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16 May 2013, 08:59 (Ref:3248306) | #76 | |
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His second career was little more than fun. Only a fool would have thought that a 40 something could emulate what had gone before. Schumacher himself admitted that. Mercedes got something out of having him start the team... and he obviously got a kick out of driving an F1 car for a few more seasons.
I'm not sure that Rosberg ever lowered or raised his game. He has always been a very quick driver - his outstanding pre-F1 credentials are evidence of that - it's just that he's never had a decent car under him for most of the time he's driven in F1. |
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16 May 2013, 09:00 (Ref:3248308) | #77 | |
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There is no evidence, it just looks that way to me really. Rosberg just seemed undermotivated in comparison to 2010 and a bit of 2011. The team was stale, there was no progress. His driving looked complacent and lazy.
This year he at least has a new teammate to try and beat which has probably refocussed him somewhat. It reminded me of Jenson in 2008. Honda were still awful and he seemed to be drifting and Barrichello was making the most of rare opportunities. However, come next season, he had a good car and he got his mojo back. It is simple human nature. You need that dangling carrot, so to speak. |
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Schumacher would've fancied his chances at wins though not the WC stepping into what was the reigning WC team. A guy of his stellar standard would've been disappointed at his form during those two seasons.
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16 May 2013, 10:44 (Ref:3248346) | #79 | |
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If he'd been driving a Red Bull it's entirely possible that he would have won... Rosberg too. The Merc just wasn't up to the job and still isn't. He seemed to be very chilled out on his return... the steely 'win at all costs' mentality retired with him the first time around.
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16 May 2013, 11:06 (Ref:3248353) | #81 | |
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I don't think the win at all costs attitude retired with him first time around at all. He was still throwing his car at the likes of Barrichello for tenth place.
Three years of awkwardness and rictus grins. |
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I think Rosberg is the only one who would know if that's true or not. Just because he's had two poles doesn't mean much - the car could be faster this year than 2012.
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Karting, DTM, GT are niche categories outside of the global spotlight. The sports' retired big shots can have fun there and it won't attract anyone's attention outside of the trade. A return to F1 for statistically the sports biggest icon; that's a radically different proposition. That's a BIG multiyear project that demands commitment and he would not have been unmoved by the appalling luck he had, his struggles to make tyres work..etc. Schumacher was committed, philosophical in defeat but committed. |
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Schumacher (presumably Michael, not Ralf) was a great driver. So was Senna, Hakkinen, Prost, Lauda, and many more before them. Even today there are a group of drivers who are a different class of driver than the rest of the field. I'd put Vettel, Raikonen, Alonso, and Hamilton in that group but time will tell whether they stay there or are joined by Rosberg, Perez, etc. To pick one driver as THE BEST seems redundant. F1 of the 1950s is completely different to F1 of today. Could Fangio have done what he did if there were 20 races? Or if he had to deal with modern aerodynamics? We'll never know of course. To have an opinion that Driver A is better than Driver B is one thing. To swear black and blue that Driver A was the best and everyone else is wrong just doesn't make sense. It can only be a subjective arguement. |
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Before the rule change in '94, "the plot" was simple. You'd start the race, race, finish the race. Whatever happened, happened. Nowadays, "the plot" is trying to run the same script every race, either to combat the popularity of another class or make fans who are not as easily satisfied happy. If we're talking about the reputation of the better drivers from before the '94 season, nobody is talking about how great they were at something as lame as entering/exiting the pits. "Wow, did you see Mansell at the '87 British GP??? How was his in/out lap???" |
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There's a reason why the pit entry in particular, is an area where a lot of time can be gained and lost. It's an awkward road to drive hard on, and you're not really meant to be driving there hard in the first place. I would liken it to approaching a yellow flag, heaps of time can be gained/lost in yellow flags. It's hardly the great driving/racing challenge/skill. What's going to happen next? Fans start talking about pit lanes with the same enthusiasm as what fans talk about Eau Rouge and Parabolica? |
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He was still respectable and made a good game of it even at the twilight of his career.
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