BTCC BTCC 2022 season discussion, News and Rumours! - Page 34

Overboost · 15 Dec 2021, 11:35 (Ref:4089801)

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Originally Posted by medius

Big statement of intent. A Cammish/Hill pairing might Be the strongest lineup Motorbase has had since the S2000 days. Two potential title runners. Assuming Hill is coming back....

Hill will be Racing for a different team, but with the Jag/BMR/Sutton project falling apart, the current Champion is on the market looking for a ride.

Mike Harte · 15 Dec 2021, 11:42 (Ref:4089803)

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Originally Posted by antnee

Or with 2 great drivers, it means 2 lots of great feedback to push both cars further forward.

And still taking points off each other.

porsche962fan · 15 Dec 2021, 11:44 (Ref:4089804)

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Originally Posted by medius

Big statement of intent. A Cammish/Hill pairing might Be the strongest lineup Motorbase has had since the S2000 days. Two potential title runners. Assuming Hill is coming back....

would argue Motorbase had a strong lineup in 2014 Mat Jackson, Giovanardi and the promising Jack Clarke (whatever happened to him ?) but the car simply was not that great

porsche962fan · 15 Dec 2021, 11:48 (Ref:4089805)

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Originally Posted by Mike Harte

And still taking points off each other.

didn't hurt Turkington and Jordan as they finished 1-2 in the final standings

Pdh · 15 Dec 2021, 12:02 (Ref:4089808)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

would argue Motorbase had a strong lineup in 2014 Mat Jackson, Giovanardi and the promising Jack Clarke (whatever happened to him ?) but the car simply was not that great

2016 wasn’t to bad either with jackson and Jordan

Matt K · 15 Dec 2021, 12:23 (Ref:4089811)

Cammish should be a natural title contender next year. Exciting to see who's his teammate in NAPA Racing UK. If it's Sutton, then it seems like a great season for Motorbase is coming...

CroftPilgrim · 15 Dec 2021, 13:17 (Ref:4089818)

Sutton and Cammish at Motorbase would be an immense paring. Two of the best drivers in identical machinery? Bring it on!

Mike Harte · 15 Dec 2021, 15:17 (Ref:4089848)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

didn't hurt Turkington and Jordan as they finished 1-2 in the final standings

I assume you are referring to the 2019 season when just 2 points differentiated the two drivers, which allowed Cammish to finish on equal points to Jordan. I would argue that Jordan denied Turkington of points, and allowed Cammish to almost beat Jordan.

I stand by my thoughts that they could or would rob each other of points. From a spectators point of view it's great to see team mates competing, but in reality, from a team's point of view, it is usually better to have a really strong second driver to back up your number one and also to act as a rear gunner.

mprmke · 15 Dec 2021, 15:57 (Ref:4089863)

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Originally Posted by Mike Harte

I assume you are referring to the 2019 season when just 2 points differentiated the two drivers, which allowed Cammish to finish on equal points to Jordan. I would argue that Jordan denied Turkington of points, and allowed Cammish to almost beat Jordan.

I stand by my thoughts that they could or would rob each other of points. From a spectators point of view it's great to see team mates competing, but in reality, from a team's point of view, it is usually better to have a really strong second driver to back up your number one and also to act as a rear gunner.

Yes, agreed. Turkington would have walked the title that season were it not for Jordan.

Very difficult to get the blend of two drivers at a top team, as in a ideal world you want a "number two" driver to support your main man, and they need to be good enough to be up there to support him, and to win races for the team when your main man is pegged back, but it rarely works with two genuinely elite drivers who want to win/are realistically capable of winning the title.

Turkington and Collard were probably the best pairing. Turkington was genuinely elite and Collard wasn't too far off the pace and has been well in the title race at the halfway point in the season, but you always felt he would drop off towards the end with the ballast on and his generally sub-par qualifying performances, but he was always good enough to be up there not too far behind Turkington.

crmalcolm · 15 Dec 2021, 18:41 (Ref:4089919)

https://twitter.com/naparacinguk/sta...3cBDp3gSw&s=19

(Not so) subtle reference to 2021...

porsche962fan · 15 Dec 2021, 18:55 (Ref:4089920)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

https://twitter.com/naparacinguk/sta...3cBDp3gSw&s=19

(Not so) subtle reference to 2021...

which reference ?

crmalcolm · 15 Dec 2021, 19:19 (Ref:4089923)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

which reference ?

I guess it is subtle.

In the first half of the video, what is Dan doing? (Something he did in 2021)

With your username

porsche962fan · 15 Dec 2021, 19:27 (Ref:4089925)

you mean driving a Porsche ? well doesn't Plato drive a Porsche in real life too ? cos doesn't have to mean anythng

mprmke · 15 Dec 2021, 20:02 (Ref:4089933)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

you mean driving a Porsche ? well doesn't Plato drive a Porsche in real life too ? cos doesn't have to mean anythng

There was definitely meaning to that. You wouldn’t just reveal your new driver, showing him driving a random car to your garage for no reason…

It was definitely symbolic of him returning to BTCC from Porsche racing. I doubt they would show Sutton turning up in an Infinity though. Certainly not if Infinity will still have a presence in BTCC next season at least…

mark_l · 15 Dec 2021, 20:11 (Ref:4089938)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

you mean driving a Porsche ? well doesn't Plato drive a Porsche in real life too ? cos doesn't have to mean anythng

So does Tim Harvey

crmalcolm · 15 Dec 2021, 20:32 (Ref:4089946)

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Originally Posted by mprmke

There was definitely meaning to that. You wouldn’t just reveal your new driver, showing him driving a random car to your garage for no reason…

Agreed - and it seemed even more than that.
It included DanCam driving a Porsche whilst listening to BTCC races, then stepping out of the car and into NAPA....

If it wasn't intended, the allegory seemed fairly strong.

And with that announcement, the publicly confirmed drives (in green) reaches six with no Jack Sears-eliglble entries (yet):

Moneyseeker · 15 Dec 2021, 20:32 (Ref:4089947)

I presume the connection to NAPA is via Osborne's tool distribution business?

Spanner monkey · 15 Dec 2021, 20:48 (Ref:4089954)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

you mean driving a Porsche ? well doesn't Plato drive a Porsche in real life too ? cos doesn't have to mean anythng

Dan would get a Porsche for a year for winning the championship.

Alfisti · 15 Dec 2021, 23:09 (Ref:4089973)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

Are you expecting the field to be any less competitive next year?

I would suspect the field may be more competitive if anything. New engine package/ hybrid gear will leave everyone at square one trying to find ways to outperform the opposition.

I'd also reckon HARD will be most likely to be just in front of the Doctors car on the opening lap... the HARD finance model gets cars on a grid, but demonstrates a total lack of ambition.

I wouldn't bet against Ash Sutton winning, whatever he may be driving, the lad has a gift.

Alfisti · 15 Dec 2021, 23:14 (Ref:4089974)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

you mean driving a Porsche ? well doesn't Plato drive a Porsche in real life too ? cos doesn't have to mean anythng

So do I, but I can guarantee you won't find my grumpy arthritic dithering self on a race car grid anywhere!

Millvi · 16 Dec 2021, 09:46 (Ref:4090026)

Autosport magazine mentioning Ollie Jackson and Sam Osborne returning to drive the Ford Focus for 2022.

And there’s serious hints about another big name driver joining Dan Cam as well. Who else could that be other than Ash Sutton….?

Robshillito1990 · 16 Dec 2021, 09:51 (Ref:4090027)

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Originally Posted by Millvi

Autosport magazine mentioning Ollie Jackson and Sam Osborne returning to drive the Ford Focus for 2022.

And there’s serious hints about another big name driver joining Dan Cam as well. Who else could that be other than Ash Sutton….?

Depends who you class as a big name these days. Is Plato still a big name within btcc?

Millvi · 16 Dec 2021, 10:01 (Ref:4090029)

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Originally Posted by Robshillito1990

Depends who you class as a big name these days. Is Plato still a big name within btcc?

Exact wording is “…established BTCC top-line driver.”

So could cover Plato in my opinion. But hints and rumours pointing to Ash.

I recall mention of some hint from Plato about his possible destination for 2022 but not aware of what was said.

Sodemo · 16 Dec 2021, 10:09 (Ref:4090031)

I heard a rumour some time back about a new RWD car on the grid for 2022. Is that likely?

Matt K · 16 Dec 2021, 10:14 (Ref:4090033)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

I heard a rumour some time back about a new RWD car on the grid for 2022. Is that likely?

Probably not. I guess there was something about it within BMR circles but apparently it's failed.

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