team and that is a bit a pain in the neck.

BootsOntheSide · 27 Jan 2005, 11:10 (Ref:1211103)

You might rpefer 16 cars on the grid, but the promoters of the races certainly wouldn't, and neitehr would the drivers pushing for a chance - look how many guys have impressed with teams that aren't among the top 8 over the years - Senna, Prost, Berger, Alonso, Webber, Barrichello, and so on.

perfectly_frank · 27 Jan 2005, 14:05 (Ref:1211205)

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Shame really, because whether Button signs with Williams or not, a year of racing experience for Ant would do him a world of good.

I'm not sure a year of racing in a Jordan would help Davidson's career/stats at all if it isn't more competitive than the EJ14, Skam. Although in it's defense, the EJ14 only had 2 problems. It was unstable during acceleration and it was unstable during deceleration.

N I Tram · 27 Jan 2005, 14:14 (Ref:1211211)

Simply replacing the Ford engine with the Toyota should be a big boost for Jordan, and I think they've bolstered the technical side again. The investment from Alex Schnaider won't have much effect on the quality of this year's car, but I'd expect the car to be good. Ant won't really learn anything mroe from testing this year, especially with limited testing hours and no Friday running, and if anything you can learn mroe racing a bad car than a good one.

bradrive · 27 Jan 2005, 20:11 (Ref:1211438)

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Originally Posted by Gabrio

Doornbos may be new in the game but his management isn't. His manager is Marco Zecchi, former Ferrari F1, former manager of Morbidelli and former N.2 of the italian sporting autority CSAI. If there is a guy who has a lot of phone numbers in his agenda, it's him. Bad thing about Doornbos is that the sponsors want to deal by themselves with the team and that is a bit a pain in the neck.

They want to deal directly with the team, BECAUSE they know Marco Zecchi
very well...

bradrive · 27 Jan 2005, 20:17 (Ref:1211441)

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Originally Posted by bradrive

They want to deal directly with the team, BECAUSE they know Marco Zecchi
very well...

In todays world it is not the amount of phone numbers in your book giving you the drive, but very hard work in doing solid business proposals. To do driver managment today involves a fairly substantial amount of knowhow of how multinational business is run including specialist legal work.

bradrive · 27 Jan 2005, 20:19 (Ref:1211445)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradrive

In todays world it is not the amount of phone numbers in your book giving you the drive, but very hard work in doing solid business proposals. To do driver managment today involves a fairly substantial amount of knowhow of how multinational business is run including specialist legal work.

and I am sure you know that better than myself being a professional banker...

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