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There were possibilities that could have been arranged if the decision had been taken at the time A1GP Operations UK went into recievership. Even more importantly there was an option offered to organisers when they were officially out of contract 6 days out from the event. It would certainly have been more attractive than splitting the existing V8 mileage into another race and getting a few museum cars to parade. And probably cheaper. |
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I think this if it works its a much better sign of success.
Instead of taking yourself to the world (Bahrain, Abdu Dhabi) you have the world coming to you. They could create a lot of hype for the event with an IPL style auction or an AFL like draft for the Internationals and make the selection process a media event in itself. |
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Maybe Cocho's next thing will be V8 Supercar Idol, or V8 Supercar Brother. International drivers are kept under 24 hour watch, while constantly playing Colin McRae Rally 2.0 on PSOne, the punters get to vote which drivers are in which car and once the racing starts you can SMS you vote to send a car to the pits and make the international star dance the Tango. I'm sure this will get Cocho the international exposure he desires. |
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Crash test, the whinging seems warranted to me. Is there any other series in the world where they give an unfamiliar driver YOUR car.......dont think so.
Personally i dont see anyway the international thing can work, even as a non championship round, its still dollars that the teams will have to spend to repair cars, which is stupid. Might aswell make the sunday race a reverse grid race Only way i can see this working is if the V8 drivers are paired with internationals in a single make series (ala the celebrity races), thus not risking their championship, or the teams investment (Supercars are a business afterall, just ask RD on his switch to.....holden). And THIS single make series can have their stupid dash for cash crap. I would like to see an extra enduro tho, but still with the same rules as our current 2, same driver for all 3 enduro's. |
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Look at the timing of this thing! Several teams have already selected their endurance race pilots, if this proposal had been around at the end of last season, different decisions may have been made to incorporate international pilots into the mix
As it is, there are stories around to suggest Mr Brabham may be an FPR enduro pilot anyway. Does this put FPR at an advantage? |
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...and why all of a sudden are the international drivers going to bugger up the championship? From my understanding of watching V8s since day dot, the Aussie Superstars are more than capable of having their own accidents. I seem to remember a few years ago Whincup chucking the championship away at Surfers by crashing by himself, and he had a good crack at it again last year. I remember Rick Kelly once crashed into Lowndes in a title fight, and I don't believe Rick is an overseas import. As the race is literally in my street, and I've been to ever one of them since 1991, I'm just chuffed the thing is still happening. At the end of the day, let them have a crack, and if it flops it flops, but there isn't much point in writing it off eight months before it even happens. |
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The celebrity race was just throwing another idea out there, big prize money for the winning V8 driver and international would get your 'attention'. The international exposer doesn't HAVe to be in their cars, they could still just as easily have their normal championship races in the V8s, and race along side the inters in an enduro in a single make car (thus putting more focus on the drivers, thn the series) I'm well aware drivers can throw away their OWN championship, have a think about that wording, is it THEIR championship, or the internationals? I'm all for trying different things, but not at risk of wasting teams money (the only good thing to come from this, would be having ambrose drive here, and NOT be teamed with SBR, maybe teamed with someone like HRT haha) |
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Hate to sound like a broken record, but in the declining years of open wheelers at the event, the punters simply didn't turn up to watch them, they were there for the V8s. As soon as Will Power crashed, it was off to the pub. Last year was a shocker all round, mainly from a mis-information stand point with many punters believing the event wasn't happening. First of all the Indycars pulled the pin, then A1, a lot of people simply though the event wasn't on. Have people stopped to think that if the V8s have the gung-ho tv package they claim to have (especially in the USA), then it is actually going to generate significiant exposure for the series and locations?? |
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How many punters outside of the hardcore fans on this forum know what Christian Fittipaldi, Mark Blundell etc. ever achieved !!!!!!! It will be a bunch of (to the wider public) unknowns driving V8's so what is the difference to having a real international class.
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Remember the international requirement is being set by the people kicking in millions of dollars for this one event, its not about the series, its not about other locations. |
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Would the QLD Government have learned anything since last year and not back an idea without some form of due diligence?
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The rumours doing the rounds were that IMG had no idea they had missed out on the gig. They had a sponsor signed and GP2 just about locked down.
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Well many...look at the crowd figures... not a lot - look at the TV figures...still beats a V8 only race any day though.
So can I veto this in anyway - I don't want my tax money going to a show like this. This isn't going to make international news. As they, themselves said, only Nascar and F1 are still racing - so no drivers that anyone cares about then - so no decent international TV coverage then. And if IMG was treated how was rumoured, that is appalling - even for this government. Can someone explain to me, like I am 6, how this will satisfy the Queensland Government's stated aims of international promotion , bringing tourism $$$ to the Gold Coast that wouldn't have come otherwise and more? |
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The press release for record breaking tickets sales is probably already written, when you take away the part of the track with the largest share of ontrack accomodation of course you are going to have more ticket sales. Yes I know everyone was meant to buy a ticket to be in these units
This idea has it's pro's and cons and change if it is for the better is great, but in the end the board had to agree on this, I can imagine drivers may not have the same opinion. I guess the board are willing to take the punt you never know if you never give it a go. |
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Bizarre concept. Has the virtue of novelty I suppose. Wait and see how it pans out, the regs are not exactly clear.
Someone nominated NASCAR, someone else GT1? Neither was ever likely to happen, while talks with GT1 were held VESA would have found a way to sabotage it, GTs are just a little too close to home to the V8s and they might not compare favourably, so why take the chance? Short of offerring them a ludicrous sum of money, ten million wouldn't do it, 25 probably wouldn't, NASCAR would never take basically a three week break mid season and that close to the race for the chase to come out here. Their schedule is too compact to make overseas trips anymore. GP2 might have been interesting, if it was GP2. If it was GP2 Asia then... well amateur hour would have ensued. But genuine GP2... the decisions were left far too late in the game, this should have been finalised in December if they were serious about attracting an international series this late in the game. They all have to have their calendars in place before season start. Shortened track I'm abivalent towards, as Crashy says it was going to happen anyway. The old ANA will be spewin', no perfect hotel room sighting overlooking the big stop left hander anymore. Wonder what all the hotels on the southern loop have to say about the shortened track, although it might bring room prices down, and those in the North end will be able to charge even more. Presumably this scenario was the one cooked up by VESA by doing as much as they could to satisfy international drawcard requirement, without diluting V8s top billing. How exactly is it a win for V8 Supercar if they pull an international series of any sort to share billing. Its just giving a bunch of international motorsport media the opportunity to ignore V8 Supercar at close range instead of from off shore, while at the some time diluting their domestic news media coverage by print/TV having to split news items to cover two series instead of one. |
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IMG would be one of the most useless promotors when it comes to motorsport I have ever seen. They used to run a significant number of rounds but now it is down to 1 that I can think of - Clipsal - where they only run the corporate hospotality and trade sites under contract from the SAMB. Them and their fee's won't be missed by many!
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