Round 6: The 105th running of the Indianapolis 500. May 18-30, 2021. - Page 4

mstets · 23 May 2021, 06:10 (Ref:4052803)

Both of Power's runs are shown as bumped. Neither was withdrawn. The only withdrawn run of the day was Kellett's.

https://racer.com/wp-content/uploads...1-official.pdf

peebee2 · 23 May 2021, 06:55 (Ref:4052805)

That’s right because they weren’t top 30 when set.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 23 May 2021, 10:03 (Ref:4052824)

Qualifying Result Day 1:

Apart from Ed Carpenter and Rinus VeeKay in 4th and 5th, that was total domination by Honda, as qualifying goes into Day 2 for the Last Row Shoot Out and the Fast Nine Shoot Out.

The field average was 230.565 mph, up on last year's. which was 229.570 mph.

tux · 23 May 2021, 17:19 (Ref:4052930)

Anyone have any idea what's going on? There's only 5 cars running today?

**joeb** · 23 May 2021, 17:24 (Ref:4052932)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tux

Anyone have any idea what's going on? There's only 5 cars running today?

The first set of qualifying is to figure out who's going to make the last three spots. There are five drivers competing which means two people will not make the field.

And will power just hit the wall!

The second qualifying session today will be to set the top nine positions. Positions 10 through 30 were set yesterday.

**joeb** · 23 May 2021, 17:40 (Ref:4052934)

All five drivers have now had their turn, and each went slower than the previous driver. Right now we have Karem, Power, and Simona in the final three spots.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 23 May 2021, 17:46 (Ref:4052935)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

All five drivers have now had their turn, and each went slower than the previous driver. Right now we have Karem, Power, and Simona in the final three spots.

As they are only allowed one attempt, what are they all doing still sitting in their cars?

tux · 23 May 2021, 17:51 (Ref:4052939)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

As they are only allowed one attempt, what are they all doing still sitting in their cars?

You arent allowed to run again for like 50 minutes. Its such a dumb format. You give them an hour long session but after a run but it takes an hour to cool the car down

So now you get 50 minutes of people sitting around when the results already decided.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 23 May 2021, 18:00 (Ref:4052941)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tux

You arent allowed to run again for like 50 minutes. Its such a dumb format. You give them an hour long session but after a run but it takes an hour to cool the car down

So now you get 50 minutes of people sitting around when the results already decided.

You aren't allowed to run again for 50 minutes? I didn't know that. That is ridiculous.

peebee2 · 23 May 2021, 18:02 (Ref:4052942)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

As they are only allowed one attempt, what are they all doing still sitting in their cars?

You can go out as much as you want, but at the moment the three in will wait to see if the two out improve. The two will try and wait until the last minute. We will see who blinks first.

peebee2 · 23 May 2021, 18:03 (Ref:4052943)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tux

You arent allowed to run again for like 50 minutes.

Utter rubbish!!

**FIRE** · 23 May 2021, 18:28 (Ref:4052946)

So Enerson and Kimball out.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 23 May 2021, 18:31 (Ref:4052947)

Quote:

Originally Posted by peebee2

You can go out as much as you want, but at the moment the three in will wait to see if the two out improve. The two will try and wait until the last minute. We will see who blinks first.

I stand corrected. So Power just scrapes in to the last row.

Who is going to get Pole?

broadrun96 · 23 May 2021, 19:20 (Ref:4052949)

Telemetry must be way off or MSR has a poorly tuned car, Helio never hit 6th on his run which does not seem right

broadrun96 · 23 May 2021, 19:23 (Ref:4052950)

No, an ECR car running crazy lap speeds on lap 1? Why I never. 1.5 up on average after 2 is crazy it looks like he's losing the car on 3rd and 4th with a big slide

peebee2 · 23 May 2021, 19:29 (Ref:4052953)

Quote:

Originally Posted by broadrun96

Telemetry must be way off or MSR has a poorly tuned car, Helio never hit 6th on his run which does not seem right

They’ll have sixth set for tailwinds. Lots of the cars were like that yesterday.

Three top gears is plenty flexible!

**bjohnsonsmith** · 23 May 2021, 19:37 (Ref:4052958)

Colton Herta on provisional Pole. Just Dixie to go.

broadrun96 · 23 May 2021, 19:40 (Ref:4052960)

Quote:

Originally Posted by peebee2

They’ll have sixth set for tailwinds. Lots of the cars were like that yesterday.

Three top gears is plenty flexible!

So far, if you believe telemetry, everyone else has run 6th. I assumed Helio has 6th tuned more for the tow in the race than alone.

Dixie isn't waiting around himself, track seems to have improved late with the cloud cover

**bjohnsonsmith** · 23 May 2021, 19:42 (Ref:4052961)

Dixie takes Pole.

peebee2 · 23 May 2021, 19:57 (Ref:4052970)

Quote:

Originally Posted by broadrun96

So far, if you believe telemetry, everyone else has run 6th. I assumed Helio has 6th tuned more for the tow in the race than alone.

No they really haven’t - and you think MSR sent the car out to qualify with a race set up??

broadrun96 · 23 May 2021, 20:22 (Ref:4052973)

Yes, I watched the Fast 9 and all the rest ran to 6th half way down the front and back, you could see it on the telemetry and hear the shift. I have it recorded and sorry but you're just flat wrong there.

peebee2 · 23 May 2021, 20:37 (Ref:4052978)

Quote:

Originally Posted by broadrun96

Yes, I watched the Fast 9 and all the rest ran to 6th half way down the front and back, you could see it on the telemetry and hear the shift. I have it recorded and sorry but you're just flat wrong there.

Ok, I believe you, though I also watched today and yesterday and thought I saw plenty that didn’t.

Anyway, I hope you do realise that 4th, 5th and 6th are all top gears on the oval.

**joeb** · 24 May 2021, 01:07 (Ref:4053018)

I was amazed that the later runners were able to find so much speed in the fast 9 today. I got to say for the 500 I'm either pulling for one of the young guys, especially Pato, or if an old guy has to win Carpenter would be my first choice.

I've never followed the Indy qualifying in the past as close as i did this year, and I have to say I enjoyed it. Part of me thinks it's ridiculous to drag it out for so long, and I know they have shortened the month of May plus added the GP race, but it still feels like you could do the Indy 500 in a week.

**joeb** · 24 May 2021, 02:08 (Ref:4053027)

Damn, I laughed so hard at the video in this article. Pagenaud and Newgarden are lost in a corn field trying to find there way to the now defunct Iowa IndyCar race. Not sure how I've never seen this before, but it is gold!

https://jalopnik.com/what-dumb-race-...ist-1846947103

Tourer · 24 May 2021, 05:36 (Ref:4053036)

Enjoyed qualifying - yep, goes on too long and had some drama, bit of disorganisation to it but that is all part of the Indy experience.

Have taken Monday off next week (here in Oz, the 500 starts at oh-dark-hundred on Monday morning) to enjoy the race - looking forward to it and think that we're going to see quite some difference once they're all running in dirty air.

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