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1) I like your fantasy list, it's precisely what I'd like to see. 2) That is true. There are a few RSRs hanging around North America that could find a home in GTE-Am. Chris |
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Dyson Racing and Dempsey Racing should get another car because there is not replacement parts for Lola. I would like to retrieve the names GTO and GTU for GT categories |
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giuseppe risi came back to his first job, apparently hasn't anymore the economic warranties to run again in ALMS... i don't think that things will change next year. Watching that list, there is a really science fiction entry...
1) highcroft didn't have the budget to run an arx-03 backed by honda and michelin, how could they run an r18? 2) toyota north america won't never exist, because will be useless for them to run as toyota in north america and not as lexus 3) will hard for dyson to end this season with their lola, 0% of chances to see them again with a lola in the future. (same for dempsey) 4) delta wing could run some race like 6h of laguna seca, but doubt will be a full entry. 5) i really hope that there will be a z4 gte 6) i don't think that AJR will use again a evora after this season... surely they don't desire to have an other one... 7) a GTE version of R8 was rumored since 2011, doubt that will be built. |
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1. I guess they could if Audi payed them enough $$$, but why they would want to invest millions in what is the joke of an LMP1 class in the ALMS is beyond me. 2. I can see Toyota wanting the TS030 stateside for marketing reasons, however a lone WEC round would provide that. Although, to be honest, I wouldn't be suprised to see them do a one-off at Laguna or Long Beach in California, I just can't see them investing in a full ALMS schedule. 3. Dyson is a massive question mark for 2013, will the team continue with the Lolas, go to an HPD, leave the ALMS P1 class for P2, GT or DP in Grand Am, shut down? I honestly don't know. Although it would appear that Dyson is becoming less of a professional team. I'm going to go out on a limb and say Dempsey Racing will race a Kodewa LMP2 in the World Endurance Championship (unless a new closed top P2 option comes from Oreca) 4. I see this going the way of the Abruzzi, sadly. 5. I really hope so as well. 6. God only knows what AJR will do, if the GTC is removed and replaced by GTE Am, I wouldn't be suprised to see them either upgrade to the RSR or go race in Grand Am GT. 7. Agree, IMSA and the ACO seem to be defiant with this, sadly, and I doubt we will see an R8 in the ALMS in the near future. |
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And that could be death for the Lotus as well. Alex could find it easier to be like TRG and run a couple GTE-AM cars for some lucky rich *******s. As painful as it sounds GTE-AM could be what helps keep the series afloat. Bring in some more Ed Browns and some new big sponsors.
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I don't see how GTE-AM is going to bring in any more rich punters than GTC or LMPC would.
if anything it would push teams away as the running cost for a GTE car is far more. |
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2) They have as much reason to call themselves Toyota as they do Lexus. I really don't understand your point here. 3) The Lola situation isn't solved. The company isn't dead yet. They need a savior and one may well come. Dempsey and Dyson's 2013 programs will hinge on a Lola solution more than anything. But as far as we know, while exploring other options, both seem to be pushing ahead with Lola for now. 4) I could see a full season Deltawing effort. Would be interesting to see if Nissan of America gets invested in the program. But the program does have roots and major backers here anyway, so who knows what the future of the car will be? 6) Who knows what Lotus is doing with that program? But Bill Sweedler put AJR and Lotus in their marriage and unless he decides he wants to race something else there is no reason to believe the Lotus goes away. 7) Private teams keep pushing for it, and AoA and AG are in agreement that it would be nice to sell and service more cars in America. Who knows? Maybe they get their stall test issue sorted at an acceptable price. (Or by waiver, which would be very inexpensive.) Chris |
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I don't see how this is going to help the ALMS except for getting rid of spec racing. Also, what happens if Dyson leaves LMP1? Can you really have a one car overall class??? |
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It's been confirmed during Speed's LM24 broadcast that Duncan Dayton was seen snooping around the Audi Sport paddock and garages and that he may've had talks with Wolfgang Ulrich, Rupert Stadler, and Martin Wintercorn (Audi Sport boss, Audi AG chairman and Volkswagen Group chairman respectivly). Can't really conclude much at this stage, though.
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Obviously options are thin, as is money, especially with a rules change coming in 2014, but it would be a fairly dramatic shake-up for Dyson to leave P1 after this season. I suspect they run one Lola in 2013, with an outside shot at selling seats in the old generation car to somebody, and we have another year of a three-car field in P1. Worst case scenario, Dyson and Smith limp through the end of 2013 in what is essentially a five year old car; the B"11"/"66" wink-wink, nudge-nudge. I really hope the Lola situation gets sorted out before January 2013... Chris |
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As for the Audis: GTE-Am requires cars in last year's spec. Since there isn't a 2011 GTE-spec Audi I am not sure they could qualify for AM. Remember how Waltrip had to race in Pro last year at LM because they had then-new 458? |
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10 Jul 2012, 11:48 (Ref:3104574) | #88 | |
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Assuming their isn't an overlap WEC race that same weekend, anyone think Audi and Toyota and maybe a few more LMPs might come over to race 2013 Petit Le Mans?
I figured they might try to win a big enduro and get as much use out of their soon to be obsolete cars. |
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But if all else fails, why not ditch the LMP cars and concentrate on GT cars. Maybe they could merge Grand-Am if they can ditch their DPs too. |
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All of these Audi R8 problems can be solved by a wavier. The ALMS does not have to follow strict ACO rules. Also do you guys think there is 0 chance that P2 and PC merge. It gives you a really nice class if they go that route. |
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Libra , first on the list in P2 ..... your aving a giraffe mate !!!
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But yes, I do agree that at least in the short-term, creating a GT-Am class in ALMS is going to cleave the only watchable class into two smaller, less interesting classes. I'd wager that a couple of the GTC 'gentlemen' might make the step into Am, and you might see someone like Krohn or Waltrip enter some more ALMS rounds, but I don't see it as being overall a stellar idea. Then again, GTC's a dud as a single-make class and GT3 seems to be a beehive just waiting to be kicked over, so I'm not sure WTF they should do at this point. |
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I think GT3 is too close to GTE to be an option. So here goes: LMP - Combined prototype class of P1/2. Possible one year transitional package for LMPC that will put them in the hunt, but ideally no. One prototype class, period. The only issue would be with Pickett wanting to do Le Mans, we would need to create a way to keep him legal for that race in P1...and keep him in the series. LMPC - GONE GT - GTE spec, all pros or pro-ams, but no "Am" category. GTC - GT Cup car class, significantly opened rules for a wide range of makes and models, with significantly less aero than GTE. Look to GA GT or WC GT for the basic model and refine from there. |
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Yeah but two classes with 2-3 cars is a bit pathetic. You can say "it will get better" for one year, I'll give IMSA a pass for that. We're getting through year 2 of these sort of numbers, and there don't appear to be any lines forming of eager would-be competitors at this point for 2013. Something has to be done, status quo does not appear to be working.
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If Picket has ambitions of getting a Porsche or supported Honda his ultimate ambitions may lay elsewhere. With Dyson it seems the ideal time to move to the Mazda diesel, but only if lmp2 is top class.
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And with that I'm taking at least a month break as it's summer and if I want to be depressed I'll just work 12 hours a day. Sportscars should be my break and enjoyable, not a painful task of weeding through the moaning about how much smarter everyone is than the series/team managers and owners. |
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