BTCC BTCC 2022 season discussion, News and Rumours! - Page 35

GregoryDG · 16 Dec 2021, 10:31 (Ref:4090038)

What are the chances of Sam Tordoff returning to the championship?

billy bleach · 16 Dec 2021, 10:37 (Ref:4090041)

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Originally Posted by GregoryDG

What are the chances of Sam Tordoff returning to the championship?

Or Andrew Jordan, both former Motorbase drivers

Millvi · 16 Dec 2021, 10:59 (Ref:4090051)

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Originally Posted by billy bleach

Or Andrew Jordan, both former Motorbase drivers

Chilton?

porsche962fan · 16 Dec 2021, 11:08 (Ref:4090054)

added Ollie Jackson at Motorbase

Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Gordon Shedden ??
Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Dan Rowbotten
Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Matt Neal ?????

Honda Civic - BTC Racing - Josh Cook ????
Honda Civic - BTC Racing - Jade Edwards ??
Honda Civic - BTC Racing - Michael Crees ??
Honda Civic - BTC Racing - Senna Proctor ??

BMW 330 - WSR - Colin Turkington ?
BMW 330 - WSR - Sthephen Jelley ??
BMW 330 - WSR - ????

BMW 330 - Ciceley - Adam Morgan
BMW 330 - Ciceley - ????

Hyundai I30 - EXCELR8 Motorsport - Tom Ingram
Hyundai I30 - EXCELR8 Motorsport - ????
Hyundai I30 - EXCELR8 Motorsport - ????
Hyundai I30 - EXCELR8 Motorsport - ????

Ford Focus - Motorbase (NAPA) - Dan Cammish
Ford Focus - Motorbase (NAPA) - ????
Ford Focus - Motorbase - Sam Osborne
Ford Focus - Motorbase - Ollie Jackson

Toyota Corolla - Speedworks - Rory Butcher ????
Toyota Corolla - Speedworks - ????
Toyota Corolla - Speedworks - ????

Cupra Leon - HARD - Jack Goff
Cupra Leon - HARD - Aron Taylor Smith
Cupra Leon - HARD - ?????

Vauxhall Astra ??? - PMR - ????
Vauxhall Astra ??? - PMR - ????

Infiniti Q50 ??? - Aiden Moffat Racing - Aiden Moffat
Infiniti Q50 ??? - Aiden Moffat Racing - Ash Sutton ???

Infiniti Q50 ??? - Boardley Motorsport - ?????
Infiniti Q50 ??? - Boardley Motorsport - ?????

Millvi · 16 Dec 2021, 11:25 (Ref:4090056)

Autosport wording is Osborne and Ollie Jackson “expected” to return to Motorbase. Is that enough to add without a single “?” Do you think? Unsure of the ??? or ?? or ? criteria….

porsche962fan · 16 Dec 2021, 11:41 (Ref:4090059)

Osborne his dad is boss at Motorbase ... Ollie Jackson is now for years at them , can't see him moving somehwere else

antnee · 16 Dec 2021, 12:29 (Ref:4090065)

Doesn't Jackson's family have some involvement too? Through Mountune?

mprmke · 16 Dec 2021, 12:50 (Ref:4090068)

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Originally Posted by antnee

Doesn't Jackson's family have some involvement too? Through Mountune?

Yes.

Osborne & Jackson at Motorbase are the biggest shoo-ins in the BTCC. The drive is theirs if they want it.

Matt K · 16 Dec 2021, 12:51 (Ref:4090069)

I love how people make a great fuss about these tables.. whose is better, why one question mark instead of two, what's the difference between three and two, why someone without it and someone with... It's really amusing, thanks for fun.
I missed it

antnee · 16 Dec 2021, 13:21 (Ref:4090079)

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Originally Posted by Matt K

I love how people make a great fuss about these tables.. whose is better, why one question mark instead of two, what's the difference between three and two, why someone without it and someone with... It's really amusing, thanks for fun.
I missed it

Some might say its more entertaining than the racing

Matt K · 16 Dec 2021, 13:27 (Ref:4090083)

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Originally Posted by antnee

Some might say its more entertaining than the racing

Yes, especially as BTCC is sooo boring... Yet interesting enough to write about the fact regularly

S griffin · 16 Dec 2021, 14:25 (Ref:4090094)

I do enjoy hearing the latest rumours, keeps us interested for the new season, even if half of them don't happen! Especially those that we were looking forward to happening

Matt K · 16 Dec 2021, 15:26 (Ref:4090111)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

I do enjoy hearing the latest rumours, keeps us interested for the new season, even if half of them don't happen! Especially those that we were looking forward to happening

Same here, it makes me more excited for the upcoming season

Sunbeam347 · 16 Dec 2021, 15:31 (Ref:4090113)

The rumours are great, as it builds excitement for the new season. I think the switch to hybrid may turn a lot of things on their head, hopefully.

Alfisti · 16 Dec 2021, 16:45 (Ref:4090127)

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Originally Posted by Robshillito1990

Depends who you class as a big name these days. Is Plato still a big name within btcc?

Only 5 letters. Not big. Not compared to Giovanardi!

porsche962fan · 16 Dec 2021, 17:04 (Ref:4090132)

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Originally Posted by Matt K

Yes, especially as BTCC is sooo boring... Yet interesting enough to write about the fact regularly

it was much much better during the S2000 days

Matt K · 16 Dec 2021, 17:10 (Ref:4090133)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

it was much much better during the S2000 days

Maybe it was, maybe the Super Touring era in the early-to-mid-90s was even better (I can't remember it but watching the YT stuff it seems it was super exciting) but I don't think we can really complain. Past eras always seem better because left in a rear view mirror they get romanticised and so on. But the current product is still very good, however, I must say S2000 cars were better-looking than current NGTC ones. Of course, nothing is ideal, I'd love BTCC to scrap all performance-equalising measures for example and I'm not blinded so don't get those who feel offended when someone dares to criticise something.
But, I must say BTCC is a great championship and there's only one-two motor racing series apart from it that I like similarly.

crmalcolm · 16 Dec 2021, 17:18 (Ref:4090135)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

it was much much better during the S2000 days

Racing was even better in circa 100BC....

Those chariots were piloted by proper racers.

I digress though - this is a thread about the 2022 season, not 2002, 1992 or even 1962 (when things were better

). A few more announcements are planned for before Christmas, but not as many as last year.

porsche962fan · 16 Dec 2021, 17:20 (Ref:4090136)

the main problem now is the cars are too fragile , specially to side contact and the rules which prevent push to pass make the races duller

crmalcolm · 16 Dec 2021, 17:21 (Ref:4090137)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

the main problem now is the cars are too fragile , specially to side contact and the rules which prevent push to pass make the races duller

Nobody is obliged to watch....

But I fear we are heading down a 'how to fix BTCC' thread here, when it is one of the healthiest championships going, and even had to expand whilst COVID-19 is still impacting things

To turn this back to 2022, can things be so bad if we've gone back to a 32-car grid?

porsche962fan · 16 Dec 2021, 17:24 (Ref:4090140)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Nobody is obliged to watch....

nobody is forced to complain about others not blindly swallow the product either

Mike Harte · 16 Dec 2021, 17:37 (Ref:4090146)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

nobody is forced to complain about others not blindly swallow the product either

If you want to watch push to pass, as you say that the BTCC is poorer for stamping it out, then might I suggest you turn your attention to something like the UK's stock car racing where it is allowed and even encouraged.

You do appear to have forgotten that the UK's circuit racing is explicitly a no-contact sport, and deliberately "bashing" or tapping a car to get past used to end up with the car a being immediately black flagged and usually disqualified from the meeting with points on the driver's licence.

It has no place in the type of motor racing that most of us on here enjoy.

porsche962fan · 16 Dec 2021, 17:43 (Ref:4090149)

but look at result,

we have very boring races 1 cos everone is too afraid to do any real moves cos it would ruin their entire weekends and we have situations when a driver can be stuck a whole race behind another cos the rules make it too easy to defend and we end up with processions

Mike Harte · 16 Dec 2021, 17:54 (Ref:4090150)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

but look at result,

we have very boring races 1 cos everone is too afraid to do any real moves cos it would ruin their entire weekends and we have situations when a driver can be stuck a whole race behind another cos the rules amke it too easy to defend and we end up with processions

Then just go a watch stock car racing, and leave the rest of us to enjoy the BTCC. In my opinion, the series is far richer for it being non-contact and the cream of the crop rise to the top, and always will given the opportunity.

Just look at how many winners there were this year, and I think that virtually every one of them managed passes on other cars without the need to push them out the way.

I would also say that the drivers try to follow cars in front far too closely which actually makes it harder to get past the car in front because the usually have to either brake fractionally or come off the throttle momentarily to allow themselves space to turn around the car in front.

It also means that, on circuits that have tyre stacks, you end up have a chain of cars hitting them when the first in line bangs in to them. This was blindingly obvious at Croft, for example, earlier this year in the Porsche, Ginetta and Mini races.

porsche962fan · 16 Dec 2021, 18:02 (Ref:4090151)

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Originally Posted by Mike Harte

Then just go a watch stock car racing, and leave the rest of us to enjoy the BTCC. In my opinion, the series is far richer for it being non-contact and the cream of the crop rise to the top, and always will given the opportunity.

it really robes your enjoyment if others don't fully subscribe to curent things ?

super touring days had much worse things than a slight tap to pass and still regarded of some of greatest era the sport ever had

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