BMW Z4 race version - Page 3

Go_For_Pole · 30 Jul 2006, 09:30 (Ref:1667646)

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Originally Posted by panoz.lmp1

When you talk to people who are involved in DTM you can made your own mind. For example: It is not a coincidence that at every race one of the "old" cars come up high in the standing.

Oh please...

gwyllion · 30 Jul 2006, 14:07 (Ref:1667868)

Quote:

Originally Posted by panoz.lmp1

And: DTM is a stupid marketing show. When you talk to people who are involved in DTM you can made your own mind. For example: It is not a coincidence that at every race one of the "old" cars come up high in the standing.

And don't forget the frequent occurence of team orders.

Go_For_Pole · 30 Jul 2006, 14:31 (Ref:1667888)

Emmm, I can understand your bias but badmouthing DTM as a marketing show is ironic considering that all Sportscar championships have no clue on how to behave from a merketing point of view.

As for the old car thing I would really like to know how do you justify such a claim given the technical rules of the DTM.

**FIRE** · 30 Jul 2006, 14:59 (Ref:1667905)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

Emmm, I can understand your bias but badmouthing DTM as a marketing show is ironic considering that all Sportscar championships have no clue on how to behave from a merketing point of view.

With the millions of Mercedes and Audi it's much easier to promote a series.

Asa · 2 Aug 2006, 08:37 (Ref:1670679)

I think BMW might return to Le Mans with a Hydrogen powered car... that way they can showcase their Hydrogen technology, just like Audi did with the R10 this year.

If they win with Hydrogen, then it will prove to the public that Hydrogen driven cars are not slow nor impractical. It will be the best marketing stunt ever.

broadrun96 · 12 Aug 2006, 22:47 (Ref:1680908)

Any truth to the report on mariantic.co.uk that BMW is pulling out of all US sportscar racing at the end of the season? Hoping my local bmw team isn't out of the support on their new e90 chassis with only half a season on them. Plus I was hoping BMW would be working on a Sauber-assisted P2 or M6 GT1 car(if it's eligible)

gwyllion · 12 Aug 2006, 22:53 (Ref:1680909)

Can someone tell what is exactly in Autosport? PTG will stop receiving support form BMW America, but can continue racing, or they just stop next year with ALMS period. I saw rumors that PTG ordered 2 BMW Z4s. All very unclear to me

AU N EGL · 12 Aug 2006, 23:45 (Ref:1680917)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

Any truth to the report on mariantic.co.uk that BMW is pulling out of all US sportscar racing at the end of the season?

Could not find a thing about this on the autosport web site. Sounds like mariantic was wrong, would not be the first time.

If some one finds the exact story, please post the link

ger80 · 13 Aug 2006, 12:17 (Ref:1681178)

look at www.project-lemans.de (only german). They got the info that this in not true from BMW NA and PTG on wednesday.

mariantic · 13 Aug 2006, 13:49 (Ref:1681252)

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Originally Posted by AU N EGL

Could not find a thing about this on the autosport web site. Sounds like mariantic was wrong, would not be the first time.

If some one finds the exact story, please post the link

The story is the main feature on the sportscar pages (pp30) of the print edition of this Thursday's Autosport.

"mariantic wrong"? sure

, but more often right

mariantic

AU N EGL · 14 Aug 2006, 12:22 (Ref:1682122)

Finnally showed up on autosports web site:

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...7025/1031/FREE

gwyllion · 14 Aug 2006, 13:24 (Ref:1682186)

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Autoweek reports a BMW GT pullout for PTG for 2007 (remember
the Z4 Coupe article around Sebring?) but our 110% reliable source
tells us there is a very definitive BMW plan already in motion!

source: http://www.lmsr.net/

broadrun96 · 15 Aug 2006, 00:10 (Ref:1682714)

Anybody think this could lead to Z4 racers coming over to compete in either ALMS (GT2s maybe?) or Rolex GT or GS races? Would be cool to see how well the little car could hang with the higher power but higher weight cars in the GT classes. but this also seems like BMW might be trying to concentrate the money and research to build a good competitive Porsche beating program around the new M3, with the V8 torque to get through to tighter tracks better, or even better an M6 program to fill out the GT1 class with a little more cars. Here's to hoping Prodrive hears this and takes a little time out of the new F1 project to build a few 599 GT1 cars, or maybe even Ferrari build their own. also on the BMW front, anybody think this could hurt the only E90 raceteam in the US right now (my local BimmerWorld race team in speed touring cars) on the r&d front since it is the current body style, suppoedly the BIG reason for pulling out of PTG?

SteveT · 15 Aug 2006, 02:28 (Ref:1682778)

Here's another article (in German) with quotes from Robert Mitchell from BMW NA where he is saying that they aren't really ending the relationship with PTG but moving on to a new Phase. It remains to be seen what PTG will do next year. Perhaps race the E46 M3 with a V8.

http://www.projectlemans.de/content/view/2263/106/

gwyllion · 16 Aug 2006, 12:03 (Ref:1684105)

According to Murphy the Bear, PTG looks to race the M3s in ALMS as privateer.

Quote:

Others expect PTG to be part of the program when the new M3 hits the track in 2008 – as a factory entry. In the meantime, Tom Milner will bring the M3’s back to the American Le Mans Series with private funding if at all possible.

source: http://murphythebear.com/blog/2006/0...is-on-his-way/

mirkob · 31 Aug 2006, 12:07 (Ref:1698441)

The Z4 M tested at Vallelunga last week, to solve problems and improve performance. The drivers was Quester, Muller and Claudia Hurtgen.

The first race should be the 24h Silverstone BRITCAR.

source SportAutoMoto

SteveT · 31 Aug 2006, 19:27 (Ref:1698767)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirkob

The Z4 M tested at Vallelunga last week, to solve problems and improve performance. The drivers was Quester, Muller and Claudia Hurtgen.

The first race should be the 24h Silverstone BRITCAR.

source SportAutoMoto

Thanks!

Bob Riebe · 1 Sep 2006, 04:07 (Ref:1698995)

Even one of those BMWs in the field would be great.

SteveT · 9 Sep 2006, 03:27 (Ref:1705644)

The Duller Z4 M Coupe was on the track Friday qualifying for the Britcar 24 hours at Silverstone. It looks to have had the second fastest time. Of course, I have no way to judge how strong the other cars are.

M Coupe · 9 Sep 2006, 07:56 (Ref:1705716)

The car was fastest in the night qualifying session.

Here is a picture I took (already on the Britcar thread).

LC2guy · 11 Sep 2006, 08:59 (Ref:1707701)

Well, what a car. Wins a 24 hour race first time out. It did have a few problems, and at one point was 18 laps off the lead, but it was running 5 seconds a lap faster than anything else most of the time, and deserved to win. However, It felt a bit like Ferrari taking on a field of F3 cars with their F1 car. They just looked and performed in a different league to anything else.

**John Turner** · 11 Sep 2006, 09:49 (Ref:1707739)

Yep, a stunning debut. It suffered massive oil loss at one stage and Tim Mullen eventually had to bring it in about 9.00 pm Saturday evening to have an oil seal changed which caused many lost laps. To be fair, although it looked like a 'sledgehammer' to crack a nut, I don't think anyone expected it to be quite so quick first time out over 24 hours and it's main rival, the pole sitting Rollcentre Mosler had all sorts of problems from very early on. The Z4M driver line up was incredibly strong too, and Jamie Campbell-Walter's opening stint which took it into the lead and going away, after briefly dropping to 3rd at the start, was superb.

Redracer77 · 11 Sep 2006, 09:56 (Ref:1707747)

I was in the Mosler that was 2nd in night qualifying behind the BMW and followed it for a while. It was awesome, it drove like a single seater. It looked very light weight and could turn in really well. Quester was the slowest driver in the ream and even he was doing 2m00 - 2m03 all day long with the other 3 drivers doing between 1m57 - 1m59 lap after lap after lap....

They did really well to come back 15 laps down but they only had that one problem other than that it went like clock work. BMW works team or not they still won and well done. If anything it was good publicity for the 24 hour event for such a star line up to come and win. Maybe more big teams will come and make the event bigger and better.

Does anyone have any nice pics of the No2 Mosler?

**John Turner** · 11 Sep 2006, 14:00 (Ref:1707999)

Red, great to hear a driver's view of all this, and yes, I think the presence of the BMW and the outcome might well raise the profile of the event. I have added a picture of No2 on the other thread.