Special Saloon/Super Saloon Register

[driftwood]

JT i think you have been salivating over some old film recently with the still very good looking lady
Honor Blackburn/Mike Wilson - Mazda RX7 - 3442cc (Cosworth)i think you wil find this is Holman(Les)

re cars
is the 1970 escort V8 Martin car of phil danby the cutting 72 car?
what 3 litre was colin hawker running? is the capri the same car that later has DFV fitted
Mike Crabtree had the hewland transaxle at rear end of his escort?

i did see in 72 AS advert for escort glass fibre body car fitted to lotus elan chassis for sale from ooop norf- who was this?

[John Turner]

Actually that's how it appeared in the programme, but yes, I was most appreciative of Honor Blackman. Stayed sexy as she matured, too!

[morninggents]

Originally Posted by driftwood

i did see in 72 AS advert for escort glass fibre body car fitted to lotus elan chassis for sale from ooop norf- who was this?

Was it Jon Fletcher?

[driftwood]

no not Jon Fletcher
he still has his ORIGINAL elan from year dot he was modsports racer ONLY until he did some Gt races in the 80`s with his elan

[Alan Brown]

1965 additions

John Emmins Anglia-Chevy 4.3.
Maurice W Winch (East Anglian Racing Cars) 1200 pushrod or 1298
David Wynn-Williams (East Anglian Racing Cars) 1700 twin cam green + orange

1966

Norman Abbott (Autocadia) 1650 twin cam
(appeared August – could be the same car as Mike Tappenden)
Mike Andrews SCA
A J (Tony) Amato
Gerry Amato 1650
(Could be the car advertised in A/S 24-6-66.)
Gerry Amato reappeared in November twin cam
[Were the above two different people? How many cars?]
Phil de Banks (Aylesbury Tuning Co) 1650 twin cam yellow
Graham Birrell (Perdal) 1800
Graham Birrell 1860 pushrod (all independent suspension – new MN 4-8-66)
M Blake 1600? twin cam
A Bray 1800
R J P Bromwich 1650
Terry Burgess was reported (MN 6-10-66) to be selling “Green Bean” (1000cc) raced in 1965 by Nick Brittan and seemingly not used since.
Bill Camp 1650
D W Clarke twin cam
D E Coleman 1650
Harry Cox 1598
Tim Cox 1598 gold
T Croker
John Cummins (East Anglian Racing Cars) 1300 twin cam silver and burgundy (shared with Brian Keen – also driven by Alan Peer)
Brian Cutting 1899 Martin 12-valve pushrod (MN 12-1-67)
P Dalkin (Perdal) (written off at Croft MN 1-9-66)
Neal Davis 1600
R Eva
Peter Finney 1598 twin cam
Dave J Garrett (Team Anglia) 1650 or 1692 or 1800 twin cam (shared with Brian Peacock)
L T Earle 1600
Gerry Edmonds SCA (Appears to have been the McDougall car. MN 12-1-67)
Anthony Godfrey 1650
M Guthrie 1500?
P Hawthorne 1650
P Hawthorne ex-John Hewitt [first noted May] (Castle Service Station Racing) 1594
John Hewitt [Before May]
Laurie Hickman ex-Mike Lacey 1000 (written off at Oulton Park)
Brian Keen (East Anglian Racing Cars) 1300 twin cam silver and burgundy (shared with John Cummins – also driven by Alan Peer)
Dennis King (Team Anglia) 1710 twin cam
Peter Kitchen
C J Lawrence
John Lewis ex-Terry Drury 1800 twin cam
Pat Mannion 1650
Rod Mansfield twin cam
R M (Martin) Maudling 1300?
Sandy McCracken twin cam
Ian McDougall SCA (soon given up in favour of a Mini – then used by Gerry Edmonds)
Terry J McNally 1650
N R Mees twin cam
John E Miles (David Brodie) 1300
S Morris
John Myerscough ex-Gerry Amato 1650
Les Nash 1298
Claire Newbold (Doc Merfield?) 1300
Brian Peacock (Team Anglia) 1650 or 1800 twin cam (shared with Dave Garrett)
Alan Peer (East Anglian Racing Cars) 1820 twin cam silver and burgundy (reshelled August MN 25-8-66) (For sale £1200 MN 19-1-67)
Zak Redjep twin cam
Tony Roberts 1500
Tim Schenken (prepared by Chequered Flag) twin cam
Roger Swanton 1300
Mike Tappenden (Autocadia) (could be the same car as Norman Abbott)
Roger Taylor (East Anglian Racing Cars) 1820 twin cam silver and burgundy
Robert Torrie
J Wicks
Dave Willars (also raced by Derek Bennett) 1650
Barry Withers 1650
Alf Wright (Team Perdal) Triumph engine (MN 4-8-66) (called Trianglia)
David Wynn-Williams twin cam
(Advertised A/S 24-6-66)
Mike Young (Superspeed) 1000 maroon (JY 100 – the seven-year old big-engined car re-engined MN 11-8-66)


Copied from post 53 for completeness:
Reg Gubbins Anglia-Buick. Presumably the same car as raced in 1965 with 1650 engine.
Mike Davies Anglia-Buick – one report in May 1966.
M Pelman Anglia-Buick – one report in May 1966.
John Emmins Anglia-Chevy 5.5.
John Hewitt (Luton Motor Company) Ford Tasman Anglia (Tasmanglia) – fitted with an ex-Racing Preparations 2.5 Climax FPF. Debuted at Silverstone in August. It was said in MN 8-9-66 that it “was once the ex-Doc Merfield Anglia (it has since had innumerable body shells and engines)”. Presumably, the car John Hewitt had previously raced with a 1600 engine. Raced victoriously by Peter Hawthorne (who normally raced a 1650 Anglia) at Boxing Day Mallory Park.


Adverts
Autosport 24-6-66 has four Anglias for sale:
• David Wynn-Williams – “successful” twin cam (24 starts, 23 places, 12 wins) – Hornchurch Essex.
• Gerry Amato (Anthony Amato Car Sales SE9) – “fantastically successful” 1650 - £795.
• Unnamed owner SW7 – due to change of plans unraced 1650, built from new 1966 shell, complies with Group 3 regulations, body finished in white with a navy stripe.
• Ex-Boley Pittard, 1594 twin cam, “3 races only from new” – Bournemouth. [How many cars did Pittard have/use? Brian Newton was said to have an ex-Pittard car in 1965, but races a Lotus-Cortina in 1966. Where did he live?]


Article
• Driving a 140 m.p.h. Anglia MN 19-1-67 (in-depth 2 page article on the three Anglias of the East Anglian Racing Cars team).


In its Club Racing Review 1966 MN (12-1-67 and 19-1-67) in the guise of ARM picked Alan Peer (13 wins) as its unofficial over 1300 champion from Peter Hawthorne (11wins). Roger Taylor had 10 wins.

Third in Westover Championship and class winner Alan Peer.
Third in Spring Grove Championship and class winner Alan Peer.


Group 5 (British Saloon Car Championsip)
Chris Craft (Superspeed) 1197 (may be 1300 later in the season)
Mike Young (Superspeed) 1197 (may be 1300 later in the season)
John Fitzpatrick (Broadspeed) 1000 - champion
Peter Procter (Broadspeed) 1000 (badly burnt at Goodwood)
Anita Taylor (Broadspeed) 1000
Paul Webb (Superspeed) 1000
Trevor Taylor (Broadspeed) 1300

[John Turner]

I've thrown another thread together, of bits from two different ones:-

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113097

However, I'm finding it very time consuming and it's difficult to know what to include. I gave up on adding the posts from a third thread as it really is complicated. It seems to me that we should also have a separate thread on Mini/Imp/Reliant/Fiat small engined stuff and the Skodas appear to warrant a thread of their own.

[Dan Rear]

Sorry chaps, been away for a few days. A couple of points, first wasn't the Tony Hazlewood Cortina the ex-Doc Merfield car. I'm stuck into some 71 A/Spurts, and think of read that point. Next the Hawker 3-litre Escort wasn't a DFV motor. He got this only when he built his Capri in 73-74. The Rapier Chev was Martin Kent.

[ezwalk43]

Great idea to start a register for these cars but there must be little hope of following full ownership trail through as there were hundreds of them! - I used to follow Anglia history and owned a number of well known cars in the 1970's when they were worthless. Still have all my scrap books, photos and programmes form '65 onwards and have photos of many of the cars already discussed. And to me special saloon racing started about 1964 with the first of the big engine Anglias and other hybrids. Before this most saloons even in club racing resembled Group 2 cars. Have photos I took at Mallory in '63 of a saloon handicap featuring very standard looking (possibly Superspeed) Anglias up against everything including a Gogomobile!

[driftwood]

Gerry Amato later raced F3 cars late 70`s early 80`s
Zak Redjep was also racing Escorts early 1970`s at Brands against nick whiting to me he was always known asZekia Redjep

[allenbrown]

Originally Posted by ezwalk43

Great idea to start a register for these cars but there must be little hope of following full ownership trail through as there were hundreds of them! - I used to follow Anglia history and owned a number of well known cars in the 1970's when they were worthless. Still have all my scrap books, photos and programmes form '65 onwards and have photos of many of the cars already discussed. And to me special saloon racing started about 1964 with the first of the big engine Anglias and other hybrids. Before this most saloons even in club racing resembled Group 2 cars. Have photos I took at Mallory in '63 of a saloon handicap featuring very standard looking (possibly Superspeed) Anglias up against everything including a Gogomobile!

A new thread has started to look at the smaller capacity cars so I think these threads will focus on 1500cc and higher.

In terms of a register, the easiest thing we can do is track cars that were actually built and are therefore still recognisably distinctive, as opposed to every car that had a larger engine fitted. Tracking Anglias with twin-cams is a different order of magnitude of difficulty to tracking Skodas with DFVs. The Janglia, the Boss Capri, Baby Bertha, the DFVW - these are all trackable and stand a chance of existing today.

But as we haven't defined the task yet, nobody can say it's impossible!

[allenbrown]

Come on guys - keep those entry lists coming. We need more from 1972 and 1973 at the moment - plus anything to get us started on 1976 onwards

[driftwood]

allen im oppossed to jumping too far ahead as the 76 car is likely to be a 73 built car gets sold modified and we duplicate some things
i was around as a whipper snapper in 75 76 77 and recall the cars drivers with ease especially when i see fotos or read AS race rsults
also bare in mind there wher 3 national c/ships back then PLUS many circuit only series and to get the race results together will mean a LOT of lists as it was possible for many drivers to race Oulton saturday -brands mallory silverstone sunday and bank holiday monday at coombe Llandudo rufforth croft
also some guys never went far from home circuit due poor road network
i recall doing 75-77 brands & lydden and twice trekked all the way to thruxton !!
it was not til 79 we saw silverstone donington mallory as it took long time to get there

[allenbrown]

We still needs lists of cars to start making sense of where the cars had come from. Entry lists make a very good starting point.

Guys, Drifty's objection is overruled. Please keep the entry lists coming - for any year you happen to have to hand.

[Dan Rear]

I'll do some Mallory ones from 73-74 later.

[driftwood]

is there a sulky Icon smiley?? if so i want to comandeer it

i did have some programmes from our brands 75-80 racing days but i fear they have one out into the bin

my main reason to go year by year is to see the various cars drivers tuning shop /entrants so it becomes easier to follow cars changing hands or getting upgrade engines/ spec
good fotos are now required either scanned from the race mags or private photographers who visited these races to aid the changes of owners livery spec
when you look at the other threads we have jumped to n fro on chassis numbers names etc and duplicated some points and new posters come on line dont read thru the thread and duplicate again what we already know

we know the main cars ie Superloons plus the myraid of escorts capris of the 74-78 era plus the Gp6 sports based car skoda esprit cars but to fathom the many imps mini anglia baby class escorts will take time hence the need for year on year and some fotos

[Dan Rear]

OK, here's some chaps, only 1300cc+ cars listed, by no. in prog.

Mallory 26-8-73 FordSport Speed Day

1. Mick Hill Capri 6000cc
2. Bill Cox Capri 5700
3. John Wales Berpop 4700
4. Tony Strawson Capri 4700
5. Tony Ward Escort 1650
6. Dennis Nott Escort 5000
7. Roy Yates Zodiac 6300
9. Chris Meek Escort BDA 1850
10. Jeff Mann Anglia 1700

Funny how they're all Fords ain't it! Hill won from Meek and Strawson

14-10-73 MCD Special Saloon race

1. Meek As above
2. Tony Sugden Escort TC 1890
3. Nott As above
4. Bill Cox (?) Berpop
5. Dennis Welch Anglia 1600
6. Mann As above

All beaten by 2 1300 Minis, Sugden won the class from Mann and Welch

27-5-74 Special Saloon Race

1. Welch As above
2. Chris Field Avenger 1500
3. John Myerscough Escort TC 1600
4. Malcolm Stevens Falcon 4727
5. Alec Poole Escort BDA 1940 (entered by Robert Ryan)
6. Mike Berman Berpop Olds 3568cc
7. Tony Rosen Mustang 7000
8. John Pope Magnum 5400

Poole won from Welch, and Pope

FordSport Speed Day 25-8-74

1. Geoff Wood Escort Hart 1850
2. Nick Whiting Escort Cosw. 1900
3. Bill Cox Capri 7600
4. Steve Phillips Escort TC 1600
5. Peter Miller Anglia 1600
6. Dennis Welch As above
7. R.F. Curzon Escort TC 1300
8. Brian Thackray Escort 1850
9. John Calvert Escort 1850
10. Alec Poole As above
11. Jim Evans 'Ford Turbo RS2000'
12. Tony Strawson Capri 4700
30. Malcolm Stevens As above
31. Dennis Nott Capri 5000

Poole won again from Nick W, Calvert and Welch

Mallory 29-9-74 Simoniz Special Saloon Car Race

1. Ian Richardson Corvair 7600
2. Albert Peacock Camaro 5780
3. John Turner Skoda 5000
4. Gerry Marshall Firenza 2300
5. Tony Sugden As above
6. Nick Whiting As above
7. Geoff Wood As above
8. Brian Thackray As above
9. John Calvert As above

Most non-started, Turner won from Gerry M then Suggy.

Hope thats useful !!

[driftwood]

before we go galloping away need to Id the cars
Meeks car i think was broadspeed or Mann Gp2 car need to read the 73 AS race reports adverts for sale pit n paddock to gen up
im only talking off top of my head as im now into 75 season and recall some info bits n bobs

[Alan Brown]

I told you that there many Anglias. Here is an edited list for 1967; probably the last year of Anglia domination in the over 1300 class as Escorts came into prominence in 1968.

1967

Norman Abbott 1800 purple.
Brian Cutting 1900 Martin 12-valve metallic flake blue (MN 18-5-67) – to John Burbidge by late 1967.
Team Anglia had two cars, one for Brian Peacock and Dave Garrett (and occasionally Rod Mansfield) 1798cc twin cam, and the other for Rod Mansfield 1650cc twin cam. For sale by John Field/Team Anglia, Hornchurch, Rod Mansfield’s 1650 twin cam £680. (MN 27-7-67). Probably to Keith Payne.
P Hawthorne (Castle Service Station Racing) 1594 (new shell needed after crash at Mallory Park in March).
Lawrence (Laurie) Hickman 1000 Superspeed-tuned.
Brian Keen and John Cummins (East Anglian Racing Cars) 1298 twin cam.
Mike Lacey ex-Paul Webb ` 1300.
Pat Mannion 1650.
Stanley Matthews (John Bond-Smith) 1600 or 1650.
R M (Martin) Maudling and Richard Sandilands 1650.
Ian McDougall and Gerry Edmonds 1000 MAE (Broadspeed-tuned).
Terry J McNally 1650 twin cam
(badly damaged at Brands Hatch in January) (“which must now be on at least its third body shell” MN 11-5-67). For sale £695 Kirby Muxloe, Leics – (MN 22-6-67).
John E Miles and David Brodie 1300 (sold to an “Irishman” MN 22-2-68).
John Myerscough 1650 pushrod or twin cam.
Les Nash 1298.
Alan Peer (East Anglian Racing Cars) was to contest the British Saloon Car Championship with a new Group 5 car with a 1300 downdraught port engine, but this would conflict with Ford’s official programme so it was fitted with a 997 MAE for club racing. Also raced by John Fitzpatrick and Roger Taylor. Silver (and burgundy?). Raced in Group 5 specification as well.
Zekia Redjep 1594 twin cam.
Tony Roberts - called Spottie 1600 twin cam spotted (black on white) paintwork. (caught fire at Lydden in August but repaired).
David Smith and Bob Smith 1820 twin cam (ex Alan Peer MN 26-1-67).
Roger Taylor (East Anglian Racing Cars) 1820 twin cam.
Dave Willars (also raced by Derek Bennett) 1650 (sold to Brian Classick, first raced in October).

Copied from post 53 for completeness:

John Hewitt Anglia Climax 2.5 blue.
Reg Gubbins Anglia-Buick now fuel-injected and quoted as 4.3.
Richard Scantlebury Ford Anglia-Jaguar. 4.0.
Maurice Winch Anglia 1.6 or 1.8 twin cam (Wanglia) – modified by putting a 6 inch wide strip down the centre (the whole car except the roof was widened) (MN 25-5-67).


Group 5 (British Saloon Car Championship)
Chris Craft (Superspeed) 1300.
Nick Brittan (Superspeed) 1300 (on carbs at the start of the season).
Mike Young (Superspeed) 1300 Tecalemit-Jackson fuel injection.
John Fitzpatrick (Broadspeed) 1000 Tecalemit-Jackson fuel injection – second overall and class winner.
Anita Taylor and Trevor Taylor (Broadspeed) 1000 Tecalemit-Jackson fuel injection (also practised by Roger Taylor). Sold to Leonard Ward Racing for racing in 1968 by Ken Costello in the European Challenge and John Bischoff in the RAC (British) Saloon Car Championship – raced by John Bischoff at Boxing Day Brands Hatch.
Chris Lambert (McKechnie Racing Org) 1000 Holbay on side-draught Webers
(may also have been raced by Barrie Williams).
Ron Fry ex-Broadspeed (1966 car) 1000 fuel injection.
Mike Davies (Knocker Hill Racing Team) 1000.

[allenbrown]

Thanks Dan, thanks Alan. Great posts.

The list is growing nicely:
http://www.oldracingcars.info/specia...list-1964-1993

[GBRM]

Originally Posted by Dan Rear

OK, here's some chaps, only 1300cc+ cars listed, by no. in prog.

Mallory 26-8-73 FordSport Speed Day

1. Mick Hill Capri 6000cc
2. Bill Cox Capri 5700
3. John Wales Berpop 4700
4. Tony Strawson Capri 4700
5. Tony Ward Escort 1650
6. Dennis Nott Escort 5000
7. Roy Yates Zodiac 6300
9. Chris Meek Escort BDA 1850
10. Jeff Mann Anglia 1700

Funny how they're all Fords ain't it! Hill won from Meek and Strawson

Funnily enough Baby Bertha made her debut on the 25th May 1975 at Brand Hatch in the FordSport Super Saloon Day in the BRSCC Super Saloon Championship but retired with driveshagt failure.

Just some Vauxhall history:-

Old Nail started as a flat fronted Firenza and debuted in 1971 and was maily raced by Dad but Bill Dryden won the Scottish championship in her and also drove her a few times supporting Big and Baby Bertha.
Old Nail's career is important as the two DTV Vivas were crashed at Lydden in 1971. Old Nail was raced until 1976 by DTV and last used by Gerry Marshall in 1978 - now owned by me and on load at Donington.

The DTV Vivas - One became John Pope's Viva which then became John's white turbo-charged Magnum (Dad drove both of these versions for John) and is still owned by John and I think still used on the road.

The second Viva was bought by Gerry Johnstone and Stan Burge who both raced her and Dad raced this car several times too. The car was then sold to Dave Millington in 1972 (he had a huge accident in at Oulton Park in 1973 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bosTNtfjai0) and he then in 1976 he sold it to Mervyn Dornford of Porto Rico but to be shipped to Guyana (the dealer brokered by Phillip DeFreitas) and Mervyn then took the car to Florida - he still has and races the car today in SCAA regional events, winning the ASR class championship in 1988.

Big Bertha was raced by Gerry Marshall in 1974 only and was built into;
Baby Bertha was raced by Gerry Marshall in 1975, 1976, 1977 and then again in 1983 and 1984 (Paul Haywood-Halfpenny and Phil Barak had her in the intervening years) before Joe Ward bought (and still owns) Baby Bertha.

Mega Bertha was started in 1976 and was never finished or raced (Vauxhall took the project away from DTV and never finished it!!) but is still existence today and should be on the tracks this year and I don't know if the owner is that public about it so I won't post his name.

Right, that's some of the DTV Vauxhalls but there were a lot of customer cars, not to mention Tony Davies Transpeed Firenza that Gerry raced with Tony a few times and Tony still racers to this day, very original car and the Vauxhall Chevette built for Mike Smith (also raced by Gerry) and was sold on ebay last year and also the Stars and Stripes Manta built by Gerry Johnstone (and again raced by Gerry!!).

[driftwood]

Fienzas where there around 5 cars racing?
i recall Tony Whibley having a car not sure if that is the car Tony Davies has today
who had Drake & Fletcher on their car?
was Bill Dryden in the SMMT car?

[Dan Rear]

Jeff Allam and John Wright (??) had Allam Motor Co. 2.3 Vivas as well didn't they in about 1973-74.

[GBRM]

There were loads of Firenzas and Vivas out there as you could get the bits from your local Sportparts Vauxhall dealer (85% of Old Nail was standard anyway) plus DTV would build customer cars.

There were also people like Phil De Freitas, Piggy Thompson, Mike Newman, Jackie Patterson, Gabriel Konig to name just a few.

[driftwood]

im punting on mike newman possibly having ex Whibley car if Tony D did not have it
how many of the names above owned the same cars

[big andy]

the smt car was sold to bob claxton which he broke for spares the hewland and engine are in the back of is skoda 110r which he still races in the n/w sports saloons