BTCC 2014 BTCC speculation, rumours and news - Page 33

Bramzel · 18 Nov 2013, 11:30 (Ref:3333011)

Couldn't this be Adam Morgans old chassis?

porsche962fan · 18 Nov 2013, 11:31 (Ref:3333012)

3 speedworks cars ... maybe their results will finally start to improve

TimRTC · 18 Nov 2013, 11:58 (Ref:3333023)

I hope Belcher runs with that livery - looked good on a Clio, will look great on a touring car.

thetool · 18 Nov 2013, 12:08 (Ref:3333026)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

3 speedworks cars ... maybe their results will finally start to improve

The biggest limiting factor on Speedworks results have been the drivers. Look how well the car went when someone with a bit of experience got in it.

P7 in qualifying at Knockhill with Paul O'Neill, followed by two sixths and fourth in the races - and Paul's not exactly a world-class driver like Thompson or Giovanardi for example.

With the right drivers Speedworks would be right up at the front.

auroan · 18 Nov 2013, 12:39 (Ref:3333037)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

I just took it to mean they'd be back for more. I was watching on YouTube and didn't hear Martin say that.

It was during the eurosport commentary. Think it was in race 1 or qualy.

Craner Curves · 18 Nov 2013, 12:40 (Ref:3333038)

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Originally Posted by thetool

The biggest limiting factor on Speedworks results have been the drivers. Look how well the car went when someone with a bit of experience got in it.

P7 in qualifying at Knockhill with Paul O'Neill, followed by two sixths and fourth in the races - and Paul's not exactly a world-class driver like Thompson or Giovanardi for example.

With the right drivers Speedworks would be right up at the front.

I also think the right engineer makes a massive difference. Speedworks has some issues with that this year. Whereas Adam Morgan got it spot on with his engineer with basically the same cars. The Speedworks machines were always very oversteery and couldn't get heat into the rears.

Craner Curves · 18 Nov 2013, 13:48 (Ref:3333070)

Been confirmed it's a car Speedworks had in their possession. So surely must be the test car.

davyboy · 18 Nov 2013, 14:27 (Ref:3333087)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Been confirmed it's a car Speedworks had in their possession. So surely must be the test car.

This is what Inside BTCC have posted on Facebook.

" To clarify some reports elsewhere, the car that Simon Belcher plans to use is 2014 is an ex-Speedworks chassis - the team had three in its possession.

It isn't the car raced by either Adam Morgan or Frank Wrathall in 2013. "

Sodemo · 18 Nov 2013, 14:29 (Ref:3333089)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

I also think the right engineer makes a massive difference. Speedworks has some issues with that this year. Whereas Adam Morgan got it spot on with his engineer with basically the same cars. The Speedworks machines were always very oversteery and couldn't get heat into the rears.

Could also be front aero. If I recall, the front air splitters were different on the Speedworks and Ciceley cars.

Inside BTCC · 18 Nov 2013, 14:42 (Ref:3333095)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Been confirmed it's a car Speedworks had in their possession. So surely must be the test car.

I understand the 'test car' was one of the cars raced last year. Its not been confirmed which chassis Belcher will use.

porsche962fan · 18 Nov 2013, 16:21 (Ref:3333160)

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Originally Posted by Inside BTCC

I understand the 'test car' was one of the cars raced last year. Its not been confirmed which chassis Belcher will use.

does this actually matter in the end which chassis it is ???? this cars surelly get reworked over the winter

either way we are looking potentially at 5 Toyotas on the grid if Wrathall returns and Morgan one finds a new owner (Lea Wood or someone else)

Craner Curves · 18 Nov 2013, 17:01 (Ref:3333176)

It's a curiosity thing. Better than making up rubbish rumours.

psq43 · 18 Nov 2013, 18:24 (Ref:3333221)

Whether Wrathall returns or not isn't really within his own hands, his sponsors hands, or anything really connected at the moment.

TestTeam01 · 19 Nov 2013, 02:36 (Ref:3333408)

I ve been informed that both Wrathels and Morgans cars are in the process of or already have been purchased by an established GT team from the North.....

thetool · 19 Nov 2013, 03:09 (Ref:3333422)

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Originally Posted by TestTeam01

I ve been informed that both Wrathels and Morgans cars are in the process of or already have been purchased by an established GT team from the North.....

You mean United Autosports?

TestTeam01 · 19 Nov 2013, 03:24 (Ref:3333427)

Apparently so.....well that's if what I've been told is true!

Jiiiiiiim · 19 Nov 2013, 10:02 (Ref:3333526)

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Originally Posted by TestTeam01

I ve been informed that both Wrathels and Morgans cars are in the process of or already have been purchased by an established GT team from the North.....

I believe they were in contact with Dynojet earlier in the season & the rumour surfaced then, so wouldn't be surprised if they had concluded a deal!

davyboy · 19 Nov 2013, 14:16 (Ref:3333649)

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Originally Posted by psq43

Whether Wrathall returns or not isn't really within his own hands, his sponsors hands, or anything really connected at the moment.

Yes, there's that somewhat rather more serious issue to deal with as well. Without getting into the details of the case, do we know when it's due to recommence... and conclude ?

Craner Curves · 19 Nov 2013, 15:50 (Ref:3333679)

It's January I think.

I wonder if UA will go for gentlemen drivers or young prospects.

I'll give someone a virtual point if they can tell me the last time Richard Dean was rumoured to be involved in the BTCC.

thetool · 19 Nov 2013, 16:02 (Ref:3333684)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

I'll give someone a virtual point if they can tell me the last time Richard Dean was rumoured to be involved in the BTCC.

He was supposed to be racing TMSR's pair of Lexus IS200s in 2002 alongside Steve Sutcliffe (Autocar journo).

Craner Curves · 19 Nov 2013, 16:18 (Ref:3333692)

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Originally Posted by thetool

He was supposed to be racing TMSR's pair of Lexus IS200s in 2002 alongside Steve Sutcliffe (Autocar journo).

Bingo

**FIRE** · 19 Nov 2013, 17:47 (Ref:3333742)

A silly season topic without mentioning the Total Motorsport Lexus' isn't a silly season topic.

Jiiiiiiim · 19 Nov 2013, 20:20 (Ref:3333856)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

A silly season topic without mentioning the Total Motorsport Lexus' isn't a silly season topic.

Well we've had the Gio reference, the Total Motorsport Lexus' all that's missing is a Vic Lee type funding rumour

psq43 · 19 Nov 2013, 21:36 (Ref:3333901)

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Originally Posted by Jiiiiiiim

Well we've had the Gio reference, the Total Motorsport Lexus' all that's missing is a Vic Lee type funding rumour

Next team that heads overseas to test is gonna get that honour

Bramzel · 20 Nov 2013, 07:42 (Ref:3334097)

Have we mentioned green Alfa's already? If not that void is filled now

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