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19 Sep 2007, 20:26 (Ref:2018253) | #76 | |
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could do with some english names that will close down things greatly
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20 Sep 2007, 14:24 (Ref:2018943) | #77 | ||
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I am working on getting more. I still have not heard back from Ed and the HSR-West site is still down?
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Driftwood- Thanks I will try that one as well.
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24 Sep 2007, 06:04 (Ref:2021429) | #80 | ||
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Just to add a few things..
Here is what is according to the driver (Alain Schlesinguer) the #12 car, the "original" Canon car, which was entered during the CER race at Silverstone on September 14th. Interestingly, it seems that even the sponsor name is not clear to everybody. Ed Swart writes Cannon with two n's which was actually a movie distributor in Holland in the seventies and eighties, until it went massively broke. I suppose the true sponsor is indeed Canon with one n, still supplying us with the equipment that a.o. gave me the opportunity to make this shot http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?i...b19121spj3.jpg Last edited by henk4; 24 Sep 2007 at 06:08. |
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24 Sep 2007, 10:49 (Ref:2021600) | #81 | ||
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Looks like the right period livery with one "n", according to period photographs I have seen.
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25 Sep 2007, 01:02 (Ref:2022225) | #83 | ||
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Ok so I went back and looked at Ed Swarts B19 History site and it shows the Canon(s) with 1 N ? see http://racehistorie.nl/swart/swartchevron_m.htm
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As a side question, what was the chassis number of the Canon B16? |
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26 Sep 2007, 14:29 (Ref:2023609) | #85 | ||
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According the info I have, 10a is the first b19 to be painted in canon colors and then later painted in the Wynns color ( purple /yellow - though I have no color photos in this livery) for the So african race where he co-drove with Jody Sheckter...
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26 Sep 2007, 14:42 (Ref:2023618) | #86 | |
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go onto ebay type in chevron b19 b 21 u will find models of the cars for sale scaletrix models made by Fly?
i have bought half the grid they sell and i have some doubles where i stupidly bought the the same model twice!! I dont think i have the canon car yet |
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29 Sep 2007, 17:19 (Ref:2025863) | #87 | ||
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More History information Found
Here is a bit more I what I have learned;
Pre 84- ? a note reference Worchester racing? 1984- Dick Leppala bought and imported into USA directly from Derek Bennett at Chevron. ( at this time Leppala imported every Chevron in the country) and sold it to Micheal Amalfitano in New Hampshire USA. During the time Michael owned the B19 he outfitted it with a Millington 2.5 liter ( @ 340 hp) and ran against other exotics like 908’s , 902’s – *In 1989 the car went through a complete restoration and reveived FIA papers documenting the car June 12,2001 – Micheal Amalfitano (New Hampshire, USA) sold it back to Dick Leppla ( Ohio , USA). Due to health reasons Dick sold the car and retired from racing. November 19th,2002 – Dick Leppala sold to Jeff McKay ( Washington USA). Jeff Purchased a new and correct Cosworth BDG motor from Dave Vegher (Veloce Motors West), though not in car. September , 2007 – Jeff Mckay sold to Jorgen Moller ( aka “me” ) Utah, USA) Note from Roger Andreason in regards to the “Chassis #10” confusion 12/12/02 “ …unfortunately all records from the mid 80’s relating to work done on Chevron cars by the business were destroyed in a flood some years ago. As I recall the car was successfully raced in the UK for some time. There is always a complication with Chevron chassis numbers because there is also a number stamped on the rear corner of the frame that many people regard as the chassis number. It may or may not be the same as the number, this is because the frames were not turned into cars in exactly the order as the frames were made by the sub contractor. There were actually ‘three’ #10 cars recorded in the original records, two #10’s and #10a. you are correct that one of the three #10’s was sold to Worschester racing ( Burton ) … |
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29 Sep 2007, 19:06 (Ref:2025932) | #88 | |
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The BDG; new it may be, correct it aint!
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29 Sep 2007, 19:26 (Ref:2025945) | #89 | ||
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John Burton's team was Worcestershire Racing Association and the name of the dealer/collector is Dick Leppla in Cleveland, OH. Derek Bennett died in March 1978 so it's hard to see how he sold a car to Dick in 1984.
Chassis number B19-71/10 is recorded in period - for example Sport Auto magazine August 1971 p63-65 - as being the car of Burton and WRA but there is nothing here to establish that your car was Burton's car. Some B19s were built in the early 1980s as they were then eligible for the HSCC Atlantic Computers Historic GT Championship and also for Thundersports. Chevron had been sold a couple of times by 1984 and was then owed by Roger Andreason and a lot of their work then came from maintaining and supplying the B8s, B16s and B19s in historic racing. That might be who Dick bought your B19 from. Last edited by allenbrown; 29 Sep 2007 at 19:34. |
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29 Sep 2007, 20:36 (Ref:2025986) | #90 | |
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Chevron cars sold by the Bennet sisters to Messrs Smith and Jacobsen then sold to Roger A who as we know over in Uk was the longest owner of Chevron Cars and more than likely "touched" most cars in the 80`s or supplied parts to owners/prep shops as they where being rebuilt/restored for Historic racing
BDG not being correct motor fitted in period ( ie 1971!) to a B19 is in fact a true and correct statement as pointed out by my wise & learned friend Mr H but it was available in 1972 and it is probably the most utilised engine since then in a B19/21 cars Over time people percieve the BDG to be a "correct" motor for the cars With the void from pre 1984 that gap needs to be filled in to create a line of continous owners/history to verify the cars true Identity I recall some adverts in Autsoport circa 73 74 for B19 cars for sale either from the owners/teams or Bob Howlings perhaps some light can be shed by dredgeing these magazines Last edited by driftwood; 29 Sep 2007 at 20:39. |
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29 Sep 2007, 22:17 (Ref:2026081) | #91 | ||
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Simon-
When I said "Correct", I was refering to the rules here to run in 2 Liter vintage class with other Chevrons, Lola's etc...Oops! Allen- I am reading off of some very old hand written notes with dates scattered throughout ( like a puzzle) I am confident Dick did buy the car directly from Chevron in UK as there are other very old faxes talking of the car. I drop Michael Amalifa a note to see if he can shed some light? Bear with me...I am a rookie to the history on these cars...but I am enjoying learning and certainly driving |
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30 Sep 2007, 23:23 (Ref:2027412) | #92 | |
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what fax number do you have on the chevron faxes?
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1 Oct 2007, 00:56 (Ref:2027450) | #93 | ||
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Driftwood- Thanks for your help . I have some of the copied documents here in my home for reference, but I have the originals at my office ( fire proof cabinet)
I will go through the original faxes when I am there. Some are very faded due to the old style carbon fax papers. I do have a bunch of original letters and sketches from Collin Bennett that must have been faxed. Some of the faxes are a bit faded and/or only have the number going in one direction. There are later ones as well from Collin Bennett ( at Amalfi Racing Legends in USA going to Helen in UK). here are a few that I can read and mostly from Amalfi Racing / Collin Bennet 0565 7774333 - I think this is the same as today? 0565 85433 Not sure if complete number? There is one letter to a Mr. D. Linton, Company Secretary of Derek Bennett Engineering Ltd. on Chorley Old Road , Bolton BL1 3AS Lancs , England 5/18/71 about some testing. The original FIA documentation is from 6-12-89 |
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1 Oct 2007, 08:17 (Ref:2027621) | #94 | |
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Colin Bennet is now back in the UK after Amalfi racing was closed down
he was always base din the north of england near Oulton park when he ran his race shop the 0565 std code is now 01565 these towns are the north of england in oulton park area Chevron cars in Bolton is a bit further north Arley (Northwich) 01565 Bucklow Hill 01565 Knutsford 01565 Lower Peover 01565 Mobberley 01565 Pickmere 01565 If you had faxes from Andreason Chevron the code would be 0962 Winchester this is near Southampton on the south coast of england |
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need the foto or direct page all i see is the whole thread all 103 pages!
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This might be useful.
Autosport 3 Mar 1983 p61: Charles Agg advertises a Chevron B19 as "Yes it's another one but this is the car driven by John Watson and Emerson Fittipaldi. Also driven by Pete Smith who won the two litre Can-Am Championship". I have no note of either Watson or Fittipaldi ever driving either a Chevron B19 or a DART entry but S. Peter Smith did compete in the 2-litre class of the second Can-Am in 1977 and 1978 in a Chevron B19 or Chevron B19/21 with Red Roof Inns sponsorship. He won his class more often than not in 1978. It was white, in case that helps work out who raced it in 1983. Allen |
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27 Jan 2008, 00:29 (Ref:2114414) | #99 | ||
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Looking for Chevron stickers
Can anyone help? I have a Chevron B19 and am looking for Chevron stickers/decals as well as period correct sponsor stickers such as Shell, Ford, Cosworth and so forth. The vinyl ones are ok.
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suggest u go to kinko type shop and get them scanned and re made highly unlikely the old stickers today will be sticky to fit to the car
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