BTCC 2024 News & Rumours

[Mike Harte]

There seems to be a serious misunderstanding here because the post that is being discussed is what S. Griffin wrote, i.e. he was hoping that Team Dynamics would be on the grid next year. Someone then replied that they could return by using/borrowing one or more TBLs that belong to those listed by TOCA, and, this is the important bit which some seem to have confused, that they could do so the same as Team Hard did this year.

So following posts have misunderstood and the authors have replied by writing about Team Hard who I think are highly unlikely to be seen on the BTCC paddocks, certainly not for some time. However, there might well be a possibility of Team Dynamics returning if they have all their ducks in a row, although I have absolutely no idea whether they even wish to return to the series.

[FIRE]

I think it's highly unlikely both Hard and Dynamics return on the BTCC grid.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by FIRE

I think it's highly unlikely both Hard and Dynamics return on the BTCC grid.

Unless Dynamics run as a subcontractor from their existing dormant workshop?

[Millvi]

Jack Butel with news incoming for 2024 on his social media….

“2024 announcement coming soon!

Stay tuned. Safe to say, I’m very excited!”

[coffinpilot]

I wonder if Dynamics will go back to TCR UK, the last minute pull out for last season won't put them off if the funds and cars are available. If the likes of RBR and Area are making a decent profit on each car they run then I think they might appear.
Just not with the Lynk & Co deal that dropped at the last minute last year.

[sceptic]

Originally Posted by redshoes

I don't think TOCA have ever public stated what the initial cost of the TBL was, or if there even was a cost. My assumption has always been that at best it was a nominal value, something like £1.

I agree.
And specifically I think there was always a rule that the TBL returned to TOCA's ownership in the event of the team ceasing to exist, so it could never be used as an asset.

[SSmith]

Originally Posted by Millvi

Jack Butel with news incoming for 2024 on his social media….

“2024 announcement coming soon!

Stay tuned. Safe to say, I’m very excited!”

If its a BTCC drive rather than a potential return to GT racing, then I could imagine him fitting in at Restart Racing. He knows the Cupra, he was teammates with Smiley at EXCELR8 in 2021, and could bring the backers Restart Racing needs.

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by SSmith

If its a BTCC drive rather than a potential return to GT racing

With the greatest respect… I hope it’s the latter

[Matt_123]

Originally Posted by Evantra

With the greatest respect… I hope it’s the latter

yh glad someone said this coz i didnt want to sound mean but i hope butel goes somewhere else for 2024 because hes not been good enough for btcc in each and every season he's been in

[Ant25]

Could team dynamics be using the 1CBM and 2 moffets tbls to make a come back and getting announced at autosport show or could we see another new team join?

[ACF_]

Originally Posted by Matt_123

yh glad someone said this coz i didnt want to sound mean but i hope butel goes somewhere else for 2024 because hes not been good enough for btcc in each and every season he's been in

Hi, I'm new here. I completely agree. I'm hoping that Nic Hamilton or Dan Lloyd will be in the second seat at Restart Racing

[ACF_]

Originally Posted by Ant25

Could team dynamics be using the 1CBM and 2 moffets tbls to make a come back and getting announced at autosport show or could we see another new team join?

Good call. Or could Graves Motorsport be joining? They did say they were hoping to join at some point.

[Matt_123]

Originally Posted by ACF_

Hi, I'm new here. I completely agree. I'm hoping that Nic Hamilton or Dan Lloyd will be in the second seat at Restart Racing

hi, welcome
I think if its any of the HARD drivers it'll be either Lloyd or Dexter Patterson, im not sure Hamilton has either the budget or Restart cant afford to make the moderations for him.

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by ACF_

Hi, I'm new here. I completely agree. I'm hoping that Nic Hamilton or Dan Lloyd will be in the second seat at Restart Racing

Welcome

Didn’t seem like Lloyd was in the running from the Autosport article, he didn’t seem all that confident on a seat at all at the moment.

Wasn’t Hamilton linked with Speedworks before? Perhaps I made that up or it was just rumours rather than any serious discussions, but I suppose they’ve got an extra seat going for next year now.

[AnnoyedMoose]

Didn't someone post that Hamilton has already said he won't be in the BTCC next year?

[SV8Predator]

Originally Posted by Matt_123

Hamilton has either the budget or Restart cant afford to make the moderations for him.

Why do you post stuff like this?

You have no idea what budget Hamilton has.

You have no idea what Restart can afford.

[ACF_]

Originally Posted by Matt_123

hi, welcome
I think if its any of the HARD drivers it'll be either Lloyd or Dexter Patterson, im not sure Hamilton has either the budget or Restart cant afford to make the moderations for him.

if one of the 2 cars that Restart have bought is Hamilton's, there won't be any extra costs involved, because everything he needs is already fitted to the car.

[mphplastering]

Originally Posted by AnnoyedMoose

Didn't someone post that Hamilton has already said he won't be in the BTCC next year?

Correct nic went on Instagram live other week and said he won't be on the btcc grid 2024

[SSmith]

Originally Posted by Evantra

Wasn’t Hamilton linked with Speedworks before? Perhaps I made that up or it was just rumours rather than any serious discussions, but I suppose they’ve got an extra seat going for next year now.

He was rumoured I think in late-2021 but it was nothing more than rumours. As others have said, Nic won't be on the BTCC 2024 grid.

On the subject of the 4th Speedworks TBL, if it is used I would think that there are probably lots of interested parties in that drive

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by AnnoyedMoose

Didn't someone post that Hamilton has already said he won't be in the BTCC next year?

Someone also said he was going to Motorbase in 2024 on the strength that he was seen in the Motorbase Garage…..

[ACF_]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Someone also said he was going to Motorbase in 2024 on the strength that he was seen in the Motorbase Garage…..

I'm sure I read somewhere recently, that he's determined to get on the grid in '24 & he's been with Motorbase/Alliance before, so that would make sense, but who would he replace? Or would they extend the team?

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by ACF_

I'm sure I read somewhere recently, that he's determined to get on the grid in '24 & he's been with Motorbase/Alliance before, so that would make sense.

Except there are no vacancies. ….. I know this is the rumours listing but some are just plain daft

[ACF_]

Originally Posted by SSmith

He was rumoured I think in late-2021 but it was nothing more than rumours. As others have said, Nic won't be on the BTCC 2024 grid.

On the subject of the 4th Speedworks TBL, if it is used I would think that there are probably lots of interested parties in that drive

Bobby Thompson would be my guess for the 4th TBL if they use it. If not I'm thinking he'll go to Restart alongside Smiley.

[SSmith]

Originally Posted by ACF_

Bobby Thompson would be my guess for the 4th TBL if they use it. If not I'm thinking he'll go to Restart alongside Smiley.

Thompson has a good group of people around him so it'll be interesting to see where he ends up (if he's on the grid at all).

Rob Huff is likely top of Speedworks' list following his recent test with them but it all depends on the commercial package driver and team can put together

[AnnoyedMoose]

Originally Posted by SV8Predator

Why do you post stuff like this?

You have no idea what budget Hamilton has.

You have no idea what Restart can afford.

Plus it's not like it costs a fortune to put a remote brake servo, extended pedals and a custom seat into one of these cars. A set of tyres would cost more.