LM24 Le Mans 2023 Le Mans Entries (Closed) - Page 4

**Aysedasi** · 27 Jul 2022, 08:00 (Ref:4120628)

That's the spirit (ha ha!)

Coach Ep · 27 Jul 2022, 13:23 (Ref:4120657)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

The glass is completely full in 2023. We’re going to need bigger glasses for ‘24…

Just drink faster!

broadrun96 · 27 Jul 2022, 13:26 (Ref:4120658)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

That's the spirit (ha ha!)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Just drink faster!

Full of spirits? I'm trying to watch the race not be passed out by first SC please

Hawkwood · 27 Jul 2022, 19:51 (Ref:4120685)

While the glass is definitely full for 2023, I also think it's a little odd to miss the 100th anniversary race despite having a fully designed and built car essentially ready to go.

Simmi · 28 Jul 2022, 06:18 (Ref:4120702)

I'm not sure the budget taps are turned on in quite the same way for BMW as a couple of others. Just my sense.

kdr · 28 Jul 2022, 11:32 (Ref:4120726)

Once again, forgive my ignorance, is there benefits to BMW running a season in IMSA before joining WEC, like is there the same homologation rules in IMSA?

**joeb** · 28 Jul 2022, 16:13 (Ref:4120766)

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Originally Posted by kdr

Once again, forgive my ignorance, is there benefits to BMW running a season in IMSA before joining WEC, like is there the same homologation rules in IMSA?

Well, learning the car is the benefit I suppose. Plus we have now seen that the "locked in homologation" has some wiggle room in Hypercar, so possibly they want to see how the car performs on track before hitting Le Man?

**Adam43** · 28 Jul 2022, 16:29 (Ref:4120768)

I just assumed it was because it was driven by the North American region. They care about IMSA more than WEC. Obviously they care about Le Mans, WEC is just a necessary evil for them?
And as it is NA driven the way it is starting and being built up starts there for ease too.

So no great plan, more just how it is.

Could be wrong. As it is just an assumption. We tend to over think these things and this assumption certainly isn’t over thought!

GriffM3 · 28 Jul 2022, 20:38 (Ref:4120795)

BMW North America finances the IMSA LMDH program and as such they will get the first two cars to compete in 2023.

2024 rumors are Team WRT and RMG running cars in WEC so we will see.

Mike E · 9 Aug 2022, 14:48 (Ref:4122338)

Garage 56 test mule to run in next 30 days

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2022/...programme.html

**joeb** · 9 Aug 2022, 18:03 (Ref:4122360)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

Garage 56 test mule to run in next 30 days

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2022/...programme.html

That is great momentum for the program. I hadn't thought about drivers for a while. In the past I was thinking about recent nascar drivers, but the mention of Rockenfeller is pretty smart, plus he is getting nascar experience on the last two road courses of the season.

Mike E · 20 Aug 2022, 15:29 (Ref:4123272)

Centenary trophy revealed with dodgy voice over

https://youtu.be/IofP_c1xsKo

GT6 · 20 Aug 2022, 15:33 (Ref:4123273)

clicked on that link and while watching the aco sent an email with the video

**PascaLM** · 20 Aug 2022, 21:12 (Ref:4123290)

The trophy will be shown at :

Goodwood revival 2022 (Sept. 16-18)
Chantilly Art & Elegance Richard Mille (Sept. 24-25)
WEC Bahrein (Nov. 12)
Paris - salon Rétromobile (Feb. 1-5)
Saint-Moritz Ice (Feb. 25)

Lutzvic · 22 Aug 2022, 10:58 (Ref:4123421)

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2022/...-for-2023.html

it is Kolles I know....but I will be happy to see a 2 car effort

**Aysedasi** · 22 Aug 2022, 11:24 (Ref:4123424)

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Originally Posted by Lutzvic

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2022/...-for-2023.html

it is Kolles I know....but I will be happy to see a 2 car effort

Absolutely. I'd be delighted to see them on the grid.

GT6 · 22 Aug 2022, 13:38 (Ref:4123429)

Yes we need some independant entries, factory efforts come and go to quickly, plus i have always had a soft spot for the underdog

Lutzvic · 22 Aug 2022, 17:41 (Ref:4123452)

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Originally Posted by GT6

Yes we need some independant entries, factory efforts come and go to quickly, plus i have always had a soft spot for the underdog

soft spot confirmed here as well....

however for me the stake in 2023 is:if Toyota wins it will legitimate last years victories without any OEM participation

**Adam43** · 23 Aug 2022, 00:18 (Ref:4123463)

If Ferrari wins in 2023 it won’t legitimize Ferrari’s victory last year because they couldn’t be bothered to enter.

Toyotas win in 2022 is legit. Whatever.

Lutzvic · 23 Aug 2022, 05:50 (Ref:4123478)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

If Ferrari wins in 2023 it won’t legitimize Ferrari’s victory last year because they couldn’t be bothered to enter.

Toyotas win in 2022 is legit. Whatever.

Of course it is legit, as the years before...wrong formulation from me...I mean revalue the former victories....they are somewhat hollow...
2016 was almost a great victory but there is no almost in racing and certainly not in LM. 2017 was a disaster for Toyota. Since then it is an unbroken winning strike, with a certain connotation. At least for many fans.

**Aysedasi** · 23 Aug 2022, 07:40 (Ref:4123479)

You can only beat those who turn up to race against you. The fact that Audi and Porsche ran away doesn't make the Toyota victories hollow at all in my mind....

Lutzvic · 23 Aug 2022, 08:29 (Ref:4123481)

If you are winning a wrestling competition against children as an adult person, I do not think your gold medal is really shinny just because no other adults entered. This is how I see it. Why Porsche and Audi ran away....it would worth another topic.

**Aysedasi** · 23 Aug 2022, 09:16 (Ref:4123485)

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Originally Posted by Lutzvic

If you are winning a wrestling competition against children as an adult person, I do not think your gold medal is really shinny just because no other adults entered. This is how I see it. Why Porsche and Audi ran away....it would worth another topic.

Not the greatest of analogies to my mind.... I take your point (of course), but at the end of the day, they have their name on the trophy. I'm black and white on Audi and Porsche. They could have stayed to take on Toyota, but they didn't. End of topic....

peetleouf · 23 Aug 2022, 09:27 (Ref:4123486)

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À vaincre sans péril, on triomphe sans gloire.

Pierre Corneille

**Adam43** · 23 Aug 2022, 11:25 (Ref:4123491)

Hollows an even worse expression and shows nothing of what it is to compete in, finish, let alone in first place of any of these 24 hour races. Looked at it that way which years shall we say are hollow and not bother with? Most of them?!

Obviously it will be great to win when there is a bigger field including those names. But it is legit and it isn’t hollow. Just makes it even better. There is nothing they could have done about it.

I suppose it is just natural and easier to look for the bad and not see the good. To stop us questioning our own legitimacy and worth? (General observation, not specific)

These others can do what they want, but the Hypercar performances last year that were hollow and not legitimate are those of Ferrari, Porsche, etc…

It was still difficult and there was still glory.

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