LMS Rnd 6: Interlagos 1000km 9-11 Nov 2007 - Page 4

LeMans.pt · 26 Sep 2007, 19:46 (Ref:2023805)

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Originally Posted by brielga

ASM doubting after last Sunday... Peugeot, Spyker confirmed as well as the Luc Alphand C6R. No Courage, no Modena

Here in Portugal, the team sended a press-release to the Portuguese Autosport newspaper and others, that says that they won't go Brazil because the car owner, the gentlemen-driver Miguel Paes do Amaral has some professional duties in the same weekend… and nothing about the strange things that happened in Silverstone, or even some budget difficulties for such a voyage

Here in Portugal there a very small interest in the Le Mans Series, even if a Portuguese driver (Pedro Lamy) is preparing himself to be the next LMP1 Champion (if nothing happens in Interlagos), but, the few who follow the championship, believes that it´s probably some egoistic thing on Amaral, because he is the car owner and if hi doesn’t race in Brazil and the team wins the championship, we won’t be champion as well…

Well…it’s only what the fans think…

**skycafe** · 27 Sep 2007, 00:26 (Ref:2023970)

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Originally Posted by Tim Northcutt

Does anyone really think that the Norma, the Taurus Lola Diesel, or even the revised Reynard chassis that was made into a hybrid that originally used an ethanol-powered Cosworth engine (the team's name escapes me at the moment) was one of the "best" sportscars in the world and worthy of participating at Le Mans, let alone in an "All Star" event?

With regards to the latter two, the ACO was desirous of promoting diesel and alternate fuels, so Taurus and Nasamax both put efforts into getting onto the world stage of LeMans to begin to showcase the technology (yes, I know, both types had made apperances before.....), so I give it to Taurus and Nasamax on that one. Not that LeMans has too much of a problem with 'sameness' that we are seeing elsewhere in motorsport, but I like that the tappestry always includes something totally alternative. Both efforts were indeed 'underdogs,' but everyone loves an underdog, and I was pulling for Taurus especially to make it to the end (yes, I hopelessly tilt at windmills

).

Norma on the other hand....

robert

The359 · 27 Sep 2007, 05:18 (Ref:2024049)

The ACO also tends to like originality, which is part of the reason you'll almost always see a Spyker, and why we saw oddities like the Morgan.

brielga · 27 Sep 2007, 05:47 (Ref:2024058)

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Originally Posted by LeMans.pt

Here in Portugal, the team sended a press-release to the Portuguese Autosport newspaper and others, that says that they won't go Brazil because the car owner, the gentlemen-driver Miguel Paes do Amaral has some professional duties in the same weekend… and nothing about the strange things that happened in Silverstone, or even some budget difficulties for such a voyage

Here in Portugal there a very small interest in the Le Mans Series, even if a Portuguese driver (Pedro Lamy) is preparing himself to be the next LMP1 Champion (if nothing happens in Interlagos), but, the few who follow the championship, believes that it´s probably some egoistic thing on Amaral, because he is the car owner and if hi doesn’t race in Brazil and the team wins the championship, we won’t be champion as well…

Well…it’s only what the fans think…

The issue is they cannot be champions anyway!!! I do not think Amaral or the team can be motivated knowing that.

http://www.planetlemans.com/cmsv2/in...k=view&id=3271

LeMans.pt · 27 Sep 2007, 07:31 (Ref:2024097)

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Originally Posted by brielga

The issue is they cannot be champions anyway!!! I do not think Amaral or the team can be motivated knowing that.

http://www.planetlemans.com/cmsv2/in...k=view&id=3271

Yes... i´ve read it, but officially thats not the team's excuse to exclude Interlagos... Anyway, it a fact that it would be extremely difficult to recovered the 6 point difference to RML, and it seems that ASM already achieved the LMP2 preselection do Le Mans, and that was probably the number one objective for the season, so... GO LAMY!!!

brielga · 27 Sep 2007, 07:42 (Ref:2024106)

I can tell you the drivers wanted the championship badly, they were SOOOO upset at Silverstone (and rightfully so). Amaral tends to be always very charming and politically correct so he seemed to be fine with the result, however he did mention the item during the press conference. At any rate they have nothing to prove, they should have been champion in 06, they could have been in 07 and they are top notch. Parabens!!!

SebringMG · 27 Sep 2007, 08:02 (Ref:2024123)

No certainly they are a top notch operation!! Any thoughts on a new car for next year yet ? They must be considering it due to the increased pace of the Zytek package this year at times!!

brielga · 27 Sep 2007, 11:17 (Ref:2024308)

it is almost 100% sure the car won't be this Lola chassis, my latest reports indicate many options are open....

LeMans.pt · 27 Sep 2007, 11:48 (Ref:2024337)

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Originally Posted by brielga

it is almost 100% sure the car won't be this Lola chassis, my latest reports indicate many options are open....

From where did you get that information bye the way? The information about LMS here in Portugal is to scarce, and not even the presence of 3 pilots (Lamy, Barbosa e Amaral) and 1 team (Quifel ASM) is sufficient for other kind of approach from the so call "motorsport newspapers".... to much F1!!!

Well, i've read something about a RS Spyder possibility in the 2007 LMS silly Season, but it seams that it's was really a "silly" idea, and i also read something in some french forums about ASM doing LMP1 with the new LOLA B07....hum....fantasy perhaps, because LMP1 seams to expensive for "our" team reality.

Zytek, perhaps? The car seems to be the best LMP2 available (even if there is some doubt about the potentiality of the future 1-2 private RS Spyder )

What is your information regarding ASM in 2008??

brielga · 27 Sep 2007, 13:44 (Ref:2024401)

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Originally Posted by LeMans.pt

From where did you get that information bye the way? The information about LMS here in Portugal is to scarce, and not even the presence of 3 pilots (Lamy, Barbosa e Amaral) and 1 team (Quifel ASM) is sufficient for other kind of approach from the so call "motorsport newspapers".... to much F1!!!

Well, i've read something about a RS Spyder possibility in the 2007 LMS silly Season, but it seams that it's was really a "silly" idea, and i also read something in some french forums about ASM doing LMP1 with the new LOLA B07....hum....fantasy perhaps, because LMP1 seams to expensive for "our" team reality.

Zytek, perhaps? The car seems to be the best LMP2 available (even if there is some doubt about the potentiality of the future 1-2 private RS Spyder )

What is your information regarding ASM in 2008??

Epa, meu amigo! I cannot reveal my sources just like that... You will read it in Planetlemans in due time

. Look at your PM btw.

EuropaBambaataa · 27 Sep 2007, 13:49 (Ref:2024404)

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Originally Posted by LeMans.pt

Well, i've read something about a RS Spyder possibility in the 2007 LMS silly Season, but it seams that it's was really a "silly" idea, and i also read something in some french forums about ASM doing LMP1 with the new LOLA B07....hum....fantasy perhaps, because LMP1 seams to expensive for "our" team reality.

The Portuguese Autosport said something about a move to LMP1 with a Pescarolo in the Spa report, and that the Porsche is too expensive.

Fogelhund · 27 Sep 2007, 14:59 (Ref:2024446)

DSC is suggesting eight proto's total for Interlagos... that's both classes combined.

canam · 27 Sep 2007, 15:23 (Ref:2024468)

8 P cars. If this proves correct, it will be a half points race. Peugeot should pay Creation not to come and get Lamy and Co. to cruise round to finish third...and win the championship.

It is a trickly situation for the LMS promoters. If they cancel the race, they will be potentially liable for (entry) fees, non-recoverable hotel booking costs etc reimbursements. If they don't cancel the race, it will hugely embarrassing.

Perhaps the ACO should say that all participants at Interlagos (who had full LMS season entries) will get an auto entry for 2008 LM or a 50% reduction in next year's entry fees?

LeMans.pt · 27 Sep 2007, 16:05 (Ref:2024488)

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Originally Posted by EuropaBambaataa

The Portuguese Autosport said something about a move to LMP1 with a Pescarolo in the Spa report, and that the Porsche is too expensive.

I don´t remember seeing something like that. I remember the talk about the Porsche, but nothing about a "Pesca"....

Even so, it would be a bad move. The team is very limited in sponsorships, there is no interest on the biggest Portuguese Enterprises (more preoccupied with Monteiro on WTCC e Carlos Sousa on Off-Road) and besides that, in my opinion, it´s better to win on LMP2 than fight for a single point on LMP1...

brielga · 27 Sep 2007, 16:09 (Ref:2024493)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

DSC is suggesting eight proto's total for Interlagos... that's both classes combined.

My friend Mariantic keeps a very good record in his site, what I know is 2x Pugs, 1 Pesca, Creation, Andretti Green and Embassy.

I guess Zytek and RML are among the probable or maybe 2 Zyteks. Or maybe Horag??

Who is a certain NO: Courage, RfH, Chamberlain, Quifel ASM, Charouz, Barazi, Rollcentre, Brookladdie, Saulnier

Speedman · 27 Sep 2007, 16:22 (Ref:2024506)

Add to GT2 list Speedy Racing Team Spyker with Jonny Kane, Andrea Belicchi and Andrea Chiesa.

Click on link: http://www.mariantic.co.uk/lmp/MM07.asp for list of other entries.

Justin Moran · 27 Sep 2007, 16:50 (Ref:2024523)

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Originally Posted by brielga

My friend Mariantic keeps a very good record in his site, what I know is 2x Pugs, 1 Pesca, Creation, Andretti Green and Embassy.

I guess Zytek and RML are among the probable or maybe 2 Zyteks. Or maybe Horag??

Who is a certain NO: Courage, RfH, Chamberlain, Quifel ASM, Charouz, Barazi, Rollcentre, Brookladdie, Saulnier

Im pretty sure RML wont go to Interlagos on the grounds that they dont need to in order to win the Series. Half points for a low entry is what they were hoping for! Less expense and a title to boot!

KA · 27 Sep 2007, 17:12 (Ref:2024539)

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Originally Posted by brielga

My friend Mariantic keeps a very good record in his site, what I know is 2x Pugs, 1 Pesca, Creation, Andretti Green and Embassy.

I guess Zytek and RML are among the probable or maybe 2 Zyteks. Or maybe Horag??

Who is a certain NO: Courage, RfH, Chamberlain, Quifel ASM, Charouz, Barazi, Rollcentre, Brookladdie, Saulnier

DSC suggest these 8:
2X Pugs, Creation, Pesca, Embassy Radical, plus Barazi, Pierre Bruneau's Pilbeam and the Randaccio Lucchini....

brielga · 27 Sep 2007, 19:43 (Ref:2024644)

indeed, Barazi will be there with the full team

Zurbert82 · 28 Sep 2007, 00:34 (Ref:2024779)

AGR denied the rumor that they'd be there. Lets hope more teams make the trek to Brazil, or the race will be an embarassment.

HORNDAWG · 28 Sep 2007, 05:11 (Ref:2024863)

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Originally Posted by Zurbert82

AGR denied the rumor that they'd be there. Lets hope more teams make the trek to Brazil, or the race will be an embarassment.

First, it was a story at AutoWeek not a rumor. link And second, can you point me to a retraction/denial of the story by AGR? link?

L.P.

**Bentley03** · 28 Sep 2007, 08:05 (Ref:2024924)

So, 8 prototypes (according to DSC) and five GT2's (according to Planet LeMans). That's 13 cars confirmed (and not a single GT1).

Graham Goodwin · 28 Sep 2007, 08:06 (Ref:2024925)

I can tell you that AGR told me on the record that the car won't be there if that helps?

ss_collins · 28 Sep 2007, 08:23 (Ref:2024933)

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First, it was a story at AutoWeek not a rumor. link And second, can you point me to a retraction/denial of the story by AGR? link?

Yes we were told the same by the Green man himself... I would be stunned to see AGR at interlagos, I think its time to put that one firmly to bed.

KA · 28 Sep 2007, 08:35 (Ref:2024941)

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Originally Posted by Zurbert82

AGR denied the rumor that they'd be there. Lets hope more teams make the trek to Brazil, or the race will be an embarassment.

I don't think there's any question about it being an embarassment- it already is...

Is there any prospect of picking up some local entries- even if it takes running an 'Invitation' class for local cars that aren't ACO-legal....?

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