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racer2_uk · 2 Feb 2006, 00:03 (Ref:1513907)

Hi Falcadore, do you have any idea which DJR sierra was sold to Gravett for his championship win ?

Andy Lloyd

Vanilla Dice · 2 Feb 2006, 01:23 (Ref:1513945)

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Originally Posted by racer2_uk

Hi Falcadore, do you have any idea which DJR sierra was sold to Gravett for his championship win ?

Andy Lloyd

I know...

DJR1 and DJR2, both built for the 1987 season as Cosworth RS cars and then upgraded to RS500 specification. Indeed one of them was converted to RHD.

The DJR squad was seriously nuts (whats changed

) at the time building a LHD chassis and a RHD chassis... thinking they could have advantages at different tracks

chavez · 2 Feb 2006, 11:25 (Ref:1514150)

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Originally Posted by Falcadore

Robb Gravett was sold a DJR Sierra which he used to win his BTCC title.

I thought the car used by Gravett to win his 1990 title was built by Trakstar -The ex DJR car which Gravett used in 1989 was run by Mike Smith at selected rounds in 1990.

chavez · 2 Feb 2006, 11:31 (Ref:1514152)

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Originally Posted by Nismo

Once the godzilla arrived on the scene in 1990, it virtually killed the RS500's into submission...

Of course the Sierra's record in Group A competition far surpasses that of the GTR.

Nismo · 2 Feb 2006, 14:36 (Ref:1514258)

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Originally Posted by chavez

Of course the Sierra's record in Group A competition far surpasses that of the GTR.

may be stats wise, they raced from when 87-1992? thats 6 seasons, but once the GTR was launched it totally anhilliated teh RS500's

Even the Auzzies became frightned of and called the GTR a Godzilla

so they brought an end to them and started racing huge tanks with pushrod based v8 engines...and solid axles lol

racer69 · 2 Feb 2006, 17:06 (Ref:1514328)

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Dice

The DJR squad was seriously nuts (whats changed ) at the time building a LHD chassis and a RHD chassis... thinking they could have advantages at different tracks .

DJR were not the first team to do this. Allan Moffat did it in 1982, he built his new RX7 (in addition to his RHD 1981 built car) in LHD especially for the races at Sandown and Bathurst, as the tracks 'went left'. Not only was it felt he would have a better view of the track line and corner wise, it was though with the drivers weight being over 'lightest' side of the car when cornering, it would help keep the wheels on the ground and the Mazda was forced to corner with alot zest.

Theorectically thinking what was nuts about that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by chavez

I thought the car used by Gravett to win his 1990 title was built by Trakstar -The ex DJR car which Gravett used in 1989 was run by Mike Smith at selected rounds in 1990.

The car Gravett used in 1990 to win the BTCC was a Trakstar built car, but the team did run two DJR-built cars in 1989, #20 for Gravett, #21 for Mike Smith, at every round of the championship.

The team battled for dollars in 1990 though, hence why Smith only did a few rounds.

Henry · 2 Feb 2006, 22:40 (Ref:1514529)

Quote:

Originally Posted by racer69

DJR were not the first team to do this. Allan Moffat did it in 1982, he built his new RX7 (in addition to his RHD 1981 built car) in LHD especially for the races at Sandown and Bathurst, as the tracks 'went left'. Not only was it felt he would have a better view of the track line and corner wise, it was though with the drivers weight being over 'lightest' side of the car when cornering, it would help keep the wheels on the ground and the Mazda was forced to corner with alot zest.

Theorectically thinking what was nuts about that?

The car Gravett used in 1990 to win the BTCC was a Trakstar built car, but the team did run two DJR-built cars in 1989, #20 for Gravett, #21 for Mike Smith, at every round of the championship.

The team battled for dollars in 1990 though, hence why Smith only did a few rounds.

Apparently Norm Beechey had contemplated adapting the Monaro to enable the swapping of driving position from right to left, depending on the track... didn't happen, but would've been interesting

racer2_uk · 2 Feb 2006, 23:03 (Ref:1514543)

Hi racer69, Trakstar did run 2 ex-DJR sierra's in the '89 BTCC, but Gravett used 21 and Smithy 20, in '90 Gravett used the new car and Smithy drove a few rounds with the new owner of the Gravett 21 car, Graham Hathaway.

Andy Lloyd

cavvy · 3 Feb 2006, 06:17 (Ref:1514608)

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Originally Posted by Henry

Apparently Norm Beechey had contemplated adapting the Monaro to enable the swapping of driving position from right to left, depending on the track... didn't happen, but would've been interesting

Sure you dont mean Peter Manton, the Mini king of the Neptune Racing Team & its derivations ... it did happen in the Mini I believe (?).

Moff had LHD & RHD versions of the RX7.

**GTRMagic** · 4 Feb 2006, 11:39 (Ref:1515370)

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Originally Posted by racer2_uk

Hi Steve Holmes, I was at Donington last year for the RS500 reunion, the cars there with an Australian connection were the Moffat / Rouse '87 Bathurst pole car, the Rouse / Brock car which is owned by Steve Matthias who races in the UK Ford saloon car championship in an escort cosworth, and I was in my DJR sierra number DJR 1, this is the car that was second at Bathurst in '88 and sold to Robb Gravett for the '89 BTCC.There was also a Texaco Eggenberger car which has a very good chance of racing in Australia at some point.
Many of the original drivers also turned out for a drive in their old cars.
Myself and Steve are hoping to get our cars in the Goodwood festival this year.

Andy Lloyd

The '87 polesitter was never a Brock car... but Moff's baby looks lonely sitting there doesnt it

Dead...

**GTRMagic** · 4 Feb 2006, 11:44 (Ref:1515376)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chavez

Of course the Sierra's record in Group A competition far surpasses that of the GTR.

The GT-R was only around for 1990, 1991 and 1992.. while the Sierra first saw life in 1986 and finished its life in 1992 as well....

... and won Spa in the process...

**GTRMagic** · 4 Feb 2006, 11:58 (Ref:1515385)

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Originally Posted by mtpanorama

I remember being at amaroo when Paul Pickett owned both those P O S and Jim Richard was entered to drive one of them. Jim went out in the car on the friday , did a couple of lap and came back into the pits and refused to ever get back into the car again. They would have to be the worst 2lt car ever built, just beating the aussie built corrollas

Yum Yum.....

racer69 · 4 Feb 2006, 16:53 (Ref:1515526)

Reading the latest MRA, anyone know the history of the VK Commodore that was driven by the Japanese drivers in the last round of the 1987 WTCC?

chavez · 4 Feb 2006, 20:50 (Ref:1515617)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

... and won Spa in the process...

In Group N spec, but not Group A.

**GTRMagic** · 4 Feb 2006, 23:30 (Ref:1515704)

Quote:

Originally Posted by racer69

Reading the latest MRA, anyone know the history of the VK Commodore that was driven by the Japanese drivers in the last round of the 1987 WTCC?

Ex-HDT perhaps? I always thought Mr Brock left his car behind when he raced at Fuji in 1986....

racer2_uk · 5 Feb 2006, 00:09 (Ref:1515715)

Hi, GTRMagic, sorry for being a little confusing, at Donington last year we had the '87 pole sitting Rouse/Moffat sierra and the Rouse/Brock car, i.e. 2 different cars.
The Rouse/Moffat ANZ car has been sold recently to an Australian buyer !

pete60 · 5 Feb 2006, 00:59 (Ref:1515728)

Quote:

Originally Posted by racer2_uk

Hi, GTRMagic, sorry for being a little confusing, at Donington last year we had the '87 pole sitting Rouse/Moffat sierra and the Rouse/Brock car, i.e. 2 different cars.
The Rouse/Moffat ANZ car has been sold recently to an Australian buyer !

The Bowdens? Would fit in nicely with the other Moffat cars....

racer69 · 5 Feb 2006, 06:52 (Ref:1515789)

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Originally Posted by chavez

In Group N spec, but not Group A.

According to Frank de Jong's site, the Oloffson/Brabham/Hattori winning Nissan was a Group A car, not a Group N car.

http://homepage.mac.com/frank_de_jon...991%20Spa.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by racer2_uk

....at Donington last year we had the '87 pole sitting Rouse/Moffat sierra....

racer2_uk - The Rouse/Moffat Sierra wasn't on pole at Bathurst in 1987, the #7 Ludwig/Neidzweidz Eggenberger Sierra was.

**GTRMagic** · 5 Feb 2006, 09:56 (Ref:1515841)

A pic of the sister car

**GTRMagic** · 5 Feb 2006, 10:15 (Ref:1515846)

Quote:

Originally Posted by racer69

DJR were not the first team to do this. Allan Moffat did it in 1982, he built his new RX7 (in addition to his RHD 1981 built car) in LHD especially for the races at Sandown and Bathurst, as the tracks 'went left'. Not only was it felt he would have a better view of the track line and corner wise, it was though with the drivers weight being over 'lightest' side of the car when cornering, it would help keep the wheels on the ground and the Mazda was forced to corner with alot zest.

Theorectically thinking what was nuts about that?

RHD @ Oran Park....

.. LHD @ Bathurst...

.. and not too sure at Surfers..

cav · 6 Feb 2006, 07:40 (Ref:1516385)

Those Paul Picket Hyundai's were shockers and wouldnt have made the grade in division 3 sports sedans. Good pics though, got any more 2 liter stuff GTR from that era?

**GTRMagic** · 6 Feb 2006, 08:35 (Ref:1516407)

Greenfield BMW

... or should I say BMWs... there were 2 of them after all...

**GTRMagic** · 6 Feb 2006, 08:50 (Ref:1516417)

Ex-GRM Alfa

BJR Audi

And again.. looks better in silver

**GTRMagic** · 6 Feb 2006, 08:55 (Ref:1516419)

1993 Australian 2 Litre Touring Car Champion

This is the car it beat...

Defending the title in 1994

The Fabre Castell 318ST

Roddler's Playboy BMW

Jr Johnson drove this car in SuperCheap colours a while back

Lone Star JR in the Hungry Jacks RPM Mondeo

The ex-RPM Car with mr Hills

GRM Nissan... crook panelfit even then

Richo's 1995 BTCC winner

Murf's first Bathurst car

Group'C' · 6 Feb 2006, 10:14 (Ref:1516451)

GTR - Looks to me that Moffat's RX-7 is a LHD at Surfers as the mirror is on that side

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