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22 Apr 2011, 21:34 (Ref:2868375) | #76 | ||
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first off the hire karts will be slow, theyre half the speed of a kf3 so even if you are close to the lap record at warden law it wont be a true test of ehat youd be like in a kf3
in terms of getting into super 1 ive posted on here before several times that to qualify for super 1/a national a licence that you will need at least a years experience at club level and have raced at more than 3 tracks in the same class. as far as im aware there are NO clubs in the country that run kf3 apart from super 1 at national level, so you would have to do rotax or tkm at club level for at least a year at more than 3 tracks to get a national a licence, then sell the kart and buy a kf3 kart for super 1. again costs wise you would need at least 5000 quid, but realistically a minimum of 10000 quid, you can spend anywhere upto and above 50k to be competative. adam ive tried to be useful and coax you into realising that your ambitions for super1 and beyond are misguided at best in the other threads that you have posted so this will be my last post on the matter, PLEASE take my advice and bring yourself back down to earth, if your serious about racing then go to warden law, see what 2 stroke racing they do there, buy a kart and start testing, sit your arks and start racing at club level, ONLY then will you realise how tough racing is, and lets be honest, no offence to warden law but the club racing scene up there is tiny in comparison to the rest of the country, go to somewhere like 3 sisters, whilton mill and kimbolton and you will be in for a MASSIVE shock at how competative even club racing can be. |
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22 Apr 2011, 22:19 (Ref:2868388) | #77 | ||
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so what you are saying is iv got hardly any chance of getting past club karting and like no chance of f1
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22 Apr 2011, 22:22 (Ref:2868389) | #78 | ||
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iv looked at KF3 because i seen super 1 on tv today and someone sponsered by McLaren races KF3 and lewis hamilton raced in JICA which is what changed to KF3 so KF3 is the only way of getting to F1
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I am getting pretty sick of the tone of your posts if i'm honest. You are ignorant beyond remark. You rebuff any advice (from knowledgeable posters) with some theoretical claptrap about Ayrton Senna etc. From what i have gathered from your posts thus far is: You have been to Warden Law. You liked it. Some bloke said your were alright. Your the next British F1 world Champion..... Thats roughly the same as me thinking i am the next Valentino Rossi after the first time i rode a bike without stabilisers. But please, go out and prove me wrong and serve me some humble pie. (I will defrost a pizza just incase though) |
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22 Apr 2011, 23:10 (Ref:2868403) | #80 | ||
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so what can I do to try and have a go at attempting my goal
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22 Apr 2011, 23:20 (Ref:2868409) | #81 | ||
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Exactly what ascarracinguk and the other contributors have been saying.
Get along to your local club (warden law i presume) and see what classes they run, and get involved. You may find some small operations who are willing to run your kart for you at a race weekend, and possibly store it. They do exist, but you will have to get down there and see. Forget anything of Paul Carr Racing standards though, keep an eye out for the larger awnings that have more than 2 karts in them. |
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22 Apr 2011, 23:23 (Ref:2868410) | #82 | ||
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they run tkm and max jnr and snr both
so mygoal is the extreamly unlikley getting to f1 so how should i start club jnr max to get a national A licence then KF3 super 1 till im 16 then KF2 like lewis hamilton then cars (if i get that far which i probably wont) if im 14 now what age would i be when i got to super (if i get there) Last edited by adam1312; 22 Apr 2011 at 23:28. |
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23 Apr 2011, 06:01 (Ref:2868453) | #83 | ||
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ok so youve determined they run junior tkm and junior rotax, its a good start, you now need to see how much money your parents can afford to spend on you!....that will determine what class you can race in! it will cost about £2000 to buy a kart, engines, racewear, tools etc. your more likely to get a decent tkm rather than a rotax for that kind of money. when you know how much you can spend, go on karting.co.uk they have a marketplace on there where you can buy second hand karts, make sure the kart is fully legal to race in msa races and is in a good condition, SOME people will sell old tat just to get rid of it so be careful!
when youve found a kart you like, go buy it, and get out testing, once your fast enough, sit your arks test then start racing. its april now, so IF your parents have got the money it will take at least a month to go buy all your stuff, then another month AT LEAST of practicing to be up to speed, so you could sit your arks in july probably, and race the last half of the season. youd then need AT LEAST 2012 at club level first at one track, then 2013 at several tracks and MAYBE super 1, so id guess youd be 16 by then. just out of interest you mentioned you saw kf3 on tv with a lad sponsored by mclaren, that was your reason that you wanted to do kf3.....without sounding harsh, is getting sponsored by mclaren important for you?.....what makes you think that your better than 30 other drivers in kf3 that would get you mclarens sponsorship over drivers that have years of experience? |
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23 Apr 2011, 07:49 (Ref:2868486) | #84 | ||
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No that's not the reson I want to do kf3, the reason is, I want to become an f1 driver (unlikley but I want to) lewis Hamilton raced jica which is what kf3 is now Paul di resta raced jica. This guy is sponsered by mclaren so he must have at least a chance of getting to f1. So it look like if you want to get to f1 you have to race fk3, but you don't have to start young mark webber stares kartinf aged 14.
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24 Apr 2011, 18:26 (Ref:2869148) | #85 | ||
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How hard are KF3 karts to drive?
How hard are KF3 karts to drive:
How careful do you have to be on the throttle? How hard is it to do competitive lap times? How much harder are they to drive than hire or slow karts? Ect |
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24 Apr 2011, 19:18 (Ref:2869172) | #86 | |
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I once drove a Porsche 911 round Croft on one of those driving experience things. The instructor said 'hey, you're quite quick'. So how do I go about getting a works Audi drive at the Le Mans 24 hours? Should I just email Wolfgang Ullrich and take it from there? Thanks.
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24 Apr 2011, 19:38 (Ref:2869188) | #87 | ||
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its not the same as that because i need to get a licence which requires you to do 6 races which would be experience so i would be able to race at super 1 then if i was good which if your quick it means you are. you are saying do one track day then drive for audi in le mans. and im asking about driving the kart anyway
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24 Apr 2011, 19:42 (Ref:2869196) | #88 | ||
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adam, Super Hans is pulling your leg. This isn't that much of a surprise and in a way he is helping. Listen to what people have to say and take it on board. Otherwise they'll be more comments like that and not just on forums either.
Looking above people are giving you some good pointers and letting you have the benefit of their experience. You don't have to follow all of it, but don't ignore it. For interest, to get a National A in car racing you need to get a licence then gain experience. Eventually you can gain more experience, get an internal licence and race at Le Mans. Talent and cash notwithstanding. |
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YOUR TOO OLD TO EVER BE PICKED UP BY MCLEARN!!
Stop asking rubbish questions about how hard is this, how hard is that. You need to get a race licence first! |
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compared to a hire kart they are 2-3 times quicker, accelerate like theyre going to rip the skin off your face, have a massive amount of grip so after 10 laps your arms will feel like falling off. basically the day after racing one you will feel like youve been spun around in a washing mashine on fast spin and shaken up like a coke can!.....i aint joking! in terms of how hard they are to drive.....it depends on your perspective, when i first started testing a tkm i was 10 seconds a lap off the pace, it took me 3 test days, about 200 laps to get witthin 2 seconds of the pace, by the end of my fist year i was within 1 second of the ultimate pace and now after 3 years i can lap with the top guys. 2 stroke karts are animals, you need to be precise every lap, they brake hard, corner fast, and accelerate like crazy, they have a huge amount of grip and power. so how hard are they to drive??? to start with very, they will scare you to death, but if you are sensible and dont think your gods gift to driving you will get quicker and quicker, but go in there thinking your the next lewis hamilton and the kart will bite your head off big time!!! |
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24 Apr 2011, 23:50 (Ref:2869330) | #91 | ||
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WHere in the north east can I get an arks test and what class should I race to get to national a after if I want (and I'm saying want not saying I am) to race kf3
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25 Apr 2011, 00:54 (Ref:2869340) | #92 | ||
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Why don't you stop asking questions on here and actually contact the people you have been recommended to several times in this thread already.....?
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25 Apr 2011, 04:47 (Ref:2869352) | #93 | ||
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like ive said before, you need togo to the track, see which class is more popular, go to one of the race days and ask loads of questions/get advice from the drivers to see which class is best...ie which class has most karts up there so youve got more karts to race against, it also depends on cost!....how much have your parents got to spend, you seem to have jnr rotax and jnr tkm up there, tkm is cheepest so if the grids are a good size id go with that class
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25 Apr 2011, 07:05 (Ref:2869365) | #94 | ||
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So if I went with tkm would I still be able to race kf3 once i have a national A
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This thread is absolutely ridiculous. 7 pages of one kid in dream world asking the same question in as many different ways as possible and not actually listening to the replies!
Face the reality that you are never going to get into F1, which you arent if you just sit on TenTenths asking pointless questions, and actually get out there in any kart class that looks good fun and you can afford and enjoy it! Then you may move on from that and so on...but you arent the next Lewis Hamilton from just someone saying you have a small bit of natural talent! |
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25 Apr 2011, 14:45 (Ref:2869556) | #96 | ||
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All I can think is that admittedly there arent that many young people racing in them, but there are definitely some of us who do and we cant be that untalented can we? |
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Well I was 17 last year when I started racing long circuits after a year in junior TKM and a year in 250s short circuit and was absolutely fine (I think!)! That's the thing though, on short circuits driving standards are very poor, theres no respect between eachother, numerous incidents etc. But on long circuits, particularly superkarts, theres a lot more respect between drivers, real clean and good racing about 95% of the time. If theyre a liability and dangerous, why are they better off in FFords or Formula Renault?!
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drivers in superkarts tend to have a huge amount of respect for eachother and give eachother room to race, if they dont its incredibly dangerous, plus most superkart drivers tend to be geriatric old farts so tend to have a few more brain cells between their ears!!!! i agree though, a few up and coming drivers could learn a lot from superkarts, wud be interesting to put a young driver into a superkart and see if it makes any difference when stepping into a single seater!.....think a formula renault would feel slow! |
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well firstly it isnt 170mph, singles can reach tops 130 and twins maybe 145. But there arent that many actual crashes in Superkarts, and the crash bars are suprisingly strong.
MOST SUPERKART DRIVERS TEND TO BE GERIATRIC OLD FARTS ?!?! I am highly offended by that comment actually! It is also very incorrect! I agree that there are some older people racing but good on them, and they arent necessarily slow! But anyway, 95% of the top 20 drivers are about 25 and under. Look at James Tucker, 2009 raced in Superkarts, was runner up in the championship and raced in FFord in 2010. I personally think he would have done a lot better in something with aero, but by the end of the season he was well on the pace. I'd love to have a go but simply dont have the money or ANY backing. But I dont also see why more young karters dont do superkarts, why spend 50 grand a year in super 1 when you can race on long circuits for about 7? |
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