[WEC] LMP Future Regulations (was Le Mans EVO rules - now hypercar rules)

[Simmi]

Yeah there was a 5.2 sec jump from top of Test Day to top of Hyperpole last year.

Alpine are 40 hp down on last year's LM spec and they've got less energy (sorry - can't find exact amount in MJ) they can use across a stint. So stands to reason they are a bit slower with no development. Albeit I'm sure they are soft pedalling a bit.

[Aysedasi]

The track was also (obviously) very green yesterday.

Originally Posted by Simmi

Albeit I'm sure they are soft pedalling a bit.

If they had any sense they were....

[Mike E]

Some thoughts on the future from Kaz Nakajima

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...en-and-e-fuels

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Mike E

Some thoughts on the future from Kaz Nakajima

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...en-and-e-fuels

Interesting notes on the new Hypercar being more friendly to drive than the current model.

[TF110]

The hydrogen combustion engine is something I hope goes forward with Toyota pushing it.

[veeten]

... and now, that the last LMP1 has been consigned to the dust bin, the teams and manufacturers can, and have, moved on to LMH/LMDh.
If you think about it, Oreca, Multimatic, and Leiger are now in the same situation as Dallara, Dome, Courage and other chassis manufacturers were in the late 90's/ early 2000's. Being in the main class with major auto manufacturers supplying the engines. The only difference is the inclusion of Hybrid power as a standard unit, rather than an additional price point.

[tomcug]

https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/b...-for-lmdh-use/
Some notes on BMW's engine choice.

[veeten]

Good choice. The M8 GTE engine was too big to use, and the previous DTM engine was not easily able to be adapted for use in LMDh. So, they chose an earlier version of the DTM engine and went for forced induction to make more power. And, it fits the engine bay in the chassis. Not bad.
Looking forward to the testing runs, should provide some good results.

[hondafan37]

This is the BOP for Monza



https://www.endurance-info.com/node/102968

[Mike E]

Lower hybrid activation speed for Peugeot because of their tyre sizes?

[joeb]

Originally Posted by hondafan37

This is the BOP for Monza



https://www.endurance-info.com/node/102968

Interesting that Toyota picked up a single kg since spa. what is that for?

Originally Posted by Mike E

Lower hybrid activation speed for Peugeot because of their tyre sizes?

I couldn't think of a reason but that makes sense. Was the ACO ever invited to a Peugeot test to collect data on this car?

[deggis]

Originally Posted by Mike E

Lower hybrid activation speed for Peugeot because of their tyre sizes?

It is.

From March: https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...-to-tire-size/

[NaBUru38]

Originally Posted by TF110

The hydrogen combustion engine is something I hope goes forward with Toyota pushing it.

Combustion engines are inefficient, period.

[Mike E]

I like the way Hypercar power has crept up from the original 670hp to 715hp for the Glickenhaus. That's a decent gap to the 540hp of LMP2.

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...geots-arrival/

[TF110]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

Combustion engines are inefficient, period.

I like that they are tying together new and old and it's not another big battery for no emissions. The sounds of an ice are an important part of racing imo. Which is another reason I hope they push forward with it.

[Matador]

ACO Unveils New Hydrogen Concept






"The Automobile Club de l’Ouest has unveiled a new electric-hydrogen prototype concept car as part of its Mission H24 project, set to take to the track in January 2025. The as yet unnamed car is the third to be built as part of the ACO’s ongoing push to incorporate hydrogen technology at the 24 Hours of Le Mans, with plans to introduce an all-hydrogen class beginning in 2026."

Originally Posted by TF110

The hydrogen combustion engine is something I hope goes forward with Toyota pushing it.

Was browsing through this thread to see if it made sense to post the Mission H24 link and saw this post. Realized that the News on Toyota's H24 concept wasn't dropped here so.....

Toyota has revealed a hydrogen prototype racing concept and expressed strong interest in the FIA World Endurance Championship’s future hydrogen class.

The Japanese manufacturer has built cars to the LMP1 and LMH regulations but is now looking towards the championship’s vision for increased sustainability through hydrogen power.


According to Toyota, the concept car has been developed with “competition in its sights” and that its unveiling was “spurred” by the ACO recently announcing that internal combustion engine hydrogen vehicles can compete alongside fuel-cell electric cars.

[Matador]

So according to sportscar365 apparently LMDh Cars will now have Evo jokers available

Last month’s prototype convergence meeting ratified the adoption of so-called ‘EVO jokers’ to the LMDh platform, mirroring the re-homologation process used in LMH since its introduction in 2021. Each manufacturer is permitted to use up to five jokers through the homologation period, which is currently set to 2027 for both platforms.

[veeten]

Well, considering that LMDh started racing this year, LMH has a 2year head start when it comes to in-season upgrades on their chassis.

[Adam43]

And LMDh had two extra years development without using any jokers. Which sounds better. Probably just swings and roundabouts.

Compared to those that were already homologated from the start, obviously.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by Matador

So according to sportscar365 apparently LMDh Cars will now have Evo jokers available

The French team needed it lol. They're not good enough to BoP in properly.

[TF110]

Looks like the hydrogen class is pushed back until 2027 at the earliest.