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Old 31 Dec 2023, 18:45 (Ref:4190405)   #76
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At £20 a pop I wonder how many will attend.
I went 12 years ago for a "round birthday" treat, was considering going again this year but TBH can't face getting up early and travelling! Too much like a work day.

It was OK, but I too would question whether it is twenty quid OK.

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Old 31 Dec 2023, 19:25 (Ref:4190416)   #77
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I suspect they want to limit the numbers. Didn’t they have to turn people away one year?

There is a local cars and coffee which is free. We’ve not needed to limit the numbers.
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No problem, I recall a college trip way back, where they showed us the computerised draughting system for wings, I think they were for the A319 Airbus. And a flexible mirror material again, used in aircraft.

I've also been there on New Year's Day a couple of times.

My point is that the entry fee used to be more reasonable for what is a classic car gathering.
Yes, you're probably right about the increased charge but for me it's become a tradition usually meeting up with a couple of pals I normally see at Brands in the race season.
Memories come flooding back each time despite the vast changes to the original site, I can still visualise all the manufacturing facilities, the wing and fuselage assembly lines and the vast flight sheds on the other side of the circuit where the hotel stands now, enormous hangars erected specifically for the VC10 with its high tailplane - they were colloquially known as the Abbey and the Cathedral.
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Thanks again to the pics taken at Brackley by rbs, I had a go to pick up some info about Clan cars. Interesting to learn about their last model, the Clover, hosting an Alfa boxer engine. https://absolutelycars.fr/culture-au...la-sportivite/
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Thanks again to the pics taken at Brackley by rbs, I had a go to pick up some info about Clan cars. Interesting to learn about their last model, the Clover, hosting an Alfa boxer engine. https://absolutelycars.fr/culture-au...la-sportivite/
They were really good rally cars used by Andy Dawson & Alan Conley to name a few. Andy Dawson fiished 2nd behind Roger Clark on one Manx rally.
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Yes, you're probably right about the increased charge but for me it's become a tradition usually meeting up with a couple of pals I normally see at Brands in the race season.
Memories come flooding back each time despite the vast changes to the original site, I can still visualise all the manufacturing facilities, the wing and fuselage assembly lines and the vast flight sheds on the other side of the circuit where the hotel stands now, enormous hangars erected specifically for the VC10 with its high tailplane - they were colloquially known as the Abbey and the Cathedral.
I think you are right - sometimes the value you get from an event overrides the entrance fee. Goodwood for example...
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Nice pics RBS
Strange coincidence but a week or so ago I saw pics of the Bugatti truck at the Normandy Sand Races from earlier in the year. Never seen it before then twice in a week! More pics of it here showing the back on this link, Some other interesting bikes and stuff as well.... just scroll down the page.
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Thanks to you, rbs. And as usual, your legends are much appreciated (at least by ignorants like me!). We have a Tornado specialist on the forum, I recall Zef having restaured a Tornado in a recent past (may be not a Tempest).
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A good shout Mike. All I could think of was The Ecurie Ecosse transporter which was Commer based.
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From the pic posted by E.B (in Normandy), this Commer was supposed to make transport for Bugatti and Lagonda. Nothing to see with our wonderful Club, alas. 2024 subscriptions are open: are you in Mike?

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I can claim to have driven a Trident, a blue '72 Venturer V6 belonging to a friend of mine.

The occasion was in 1979 & we went across to Ernie Knott's in Northants to collect a Gordon-Keeble he also owned. I then drove the Trident back to Norfolk.

So far as I am aware, he still owns both cars, amongst others!
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OK, John, you got me curious about this Gordon-Keeble car. Good looking I must admit (is it Iso Rivolta tinted?), from this source it is said it was really affordable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon-Keeble
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OK, John, you got me curious about this Gordon-Keeble car. Good looking I must admit (is it Iso Rivolta tinted?), from this source it is said it was really affordable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon-Keeble
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Gerry Mo, an interesting article you might like on the story of Gordon Keeble, from its Peerless GT connection / Genesis right through to its death, including the story of how it got its Turtle shaped badge and even mentioning of how (to answer your question of a link) Renzo Rivolta went from being a potential shareholder of GKbut ended up instead copying the GK chassis design for his own Iso Rivolta GT.

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A bit of Trident info.
LASTS Garage in Woodbridge , Suffolk , was a TVR dealer and bought the rights to the Trident models .
They opened a small factory in Ipswich where they built the Trident cars .
A friend of mine was an engineer there and he would often turn up at my house when he was out road testing the cars when they were finished .
As well as the 4.7 Lt V8 , there was a 7 Ltr which had a 3 speed auto box , [ why ??? ] , and a car which did the 1970 World Cup Rally , [ from memory it had an army motorsport team and did not finish .]
Very impressive acceleration but the roadholding on most cars was not that good as I believe they were built on a TRIUMPH TR chassis .

That was dragging up a few memories from 50 odd years ago .
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Great memories here, Tel, thanks.
E.B: the turtle badge is awesome, great find, well done. As to the Iso question, it was genuine and not inspired by net-infos. I'll have a go to the link you posted and find this thread more and more interesting. Looking forward to Peter informations about the Tenther involved in the restauration of a 1 Series. Hope it has the "free-wheel"* system the first examples had.

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