Group A Ford Sierra RS500

[PAUL S]

If you love the RS500 then head over here and say Hi

http://rs500owners.com/index.php

[Craner Curves]

I've been reading Dick Johnson's autobiography on Kindle and found the Sierra years very interesting, especially his bust up with Andy Rouse over the engine management chips he was being supplied with, which contributed to his awful 87 season.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Craner Curves

I've been reading Dick Johnson's autobiography on Kindle and found the Sierra years very interesting, especially his bust up with Andy Rouse over the engine management chips he was being supplied with, which contributed to his awful 87 season.

And yet Mr Brock bought 2 cars, a shedload of running gear and the technology to operate, and managed to compete in seasons 1989 and 1990 both competitively and reasonably reliably...

[VIVA GT]

I think with DJ it would have been a clash of ego's! I don't think he believed that anyone could be more clever than him...

[Paden]

Originally Posted by KA

Now you mention it, looking at Richard's side-on pics of the Sierras, yes, I see what you mean- the TDR cars do seem to ride lower at the rear....

Donovan & Pinkney
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...57627283400681
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...57627283400681

As a comparison, Bristow's Labatt's car
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...57627283400681
the Smith/Wilds Trakstar
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...57627283400681
Rouse's Kaliber car
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...57627283400681
Dave Brodie
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...57627283400681
and Jerry Mahony's Roger Dowson-prepped example
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...57627283400681

The TDR pair do seem to have a different stance to the others....

well noticed there... I was the trainee mechanic for terry at the time of building these cars, one of my jobs was to saw the swinging arms to increase the camber on the rear tyres after avon suggested a neg camber of 5 deg..

[Paden]

yes you are correct, I was a trainee mechanic working for Terry when these cars was built in 88. 1 of my more tedious jobs was to saw through the rear swing arm on the car to increase the rear camber along with the suggested 5 deg of the avon tyres recommendations for the front setup

[Alex E]

Should anyone be interested a significant RS500 Gp A car has recently surfaced. PM me if you want to know more. Alex

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by Alex E

Should anyone be interested a significant RS500 Gp A car has recently surfaced. PM me if you want to know more. Alex

Don't be such a tease with your PM me suggestion, your inbox will become clogged!
Be a man (and a mate) and make your findings public!

[Amaroo Park]

So what was this significant Sierra?

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by Amaroo Park

So what was this significant Sierra?

Four months later an no further news? I don't think it could have been...
(Now if that nudge doesn't prompt a response, I don't think that it could have been true!)

[Alex E]

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

Four months later an no further news? I don't think it could have been...
(Now if that nudge doesn't prompt a response, I don't think that it could have been true!)

OK OK....... I give in.....it is the Eggenberger Trampio car that won the Japanese Group A Championship in 1988. When Homologation ended in 1990 it was put into storage & has never run since. It will arrive here in the next couple of weeks. The 1990 Rouse BTCC Sierra also recently returned here. I think the intention is for both cars to be used in one way or another.
Alex

[DAVID PATERSON]

Originally Posted by Alex E

OK OK....... I give in.....it is the Eggenberger Trampio car that won the Japanese Group A Championship in 1988. When Homologation ended in 1990 it was put into storage & has never run since. It will arrive here in the next couple of weeks. The 1990 Rouse BTCC Sierra also recently returned here. I think the intention is for both cars to be used in one way or another.
Alex

Where is here?

Are you sure homologation ended in 1990. The RS500 was homologated in 1987, so it should be current until 31/12/92? Or is it 1990 because the XR4Ti was homologated in 1985?

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

Where is here?

Are you sure homologation ended in 1990. The RS500 was homologated in 1987, so it should be current until 31/12/92? Or is it 1990 because the XR4Ti was homologated in 1985?

I've a feeling that the RS500 homologation in Group A was extended to the end of 1993 to allow cars one more years running in Malaysia...

[Alex E]

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

I've a feeling that the RS500 homologation in Group A was extended to the end of 1993 to allow cars one more years running in Malaysia...

Yes I think you are right Gp A went on after 1990 in some countries. And some RS500`s did race in Japan after 1990. But I think the arrival of the NIssan GTR`s probably made RS500`s a bit obsolete in Japan.

[GTRMagic]

'Damon Hill' Sierra For Sale

[Amaroo Park]

From the pictures I have seen of the Hill car it looks rough

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by Amaroo Park

From the pictures I have seen of the Hill car it looks rough

As the original owner/builder of the car, Graham Goode stated on Facebook some time ago. How that car is now doesn't represent how it was when first built, or when driven by Damon Hill in 1989!

[Amaroo Park]

From what I saw of the Goode cars at the time here in Australia they always looked well presented

[Alex E]

This is the Trampio RS500.

[KA]

That's one which is probably particularly well-known to plastic model kit enthusiasts- Tamiya did their 1/24 RS500 as the Trampio/Ciesse Piumini car as well as in Eggenberger/Texaco guise. I've still got one tucked away in my loft- Funnily enough I never did get round to the Eggenberger!


http://www.automodellistudio.com/201...osworth-rs500/

http://www.fordsierranet.com.ar/Fotos/tamiya06.jpg

From vague memory, is that the car which for some reason came over to Europe for a one-off ETCC round (Nurburgring I think?) in 1988?

[DAVID PATERSON]

Originally Posted by Alex E

This is the Trampio RS500.

Originally Posted by KA

That's one which is probably particularly well-known to plastic model kit enthusiasts- Tamiya did their 1/24 RS500 as the Trampio/Ciesse Piumini car. I've still got one tucked away in my loft.

http://www.automodellistudio.com/201...osworth-rs500/

http://www.fordsierranet.com.ar/Fotos/tamiya06.jpg

I recently was given that model by a friend who won it in a raffle. I haven't removed the plastic yet, not sure if I should.

[chavez]

Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

I recently was given that model by a friend who won it in a raffle. I haven't removed the plastic yet, not sure if I should.

I made a DJR Sierra from that kit.

There was also an Eggenberger kit, but the Trampio kit was moulded in white and therefore easier to spray red than the Eggenberger kit which was moulded in black.

[KA]

I'd missed this one (don't think it's been mentioned before?). Prospect, (who IIRC run the Labatt's M3 that Max Goff has been racing in the HSCC Supertouring series) have got the two 1988 Imberti/Jolly Club RS500s...

http://prospect.uk.com/wp-content/ga...5687cc830f.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dXkIz3uPXZ...P4300574aa.jpg

http://prospect.uk.com/listings/rs500-imberti

http://prospect.uk.com/listings/rs500-jolly-club-car

[martinlabatts]

Originally Posted by KA

Maybe- though I don't recall Ford ever using wheels with centre lock nuts on rallycars- just normal 5-stud fittings. It's definitely got RS500 spoilers as far as I can see.

I've had a bit of a search on Google, and Antonin Charouz appears to have been using a Wolf Cosworth in the European Hillclimb Championship around 1991/2 which seems to fit with what's on the museum website- Charouz certainly had Marlboro sponsorship on his ETCC Corolla a few years before- there's one of those in the same collection

this car is for sale in the uk
repainted

[bent65]

I was wondering if anyone can help me identify a decal on the Bond Caltex car from 1988. the decal on the upper rear quarter panel just behind the door.
This the best pic I can find of it at about 4:42 in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnaak...GWaB5LhrhYtNS0
Any help will do?
cheers