UK Formula Ford Expands in 07/random f3 discussion - Page 3

Go_For_Pole · 18 Jan 2007, 21:36 (Ref:1818812)

Hey, you can not call it Mediterranean without a stop in Greece

Have you ever been to the glorious Megara circuit?!!! Monza my a..

strider · 18 Jan 2007, 23:20 (Ref:1818913)

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Originally Posted by bella

wait, you could be onto something. you could have a 6 week formula 3 championship - a couple of races each weekend. each team travels between the circuits without returning to base, supported by a full factory of spares in the space of a couple of trucks, and the circus starts at jerez, then goes round spain, across france to monaco in the middle of the series, then works its way down to italy

Excellent, a positive response.

Which 6 circuits do you suggest, apart from Jerez and (by implication) Monaco?

Go_For_Pole, please supply a link to the glorious Megara!

ss_collins · 18 Jan 2007, 23:22 (Ref:1818916)

bella - thats a fun idea

recaro cup has 4 chassis - probably 5 next year (6 if you count the older dallaras)

But BF3 may have 3 so perhaps thats the way to go

Anyone read unfair advantage by mark donohue and PVanV? really bring home the reasons why drivers need good technical know how.

Is it as hard to develop a Dallara as it is to develop a Ligier or Mygale? Do teams play it safe?

Do drivers demand 'whatever won last year?'

Should F3 calendars be synchronised so there are few clashes or do teams not care about 'away' races?

With its own wind tunnel and F1 style base will Carlin build its own chassis?

Redracer77 · 18 Jan 2007, 23:46 (Ref:1818930)

please can you start another thread for F3 and leave this as a UK Formula Ford thread

Mackmot · 18 Jan 2007, 23:50 (Ref:1818934)

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Originally Posted by JohnMiller

Travelling sounds very expensive for the Mediterranean F3! Do you know how far it is from Jerez to Misano? Better just stick to Spain.

We did it in 25hours non stop.

Redracer77 · 18 Jan 2007, 23:59 (Ref:1818938)

Mackmot, you can't be happy with Chris Holmes comment in Autosport today?

runshaw · 19 Jan 2007, 08:33 (Ref:1819118)

Why what did Chris Holmes say?

Go_For_Pole · 19 Jan 2007, 10:03 (Ref:1819187)

@strider: you have been warned but since you insist

http://www.4tsafetrack.gr/el/meg/

and also on board video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHRv3...elated&search=

Seriously, we do have a better circuit in north Greece at Serres.
http://www.airphotos.gr/racetrack.htm

JohnMiller · 20 Jan 2007, 11:13 (Ref:1820162)

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Originally Posted by Redracer77

If you had read the Formula Ford regulations then you will see that Zetec is still very much part of UK Formula Ford in 2007.

Where are the 2007 regs published?

runshaw · 20 Jan 2007, 15:06 (Ref:1820352)

In this week's autosport Zetec racer Lucy Wardrop is planning a club Zetec series catering for around 20-24 cars. There is a possibility of joining UK FF at Brands and Silverstone during the year. Callum Macleod has switched from FBMW to FF with Jamun this year and Roger Orgee is doing CombeFF1600 with the aim of doing UKFF in 2008. Nice to see FBMW racers realising that FF is a better entry level formula.

gixxer · 20 Jan 2007, 18:05 (Ref:1820415)

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Originally Posted by Redracer77

please can you start another thread for F3 and leave this as a UK Formula Ford thread

think that was my fault i mentioned F3

**bella** · 20 Jan 2007, 22:25 (Ref:1820552)

bah, i don't like splitting threads because i think it destroys the natural evolution of the conversation. but yeah, i'll do something magic tomorrow.

sometimes with these things it's too difficult to pick conversations apart, but iirc it's fairly simple here.

and anyway, what are you lot doing in here, i thought you didn't like primadonna spindlies

Lightning Bug · 23 Jan 2007, 17:23 (Ref:1823924)

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Originally Posted by bella

wait, you could be onto something. you could have a 6 week formula 3 championship - a couple of races each weekend. each team travels between the circuits without returning to base, supported by a full factory of spares in the space of a couple of trucks, and the circus starts at jerez, then goes round spain, across france to monaco in the middle of the series, then works its way down to italy

Has Bella suddenly found a job organising Spanish F3? This has just appeared on italiaracing.net

Fiat and GTSport, the organizer of the Spanish Formula 3, announced today a partnership that will bring Abarth engines on all championship's cars. This year, due to lack of time, the field will run rebadged versions of the old Toyota engines, while in 2008 new units will be developed by Piedrafita Sport. The company is rumored to use as a starting base the Alfa Romeo Twin Spark 2 liters seen on the WTCC Alfa 156. Fiat's interest in the Spanish Formula 3 caught many by surprise, and is the preview of an huge forthcoming project. The idea is to start a South European Formula 3 champ in 2008, involving Spain (that will continue to have its own series), Greece, France, Portugal and Italy. An alternative to the F.3 Euro Series, dominated by Mercedes and focused on northern Europe.

ss_collins · 23 Jan 2007, 19:10 (Ref:1824010)

that sounds really interesting - wonder what teams / cars it will attract. Plus a new F3 motor. I assume that the new series will be for current FIA spec cars.

Go_For_Pole · 23 Jan 2007, 22:56 (Ref:1824173)

Bella, the prophet

although she missed the Greece part

Seriously, it's an excellent idea and I am sure teams and drivers from Italy, Greece and Portugal will embrace it with open arms. We definatelly are very close in mendality, we love our motorsport and under the organisation of a serious promoter it could a big hit. Here's hoping

**bella** · 23 Jan 2007, 23:09 (Ref:1824191)

bar stands.

i'll charge 'em consultancy fees for that!

lovebritF3 · 28 Jan 2007, 20:39 (Ref:1828071)

formula ford cant be beaten for racing, and as a crowd pleaser.

a few top team bosses have said that FF is a great place to learn and a perfect first step out of karting.

look at ADR, supposedly setting up a two car FF team along side their F3 team
and running the spectrum chassis

hotwheels · 31 Jan 2007, 20:17 (Ref:1830547)

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Originally Posted by Lightning Bug

Fiat and GTSport, the organizer of the Spanish Formula 3, announced today a partnership that will bring Abarth engines on all championship's cars. This year, due to lack of time, the field will run rebadged versions of the old Toyota engines, while in 2008 new units will be developed by Piedrafita Sport. The company is rumored to use as a starting base the Alfa Romeo Twin Spark 2 liters seen on the WTCC Alfa 156. Fiat's interest in the Spanish Formula 3 caught many by surprise, and is the preview of an huge forthcoming project. The idea is to start a South European Formula 3 champ in 2008, involving Spain (that will continue to have its own series), Greece, France, Portugal and Italy. An alternative to the F.3 Euro Series, dominated by Mercedes and focused on northern Europe.

Remember that they will lost the F1 test with Toyota for the championship winner. It is not so good as it looks after all...

Lightning Bug · 1 Feb 2007, 09:13 (Ref:1830872)

True, but which F1 team are Fiat most closely associated with...

Go_For_Pole · 1 Feb 2007, 10:13 (Ref:1830917)

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Originally Posted by Lightning Bug

True, but which F1 team are Fiat most closely associated with...

...and if a Ferrari test is too much to ask, they could also arrange it a Ferrari powered team

ss_collins · 2 Feb 2007, 17:10 (Ref:1832027)

Back to Formula ford, whatchassis are out there, VD, Aquila, Spectrum, Spirit, Mygale, Getem, Swift - anything else?

JohnMiller · 2 Feb 2007, 18:39 (Ref:1832089)

Ray?

ss_collins · 2 Feb 2007, 20:21 (Ref:1832139)

when was the last new car from them I'm a bit out of touch

goughy · 4 Feb 2007, 11:40 (Ref:1833147)

Ray have been producing cars every year. Last year Ray won at least 6 races I can think of in UK Formula Ford and won in FF1600. They were certainly more succesful than VD!

Gaz · 4 Feb 2007, 12:49 (Ref:1833177)

I think Van Diemen are going to struggle to achieve anything next year now that JLR have pulled the plug on Formula Ford. It would be a real shame if this was to be the case as VD have been a linchpin of Formula Ford for so long but it seems that since Comtec switched formulae VD have never quite achieved the same successes.

With the prize announced by Mygale this week of a subsidised F3 drive for the top Mygale driver in the championship this year I think everyone's going to be scrabbling for that chassis now.

Hope the Ray cars perform like last year as it was fantastic to see a small manufacturer being so succesful and with Nick Tandy on board again I think they've got a real fighting chance.