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3 Feb 2004, 00:07 (Ref:1538532) | #76 | ||
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I feel we are really starting to get somewhere now.
Information just faxed to me from Ian Rimmer in the U.K. thanks Ian. On a Motor Racing Developments letterhead dated 22nd March 1972 , and signed by Ralph Bellamy as Chief Designer . The following. The rollover bars on the following racing cars comply to FIA Specification , article 297 of the FIA regulations 1972. BT35/48 BT35/49 BT35/50 BT35/51 BT35/52 , the last added in pencil. So now we are looking for even more of these critters. As up to now the last we had was BT35-44, and I have a seperate note re. a BT35-47 Bryan. |
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4 Feb 2004, 17:25 (Ref:1538539) | #77 | ||
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Bryan,
Reference the 1972 MRD letter on BT35's up to #52. My BT36-10 has an updated rollover bar with horizontal head rest barand support plate. I assume that is the new FIA reg. arcticle 297 that was required in 72. I am wondering if these BT35's (#48-#52)would be F3 cars req. FIA compliance? Last edited by John Turner; 9 Mar 2006 at 11:44. Reason: Thread breakdown alteration |
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9 Feb 2004, 16:16 (Ref:1538541) | #78 | ||
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BT35-10 (with wrong wing) is currently for sale on Ebay.
See: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEBWA%3AIT Has anyone got further information on this car ? |
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9 Feb 2004, 16:26 (Ref:1538542) | #79 | ||
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9 Feb 2004, 22:54 (Ref:1538543) | #80 | ||
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Thank you , I have nothing on BT35-10 , given underneath all the incorrect add ons , it looks like it may be a proper FB car from new , I have one name associated with the car , but that is 1990's and only in the USA. Bryan. |
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13 Feb 2004, 13:50 (Ref:1538544) | #81 | ||
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A little extension of BT35s in Canada FB series
In 1971 June [Edmonton] we have Al Justason and Tom Morre in BT35s. So these are cars with original owners I guess. [Justason retains his in 72] By the Mont Tremblant race in July we also have Brian Robertson in an Opert BT35 [perhaps also raced at Edmonton] and Maurice McCaig in a BT35 Chris |
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14 Feb 2004, 09:10 (Ref:1538545) | #82 | ||
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Thanks Chris.
That reminded me to go look at my earlier post on some of these. So, Al Justason into 1972. Tom Moore June 1971 , July, Mt Tremblant , Opert/ Robertson , still in Sept 1971. July as above Maurice McCraig. Sept, 1971 Ray Folland . Oct. 1971 , Alan Lader Oct. 1971 , Maurice McCraig. One would suspect BT35-10 will be one of these, but which.? BT35's , It is not that I have a preference for them, just fascination. If we assume [ bad I know ] , that we are trying to sort out at least 51 cars, BT35-1 to BT35-52 , less BT35-13 . Lets see where we are , in regards either a report in period or current. Corrections happily taken. BT35-1 TO BT35-10 all mentioned in despatches. BT35-11/12/14 nothing. BT35-15 , Prob Ian Rimmer U.K. BT35-16/17/18 , nothing BT35-19 USA. BT35-20/21 , nothing. BT35-22 UK. BT35-23 Nothing BT35-24 I believe in US. BT35-25 nothing. BT35-26 USA. BT35-27 I believe USA. BT35-28 UK BT35-29 nothing BT35-30 Sweden 1971 BT35-31 and 32 poss. same owner in USA. BT35-33 Mathews US. BT35-34 nothing BT35-35 UK. in 1990's BT35-36 Aust. since 1972. BT35-37/38/39/40 nothing. BT35-41 U.S. BT35-42 / -43 nothing BT35-44 now US. BT35-45 /46 nothing BT35-47 U.K. BT35-48/49/50/51/52 nothing. Two we dont know about are a BT35 F3 in a Swiss museum, advised by phdm privately, and Maverick motorsport have a pretty sad looking basket case for sale on racecarsdirect. Have I missed any.???? I would think that a few will still be lurking around in sad states or totalled in Italy, probably old F3's, and quite a few went to Sweden in period. I expect all the gaps filled in by morning please. Bryan. |
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17 Feb 2004, 10:18 (Ref:1538549) | #83 | ||
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Some more digging in Canadian race results for 1973 gives us the following updates on Brabhams
At Westwood, 27th May 1973 BT35s Scott Mackenzie Cam MacKenzie Al Justason At Edmonton Scott Mackenzie hurts himself in a shunt and the car passes later in the season to Rick Forest [who wins at Gimli R6, and places 2nd at Mosport, R7] At Debert, R5, Roos races an Opert BT35, but at Mosport R7, he has a new BT40 Chris Last edited by John Turner; 9 Mar 2006 at 11:47. Reason: Thread breakdown alteration |
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17 Feb 2004, 16:59 (Ref:1538550) | #84 | ||
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Suppose I had better add a little confusion to the debate
I am the proud owner of BT35X-1, the late Sir Nicholas Williamson's hillclimb car. I found the bits rusting away in the shed of a house that was being cleared, following a tip off from an acquaintance; the poor car was in a bit of a state as you can see from the pics. I acquired the car along with a spare space frame and a few other bits. I can’t remember the number of the other space frame for certain, but I think it might have been BT35-17. I swapped this space frame, for bits that I needed to rebuild BT35X-1, with a chap who planned to rebuild it into a complete car, although I don’t know for certain if he actually did. The spare space frame had been much modified at some point, the top rails of the engine bay were tapered quite sharply towards the rear of the car, rather than being parallel as they are on X1, and the engine mounts were quite different. I don’t know what engine had been used in this car but it certainly was not one of the ubiquitous Ford derivatives. All of the running gear of this car had been used in the construction of a space framed Mk1 Escort special saloon race car, which I also acquired at the time, and still own. During the rebuild of BT35X-1 I started a dialogue with Sir Nicholas and I retain the letters that he wrote to me on the subject. The plan was to re-unite him with the car once it was finished. Sadly he passed away before the car was complete. I am rather busy with other activities these days, but sooner or later I will re-unite the car with the hills it was built to compete on. |
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17 Feb 2004, 17:00 (Ref:1538551) | #85 | ||
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18 Feb 2004, 01:12 (Ref:1538554) | #88 | ||
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Chris Roden I saw one of your posts on the VSCC forum, how nice to see you here. -and photos as well!
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20 Feb 2004, 19:09 (Ref:1538555) | #89 | ||
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Hi Chris,
Please could you confirm the chassis plate number for your BT35X. I am not sure if the correct format is BT35X-#XX? Ian |
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23 Feb 2004, 10:09 (Ref:1538557) | #91 | ||
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Chris.
Thank you for showing your car in the before and after stages. Out of research , do the steering arms attach to the front uprights via 1 x 3/8'' bolt and 2 x 1/4'' bolts , or are there 3 x 1/4'' bolts holding the steering plates to the uprights. Mine and Ian Henderson's both have 2 x 1/4''. I think , but stand corrected that the BT35 and BT36 had the latter , and the earlier cars the 3 x 1/4'' , or possibly this was a full conversion to 20'' front tyres. Anybody know.??? Good to see you also recieved the lovely alloy firebomb bracket. Did you get the alloy tube that carries the wiring loom front to rear.?? Bryan. |
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23 Feb 2004, 10:14 (Ref:1538558) | #92 | ||
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Chris .
Re. the other chassis , any more info on where it came from and went to would certainly assist. If it was BT35-17 , I have absolutely nothing against that no. Any one have any clues.??? Bryan. |
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24 Feb 2004, 18:07 (Ref:1538559) | #93 | ||
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Hi Chris,
I did see your BT35X twice in 1977 at hillclimb events driven by Peter Kaye. He won the UK 1.6L hillclimb championship that year with the car. FVA engine and some special front bodywork and later style rear wing. Ian |
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26 Apr 2004, 09:28 (Ref:1538635) | #94 | ||
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Interestingly , I was just looking at an advert. M.R.E. inside front cover Autosport 27/1/1972.
For Sale . 1] BT35 Holbay R71 ex Brendan McInery, which should make that BT35-1 , which went to Gerge Pinhol, and for sale again 28-10-1971 , and now again for sale Jan 1972. 3]ex. Randy Lewis BT35. Regards Bryan. Last edited by John Turner; 9 Mar 2006 at 11:52. Reason: Thread breakdown alteration |
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22 Aug 2004, 13:06 (Ref:1538689) | #95 | ||
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Just surfing, I remember a BT35 in West Aus raced by Dominic Mannello & true to his heritage it ran a Fiat twin cam. This was mid 70s.
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23 Aug 2004, 10:23 (Ref:1538690) | #96 | ||
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Cavvy,
The Dominic Mannello car is a BT35/36 bodied rebuild of the ex Fred Wheelhouse BT23 type Jane /Repco car from Victoria , car is now owned ,still in Western Australia by Neil McCrudden. Bryan Miller. |
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7 Nov 2004, 20:22 (Ref:1538696) | #97 | ||
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I've been working through this thread identifying Sprint BT35s.
The ones I can't identify are: Brabham-Ford BDA BT35 (1.6) - Tim Painter once in 1977 (shared with Andy Fraser?) Brabham-Ford BDA BT35 (1.6) - Andy Fraser once in 1977 (shared with Tim Painter?) Brabham-Cosworth BDE BT35 (2.0) - Bob Marsland once in 1973 The BT35s should fit into our histories but I haven't been able to connect them. Thanks Allen Last edited by John Turner; 11 Mar 2006 at 10:41. Reason: Thread breakdown alteration |
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16 Dec 2004, 20:34 (Ref:1538711) | #98 | ||
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Ferreting On
Currently awaiting replies on the following:
a) Tim Painter/Andy Fraser BT35 sprinted in 1977 b) Chris Seaman's Brabham 'whatever' which he still owns Will post results as soon as they appear in my in tray |
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18 Dec 2004, 12:47 (Ref:1538714) | #99 | ||
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BT35 Chassis Number
The correct chassis number for the BT35 sprinted and hillclimbed by.....
Rob Turnbull, Andy Fraser and Tim Painter is BT35-06 This information has come from Marcus Pye who compiled the FIA forms for the car. Hope tha closes another loop hole. |
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18 Dec 2004, 16:30 (Ref:1538715) | #100 | |
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Are you still looking for information on the Jimmy Fuller BT35? I saw 8mm cine film of it racing in Guyana in 1972 when I was in Antigua last week (and Jimmy drove past in his Evo7 when we were in the baggage check in queue at the airport!).
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