[BTCC] BTCC 2023 season discussion, News and Rumours!

[S griffin]

It's so good they have decided to add another meeting at Donington using the longer circuit instead of having an extra meeting at Thruxton. Means we have more variety now

[AnnoyedMoose]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Don’t worry I am sure most knew what you meant….

I didn't as the reply to the previous post read to me as though a permit was needed from MSA and from the MSUK. Perhaps it referred to two permits needed for two different track layouts but I wasn't sure which is why I made the post about MSA no longer existing for clarification.

You'd be surprised how many times I've seen on other forums and Facebook people posting as though they were two different and current organisations.

[BobJones]

BTCC game pushed to 2024. But, not cancelled and the licence is still intact.

BTCC race weekends in 2022 and 2023 will be used to test BTCC content on the existing rFactor 2 platform and early game builds for fan feedback.

It sucks, but also no one wanted a BTCC game based on NASCAR 21: Ignition. Trust me.

https://traxion.gg/btcc-game-delayed...g-race-events/

[5five]

Originally Posted by BobJones

BTCC game pushed to 2024. But, not cancelled and the licence is still intact.

BTCC race weekends in 2022 and 2023 will be used to test BTCC content on the existing rFactor 2 platform and early game builds for fan feedback.

It sucks, but also no one wanted a BTCC game based on NASCAR 21: Ignition. Trust me.

https://traxion.gg/btcc-game-delayed...g-race-events/

Delaying the game is the best news. I think its clear that Ignition was a disaster and this shows serious intent to rectify any of the previous mistakes. The BTCC content which has been added to rFactor 2 is fantastic, and with additional cars to be added hopefully over the next year will scratch my itch for now.

I can't help thinking that having to develop for both PS4, PS5 and Xbox One / Series X is holding everyone back in the game dev industry - so hopefully we'll have buried those consoles in the past come 2024.

[S griffin]

If there is to be a BTCC game, it needs to do the series justice, not just be another racing sim. Hopefully we can get one that we can all relate to

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by antnee

The GP loop should provide plenty of opportunities for some door bashing, as shown by the TCR races last weekend

My favourite viewing point at Donny was always inside the track near the museum. Afforded great views of the loop and rejoining back to the front straight. Heavy braking = overtake opportunities. A quick turn on the heels and a few strides and you're in place to watch them back down the Craners and into Old Hairpin. Rinse and repeat. Nice bit of exercise too!

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by Craner Curves

I'm an armchair fan, I don't care about geographical locations.

In front of the telly would help presumably?

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

My only gripe with Donington is the increased height of the fences that have sprung up in the last few years. In terms of a layout for driving, I think its fabulous.

I did a bike ride thing for charity there in 2019 where you got to ride around it. I thought when I got to the Craners I could just freewheel and gain a ton of speed. Maybe because of the rubber on the track or the wind, but it was like hitting a brick wall, and gained hardly any speed at all down towards the Old Hairpin, as a result that climb up to McLeans was painful. It was a really beautiful August summers evening though, it was about 25 degrees.

I read this and got confused. Then the penny dropped you were referring to a one person power bike as opposed to one with a collection of horsies. Doh!

[mark_l]

Originally Posted by redshoes

I was originally going to suggest that licences would be an issue but I'm not sure that is the case. Most (if not all) TOCA meetings need an International permit, a National permit, and an Interclub permit.

The permits for each meeting are viewable on the virtual noticeboard for that meeting.

Here are the permits for Oulton Park 11/12 June https://www.barc.net/online_noticebo...ne-11-12-2022/

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by S griffin

If there is to be a BTCC game, it needs to do the series justice, not just be another racing sim. Hopefully we can get one that we can all relate to

Hopefully the liveries will be editable ( if there is such a word) so everyone is happy!

[thetool]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Hopefully the liveries will be editable ( if there is such a word) so everyone is happy!

On PC - through mods - definitely. Not on console though. I don't know of any officially licenced game that supports custom liveries.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by thetool

On PC - through mods - definitely. Not on console though. I don't know of any officially licenced game that supports custom liveries.

Gran Turismo Sport and 7.

[thetool]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Gran Turismo Sport and 7.

It allows officially licenced cars, such as the Audi R8 LMS '15 to have customised liveries?

https://gran-turismo.fandom.com/wiki/Audi_R8_LMS_%2715

The fandom wiki suggests there is only the one livery available, and that customisation isn't available.

Plenty of games allow customisable liveries, but (to my knowledge at least) always excluding any official content.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by thetool

It allows officially licenced cars, such as the Audi R8 LMS '15 to have customised liveries?

https://gran-turismo.fandom.com/wiki/Audi_R8_LMS_%2715

The fandom wiki suggests there is only the one livery available, and that customisation isn't available.

Plenty of games allow customisable liveries, but (to my knowledge at least) always excluding any official content.

https://gran-turismo.fandom.com/wiki/Livery_Editor

[Evantra]

Caterham has now joined the BARC package. Perhaps this might lead to an appearance on the BTCC supports in the future.

[redshoes]

Caterham run 3 or 4 difference series for different specs of cars which tend to run as part of the same package. There wouldn't be space for all of them to run at a TOCA meeting and I doubt they would want to split them up

[pimmy]

Caterham's top class has raced separately on occasion in the past, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for them to make a guest appearance.

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by pimmy

Caterham's top class has raced separately on occasion in the past, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for them to make a guest appearance.

I imagine the BTCC support bill gives more exposure than any other the others? Would make sense for Caterham to get a foot in if they could.

[sceptic]

Caterham supported the BTCC at Thruxton in about 2004.

[Alfisti]

Possibly (probably?) the higher powered of the series to move over to gain some brand exposure to casual motorsports fans (those who have heard of Plato and likely still think he has a Sooooooooobaru) rather than the more mainstay fans who could probably write detailed specs of the machines they're watching on track.

[AnnoyedMoose]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

rather than the more mainstay fans who could probably write detailed specs of the machines they're watching on track.

Not so sure about that. A lot of the regular fans seem to have trouble setting their Sky to record the races let alone knowing the specs of the cars.

[Ant25]

Nick Tandy! New driver for next season?

[Racing Harz]

Originally Posted by Ant25

Nick Tandy! New driver for next season?

Really unlikely.

[Ant25]

Originally Posted by Racing Harz

Really unlikely.

How come?

[Racing Harz]

Originally Posted by Ant25

How come?

Why should a Corvette worksdriver, who earns much $$$$$$$ and can drive the best GT-races in the world switch to the BTCC? That doesn´t make any sense. He doesnt have any experience in touringcars and is one of the best GT- and endurancedrivers in the world.

This today is likely a one-off.