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Old 13 Mar 2024, 22:47 (Ref:4201180)   #76
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Old 16 Mar 2024, 17:08 (Ref:4201448)   #77
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Is BOP bias towards Cadillac this event or something?
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Is BOP bias towards Cadillac this event or something?
Maybe the BoP has been changed since Daytona, has it ?
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Is BOP bias towards Cadillac this event or something?
They were given 66 pounds of ballast with about 13hp bump. The caddy is good at Sebring,
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Old 16 Mar 2024, 17:15 (Ref:4201451)   #80
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I don’t know, I don’t follow all of that stuff between events, all I see is that Cadillac are so much faster than anything else
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Old 16 Mar 2024, 17:17 (Ref:4201452)   #81
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Wait until evening time and cooler temps, that might change the balance quite a bit.
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veeten should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridveeten should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridveeten should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Heaviest with 1060kg, and most power at 520kw.

Porsche at 1049kg, 508kw
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Old 16 Mar 2024, 17:23 (Ref:4201454)   #83
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That power advantage clearly helps but I wouldn't call that an OP BOP. Also as already mentioned, Caddy was always strong here starting in the DPi days and the new car also loves this track.
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That's true, especially here, Belle Isle and others. It is made tough, and can withstand the punishment, but when the sun sets the Porsche comes alive and gets speedy.
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Very small changes compared to Sebring. Now let's wait for WEC BOP
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7/3/2024|Sebring|1055|1030|1060|1044|1049 7/3/2024|Sebring|910|898|918|908|904 7/3/2024|Sebring|512|506|520|513|508 7/3/2024|Sebring|22.75|22.45|22.95|22.7|22.6 7/3/2024|Sebring|9512|8000|8800|8200|8158 7/3/2024|Sebring|0.485308056872038|0.49126213592233|0.490566037735849|0.491379310344828|0.48427073403241 2
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12/1/2023ROAR500500500 500
17/1/2023Daytona 24500500500 500
8/2/2023Sebrign Test520520520 520
13/3/2023Sebring Race520513513 517
31/3/2023Long Beach520515513 515
4/5/2023Laguna Seca520512511 514
4/6/2023Watkins Glen520513513 515
29/6/2023Canadian Tire Motorsports Park520513513 515
21/7/2023Indy Test520513513 515
27/7/2023Road America520513513 515
7/9/2023Indy520512512 514
7/9/2023Road Atlanta520513513 515
10/1/2024ROAR520514510 519
24/1/2024Daytona 24520514510 519
7/3/2024Sebring512506520513508
8/4/2024Long Beach515509520 513
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Energy Allocation (MJ)
-- Bulletin ----- Track ---AcuraBMWCadillacLamborghiniPorsche
12/1/2023ROAR920920920 920
17/1/2023Daytona 24920920920 920
8/2/2023Sebrign Test930930930 930
13/3/2023Sebring Race917905905 912
31/3/2023Long Beach914907903 907
4/5/2023Laguna Seca915902902 907
4/6/2023Watkins Glen917905905 909
29/6/2023Canadian Tire Motorsports Park914902903 907
21/7/2023Indy Test914902903 907
27/7/2023Road America915904904 908
7/9/2023Indy917902902 907
7/9/2023Road Atlanta915903903 907
10/1/2024ROAR920908902 917
24/1/2024Daytona 24920908902 917
7/3/2024Sebring910898918908904
8/4/2024Long Beach913899917 909
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Stint Energy Replenishment Rate (MJ/s)
-- Bulletin ----- Track ---AcuraBMWCadillacLamborghiniPorsche
12/1/2023ROAR232323 23
17/1/2023Daytona 24232323 23
8/2/2023Sebrign Test23.2523.2523.25 23.25
13/3/2023Sebring Race22.92522.62522.625 22.8
31/3/2023Long Beach22.8522.67522.575 22.675
4/5/2023Laguna Seca22.87522.5522.55 22675
4/6/2023Watkins Glen2292522.62522.625 22.725
29/6/2023Canadian Tire Motorsports Park22.8522.5522.575 22.675
21/7/2023Indy Test22.8522.5522.575 22.675
27/7/2023Road America22.87522.622.6 22.7
7/9/2023Indy22.92522.5522.55 22.675
7/9/2023Road Atlanta22.87522.57522.575 22.675
10/1/2024ROAR2322.722.55 22.925
24/1/2024Daytona 242322.722.55 22.925
7/3/2024Sebring22.7522.4522.9522.722.6
8/4/2024Long Beach22.82522.47522.925 22.725
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No changes at all for Max rpm as normal.
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I find it interesting that in WEC we always hear complaints about BOP and about cars being dominant
Meanwhile in IMSA the Caddys have had pole position at all races so far this year and were the fastest cars in all races but failed to win due to errors, crashes , great 30 mins drive by Nasr in Daytona until Long Beach, yet no one is complaining about it(not saying people should)
I guess the nature of IMSA races with a load of FCYs and restarts helps to mask a cars advantage
Finally again interesting how the Caddys are dominant in IMSA but struggling in WEC for performance
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Man, we had to make a whole thread for that instead of in race. It's there but there isn't the bs argument about "purity" of the sport. Possibly the single dumbest thing I hear about sport is the purity of the idea, like it was plucked off a tree in the wilderness
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Finally again interesting how the Caddys are dominant in IMSA but struggling in WEC for performance
I had a bash at trying to answer this here in the Unified thread.
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Weight (Kg)
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12/1/2023ROAR103010301030 1030
17/1/2023Daytona 24103010301030 1030
8/2/2023Sebrign Test103010301030 1030
13/3/2023Sebring Race105410401038 1048
31/3/2023Long Beach104510361031 1036
4/5/2023Laguna Seca104910311030 1038
4/6/2023Watkins Glen105310381037 1043
29/6/2023Canadian Tire Motorsports Park104610311030 1037
21/7/2023Indy Test104610311030 1037
27/7/2023Road America104410301030 1036
7/9/2023Indy104710311030 1037
7/9/2023Road Atlanta104610311030 1037
10/1/2024ROAR107210311030 1051
24/1/2024Daytona 24107210311030 1051
7/3/2024Sebring10551030106010441049
8/4/2024Long Beach106010301058 1052
4/5/2024Laguna Seca106010301052 1045
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Energy Allocation (MJ)
-- Bulletin ----- Track ---AcuraBMWCadillacLamborghiniPorsche
12/1/2023ROAR920920920 920
17/1/2023Daytona 24920920920 920
8/2/2023Sebrign Test930930930 930
13/3/2023Sebring Race917905905 912
31/3/2023Long Beach914907903 907
4/5/2023Laguna Seca915902902 907
4/6/2023Watkins Glen917905905 909
29/6/2023Canadian Tire Motorsports Park914902903 907
21/7/2023Indy Test914902903 907
27/7/2023Road America915904904 908
7/9/2023Indy917902902 907
7/9/2023Road Atlanta915903903 907
10/1/2024ROAR920908902 917
24/1/2024Daytona 24920908902 917
7/3/2024Sebring910898918908904
8/4/2024Long Beach913899917 909
4/5/2024Laguna Seca918894909 905
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-- Bulletin ----- Track ---AcuraBMWCadillacLamborghiniPorsche
12/1/2023ROAR500500500 500
17/1/2023Daytona 24500500500 500
8/2/2023Sebrign Test520520520 520
13/3/2023Sebring Race520513513 517
31/3/2023Long Beach520515513 515
4/5/2023Laguna Seca520512511 514
4/6/2023Watkins Glen520513513 515
29/6/2023Canadian Tire Motorsports Park520513513 515
21/7/2023Indy Test520513513 515
27/7/2023Road America520513513 515
7/9/2023Indy520512512 514
7/9/2023Road Atlanta520513513 515
10/1/2024ROAR520514510 519
24/1/2024Daytona 24520514510 519
7/3/2024Sebring512506520513508
8/4/2024Long Beach515509520 513
4/5/2024Laguna Seca520505515 511
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Stint Energy Replenishment Rate (MJ/s)
-- Bulletin ----- Track ---AcuraBMWCadillacLamborghiniPorsche
12/1/2023ROAR232323 23
17/1/2023Daytona 24232323 23
8/2/2023Sebrign Test23.2523.2523.25 23.25
13/3/2023Sebring Race22.92522.62522.625 22.8
31/3/2023Long Beach22.8522.67522.575 22.675
4/5/2023Laguna Seca22.87522.5522.55 22675
4/6/2023Watkins Glen2292522.62522.625 22.725
29/6/2023Canadian Tire Motorsports Park22.8522.5522.575 22.675
21/7/2023Indy Test22.8522.5522.575 22.675
27/7/2023Road America22.87522.622.6 22.7
7/9/2023Indy22.92522.5522.55 22.675
7/9/2023Road Atlanta22.87522.57522.575 22.675
10/1/2024ROAR2322.722.55 22.925
24/1/2024Daytona 242322.722.55 22.925
7/3/2024Sebring22.7522.4522.9522.722.6
8/4/2024Long Beach22.82522.47522.925 22.725
4/5/2024Laguna Seca22.9522.3522.725 22.625
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Interesting on the line graph that all the cars stayed with very similar P/W ratios through last season, then diverged this year and are finally getting back to similar.
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P/W is converging but at a lower level then previously.
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BOP for Detroit:
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Compared to Laguna Seca the Caddy has more weight now, also less power and more power for BMW's GTP.
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10/1/2024ROAR107210311030 1051
24/1/2024Daytona 24107210311030 1051
7/3/2024Sebring10551030106010441049
8/4/2024Long Beach106010301058 1052
4/5/2024Laguna Seca106010301052 1045
22/5/2024Detroit106010301060 1044
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-- Bulletin ----- Track ---AcuraBMWCadillacLamborghiniPorsche
10/1/2024ROAR520514510 519
24/1/2024Daytona 24520514510 519
7/3/2024Sebring512506520513508
8/4/2024Long Beach515509520 513
4/5/2024Laguna Seca520505515 511
22/5/2024Detroit520512512 511
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Energy Allocation (MJ)
-- Bulletin ----- Track ---AcuraBMWCadillacLamborghiniPorsche
10/1/2024ROAR920908902 917
24/1/2024Daytona 24920908902 917
7/3/2024Sebring910898918908904
8/4/2024Long Beach913899917 909
4/5/2024Laguna Seca918894909 905
22/5/2024Detroit910893902 898
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Stint Energy Replenishment Rate (MJ/s)
-- Bulletin ----- Track ---AcuraBMWCadillacLamborghiniPorsche
10/1/2024ROAR2322.722.55 22.925
24/1/2024Daytona 242322.722.55 22.925
7/3/2024Sebring22.7522.4522.9522.722.6
8/4/2024Long Beach22.82522.47522.925 22.725
4/5/2024Laguna Seca22.9522.3522.725 22.625
22/5/2024Detroit22.7522.32522.55 22.45
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WEC comparison is Detroit and Spa. Except for Lambo, which remains Sebring.
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Quick update for Watkins Glen.

Lambo is back! Less weight, less power.
v. Acura: Lost weight, but lost power
v. BMW: Lost weight, but a little power
v. Cadillac: Gained power
v. Porsche: Lost weight, but a little power

Weight (Kg)
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10/1/2024ROAR107210311030 1051
24/1/2024Daytona 24107210311030 1051
7/3/2024Sebring10551030106010441049
8/4/2024Long Beach106010301058 1052
4/5/2024Laguna Seca106010301052 1045
22/5/2024Detroit106010301060 1044
12/6/2024Watkins Glen10541030104710311046
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10/1/2024ROAR520514510 519
24/1/2024Daytona 24520514510 519
7/3/2024Sebring512506520513508
8/4/2024Long Beach515509520 513
4/5/2024Laguna Seca520505515 511
22/5/2024Detroit520512512 511
12/6/2024Watkins Glen520508511511512
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Energy Allocation (MJ)
-- Bulletin ----- Track ---AcuraBMWCadillacLamborghiniPorsche
10/1/2024ROAR920908902 917
24/1/2024Daytona 24920908902 917
7/3/2024Sebring910898918908904
8/4/2024Long Beach913899917 909
4/5/2024Laguna Seca918894909 905
22/5/2024Detroit910893902 898
12/6/2024Watkins Glen918899905903906
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Stint Energy Replenishment Rate (MJ/s)
-- Bulletin ----- Track ---AcuraBMWCadillacLamborghiniPorsche
10/1/2024ROAR2322.722.55 22.925
24/1/2024Daytona 242322.722.55 22.925
7/3/2024Sebring22.7522.4522.9522.722.6
8/4/2024Long Beach22.82522.47522.925 22.725
4/5/2024Laguna Seca22.9522.3522.725 22.625
22/5/2024Detroit22.7522.32522.55 22.45
12/6/2024Watkins Glen22.9522.47522.62522.57522.650
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tomcug should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Problem for Lambo is that they can't go as light as 1031 kg, according to what some sources claim. Still it'll be interesting to see how they do vs the rest.
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I forgot about that. Yes - it doesn’t help.

Still at least they aren’t pandering to it and giving them more power or increasing everyone if it is still the case.
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Update. On reflection IMSA decide the BoP for BMW was better in Detroit.

Max Power (kW)
-- Bulletin ----- Track ---AcuraBMWCadillacLamborghiniPorsche
10/1/2024ROAR520514510 519
24/1/2024Daytona 24520514510 519
7/3/2024Sebring512506520513508
8/4/2024Long Beach515509520 513
4/5/2024Laguna Seca520505515 511
22/5/2024Detroit520512512 511
12/6/2024Watkins Glen520508511511512
25/7/2024Road America520509513 514
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Weight (Kg)
-- Bulletin ----- Track ---AcuraBMWCadillacLamborghiniPorsche
10/1/2024ROAR107210311030 1051
24/1/2024Daytona 24107210311030 1051
7/3/2024Sebring10551030106010441049
8/4/2024Long Beach106010301058 1052
4/5/2024Laguna Seca106010301052 1045
22/5/2024Detroit106010301060 1044
12/6/2024Watkins Glen10541030104710311046
25/7/2024Road America105910301060 1056
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Stint Energy Replenishment Rate (MJ/s)
-- Bulletin ----- Track ---AcuraBMWCadillacLamborghiniPorsche
10/1/2024ROAR2322.722.55 22.925
24/1/2024Daytona 242322.722.55 22.925
7/3/2024Sebring22.7522.4522.9522.722.6
8/4/2024Long Beach22.82522.47522.925 22.725
4/5/2024Laguna Seca22.9522.3522.725 22.625
22/5/2024Detroit22.7522.32522.55 22.45
12/6/2024Watkins Glen22.9522.47522.62522.57522.65
25/7/2024Road America22.92522.522.7 22.75
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Energy Allocation (MJ)
-- Bulletin ----- Track ---AcuraBMWCadillacLamborghiniPorsche
10/1/2024ROAR920908902 917
24/1/2024Daytona 24920908902 917
7/3/2024Sebring910898918908904
8/4/2024Long Beach913899917 909
4/5/2024Laguna Seca918894909 905
22/5/2024Detroit910893902 898
12/6/2024Watkins Glen918899905903906
25/7/2024Road America917900908 910
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