[WEC] Porsche GTP / Hypercar: factory and customer

[RL17]

Originally Posted by skycafe

I guess there are still supply chain issues, and Penske had wanted to slow customer programs (slow delivery) because of concerns about support demands.

Seem to be taking as long as possible without breaking their contracts. Shame as can’t believe supply chain that bad as have made loads of Penske ones ages ago - when did they start testing last year?!

[joeb]

If you want to own a street legal (race modified) 962, here is your chance!

https://www.endurance-info.com/class...2-sur-la-route

[Adam43]

Need.

[Aysedasi]

Yes - need. But they need to sort out our potholes first........

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Yes - need. But they need to sort out our potholes first........

Might need to make a ride height adjustment or two!

[Aysedasi]

Originally Posted by joeb

Might need to make a ride height adjustment or two!

...or seven, even......

[PhilipR]

https://www.motorsport.com/imsa/news...pace/10455925/ interesting observations by Porsche rivals

They seem to think the car is quite peaky and is very fast but has a narrow performance window at the moment

I have not noticed the car at Sebring much but at Daytona it seemed there were moments when it was fast as the acura and moments when it was struggling to keep up with the other cars which goes hand in hand with the above article

[veeten]

A better example of their progress was the testing they did at Spa along with Ferrari. On a track that transitioned between dry to wet and damp, both cars showed not only competent stability, but grip that belied a level of performance we only thought the Toyota had.
Underestimating them is not what anyone should be doing.

[joeb]

Some additional good info on the porsche development from DSC:

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2023/...ticipated.html

[KlBD]

Originally Posted by joeb

Some additional good info on the porsche development from DSC:

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2023/...ticipated.html

Maybe this means that in the future when the class stabilizes we could see more customer cars, but personally, I don't anticipate anywhere near the kind of customer numbers you saw during Group C. If anything, it has become apparent to me after watching the various videos by Marshall Pruett/IMSA explaining the new cars that even if economies of scale eventually trim down acquisition costs, running & optimizing LMDh cars is a significant financial & technical undertaking probably only achievable by the very top privateer teams with some level of manufacturer support. In this regard, the performances of Jota & Proton will serve as significant canary in the coalmine moments (I don't have as high of expectations for JDC-Miller, sadly).

Perhaps once a few years have elapsed the manufacturers who are left standing will move to a factory-supported partner model like what HPD does in IMSA with MSR & WTR rather than running branded in-house programs.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by PhilipR

https://www.motorsport.com/imsa/news...pace/10455925/ interesting observations by Porsche rivals

They seem to think the car is quite peaky and is very fast but has a narrow performance window at the moment

I have not noticed the car at Sebring much but at Daytona it seemed there were moments when it was fast as the acura and moments when it was struggling to keep up with the other cars which goes hand in hand with the above article

Maybe they didn't strap down the sand

[joeb]

Private cars have been out testing!

https://www.endurance-info.com/auto/...he-963-privees

[joeb]

JDC livery was revealed as well as drivers Rockenfeller and Van Der Helm.

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2023/...tp-effort.html

Gotta say the 2 privateer teams we have seen so far have just knocked it out of the park with the liveries.

[Mike E]

That looks so much better than the works cars

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by joeb

JDC livery was revealed as well as drivers Rockenfeller and Van Der Helm.

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2023/...tp-effort.html

Gotta say the 2 privateer teams we have seen so far have just knocked it out of the park with the liveries.

JDC looks great.
Also the Jota one looks great, has a very classic vibe.

[skycafe]

Both of the private cars are in a different league than the factory cars.

[veeten]

Great livery, and glad to see Rocky back in the big cars again.

[Aysedasi]

Originally Posted by joeb

Gotta say the 2 privateer teams we have seen so far have just knocked it out of the park with the liveries.

They really have. Both definite 'lookers'!

[RL17]

Factory cars and drivers must have done in excess of 30,000km testing last year alone so private WEC teams have a bit of catching up to do and one’s still standing outside waiting to get into the party. Didn’t watch latest IMSA race but the factory Porsches weren’t too hot at Daytona.

[Simmi]

Anyone want to place a bet on what the special livery is going to be for Le Mans? We should find out this evening.

[rika]

I would love the Repsol livery.
Impossible, I know, but I really like that one.

[Mike E]

Jägermeister!

Alcohol advertising ban blah blah

[Matador]

Originally Posted by Simmi

Anyone want to place a bet on what the special livery is going to be for Le Mans? We should find out this evening.

Flying pigs?

[Simmi]

Swing and a miss for me.




Not the first time Porsche have designed cars to be viewed from above - which no one ever does. Wish they'd just run the WEC cars as works and then gone all out on the third car. This is a kind of corporate half-way house to be honest, especially across all three cars.

[FIRE]

From above it looks great.
From other angles...not really.