2006 CCWS Silly Season - Page 4

enemy-ace · 9 Nov 2005, 02:27 (Ref:1455913)

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Originally Posted by Snrub

[url]Bourdais doesn't sound far from a seat on BMW's F1 team.

I read it as he is miles away. Villeneuve would appear to be lock tight with his contract. He deserves a shot but he isn't getting any younger.

KK and Penske won't be face to face, that would be to edgy for Windtunnel.

Snrub · 9 Nov 2005, 05:03 (Ref:1455962)

^ I think 2007 rather than 2006 makes sense for Bourdais.

Tenoch · 9 Nov 2005, 06:15 (Ref:1455980)

But really what does Bourdais have left to proof here. he has shown us that he can be an extremely smooth driver (2004) and that he can go toe to toe with the infamous Paul Tracy and come out on top. There really is nothing for him to proof, he already showed that he can use his talent and his teams domination to wi9n the championship.

enemy-ace · 9 Nov 2005, 11:54 (Ref:1456243)

His age I think will be his major stumbling block.

Amar7605 · 9 Nov 2005, 19:51 (Ref:1456602)

On the other hand, Bernie Ecclestone has said that F1 could use a French driver. As much as I hate to say it, Bourdais would be the most logical choice. Besdes, even he has said that he'd like to shoot for F1.

Tenoch · 9 Nov 2005, 20:13 (Ref:1456619)

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Originally Posted by enemy-ace

His age I think will be his major stumbling block.

I tought Bourdais was about the same age as tiago monterio (spelling) didnt they do Formula 3000 together and he's doing just fine.

Go_For_Pole · 9 Nov 2005, 20:25 (Ref:1456634)

The difference being that Tiago has GALP paying for his ride which made Jordan forget about his age or prior achievements. The point made by enemy-ace is for drivers wanting a drive on merit (and a carrier to follow) not buy riders.

You have to feel for Seb though, I mean what more could he possibly have done to prove himself. Champion in F3, champion in F3000, double champion in Champ Car yet Briatore and Faure pretty much destroyed his F1 future...

rustyfan · 10 Nov 2005, 23:05 (Ref:1457696)

Franck Montagny might be looking towards Champ Car, according to GrandPrix.com.

Jordi · 11 Nov 2005, 11:53 (Ref:1458024)

There seems to be some confusion with Montagny, as he was told he was not required anymore by Renault but now have called him back for the early December tests. (Theory being that he is needed because Kovalainen might be going to BMW)

BootsOntheSide · 12 Nov 2005, 14:52 (Ref:1458917)

Montiero has done quite well in F1 once he's got in, and opn paper Bourdais would be faster straight away. Other than maybe Liuzzi he's surely mroe talented than any of 2005's F1 rookies, but all the others bought their drives to some extent. He would make a lot of sense for BMW, be it 2006 or 2007. He's probably feeling that he needs a new challenge and has proven himself in ChampCars.

Omega99 · 12 Nov 2005, 17:46 (Ref:1459015)

It would be a real shame if Bourdais never got a shot at F1. He has nothing more to prove that he's worthy of a seat.

N I Tram · 14 Nov 2005, 15:22 (Ref:1460429)

Absolutely right Omega. Bourdais has commercial and racing value to F1, and in some ways it would be better for ChampCar for him to leave - especially to F1.

rustyfan · 14 Nov 2005, 17:14 (Ref:1460502)

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Originally Posted by N I Tram

Absolutely right Omega. Bourdais has commercial and racing value to F1, and in some ways it would be better for ChampCar for him to leave - especially to F1.

I'm pretty sure the F-1 community sees Bourdais as an unproven card, especially since da Matta also had major success in Champ Car before stepping over, and we all know how that turned out...

Being a Champ Car champion doesn't carry the weight it used to.

BootsOntheSide · 14 Nov 2005, 17:57 (Ref:1460537)

da Matta actually did a lot better than people think. His results and overall pace were very similar to the much more experienced Panis, and his early departure was political as much as anything. In any case, Bourdais has a much stronger record from F3000 and below - F1 has been slack in giving those champions a run in recent years, which is why ChampCar has 4 of them.

mac · 21 Nov 2005, 00:34 (Ref:1466032)

I am hearing that the Briscoe to Champ Car thing is looking increasingly likely - most probably with PKV on a loan deal from Toyota.

rustyfan · 21 Nov 2005, 00:44 (Ref:1466043)

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Originally Posted by mac

I am hearing that the Briscoe to Champ Car thing is looking increasingly likely - most probably with PKV on a loan deal from Toyota.

Sounds good, I hope it turns out to be true. Champ Cars should suit him better.

overflow · 21 Nov 2005, 00:45 (Ref:1466045)

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Originally Posted by mac

I am hearing that the Briscoe to Champ Car thing is looking increasingly likely - most probably with PKV on a loan deal from Toyota.

I hope you are right Mac , he would excel on road tracks..really show his talent I think....does he still have the Toyota backing..?

mac · 21 Nov 2005, 01:58 (Ref:1466063)

At this point in time Ryan is still a Toyota-contracted driver.

BootsOntheSide · 21 Nov 2005, 15:09 (Ref:1466562)

Toyota have no real use for him now, unless they want to put him back in the F1 fold. If he's going to PKV, I geuss that means Vasser retiring and/or da Matta mvoing on?

codename_47 · 22 Nov 2005, 02:10 (Ref:1467061)

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Originally Posted by mac

At this point in time Ryan is still a Toyota-contracted driver.

And (I'm not sure if it's official yet or just internet "it's going to be official soon" talk) Toyota are in the process of leaving the IRL a year early, so probably see no point into holding on to him for him to sit out a year (baring in mind their F1 roster looks full.....)

Perhaps after all that is what sparked the whole "Ganassi to Champcar" rumour, Chip felt Ryan was a better road racer than oval racer and began negociating to have him loaned out, then it was seen as Chip thinking about Champcar when he really was just trying to offload a driver.... :S

rustyfan · 22 Nov 2005, 09:31 (Ref:1467197)

World Series by Renault racer Simon Pagenaud is aiming for Champ Car. Right now it seems he'll do the Formula Atlantics in 2006 with hopes of eventually moving up to Champ Car.

SpeedTV.com has an article about it.

D.R.T. · 22 Nov 2005, 11:44 (Ref:1467345)

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Originally Posted by BootsOntheSide

Toyota have no real use for him now, unless they want to put him back in the F1 fold. If he's going to PKV, I geuss that means Vasser retiring and/or da Matta mvoing on?

PKV have more drivers linked to them than they know what to do with at the moment.

Briscoe, Glock, Manning,Dalziel, Legge, Vasser, Da Matta, RHR. Anyone else ?

rustyfan · 24 Nov 2005, 09:57 (Ref:1469124)

The article on SpeedTV.com about Katherine Legge's F-1 test includes this rather interesting tidbit:

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Legge now returns stateside for a rather more important - in her own words - Champ Car test with PKV Racing at Sebring next month, when it will be evaluated whether she will graduate to the Champ Car World Series or do another season in Atlantics next year.

I hope they do a proper test, as I'd hate to see her get rushed into Champ Car before she is ready.

Snrub · 24 Nov 2005, 14:51 (Ref:1469345)

I think she's still a little raw. I think she probably has the elements there, but IMO her Atlantics season shows that she needs another year.

codename_47 · 25 Nov 2005, 00:17 (Ref:1469764)

In Autosport Today Kevin K says there probably won't be any new teams in 2006 (bit of a Bummer really) because of the high start up costs for buying a Lola for just one year etc....(tell 'em to get a Reynard then!

) but already TWO Atlantic teams have contacted him about running in 2007........

I wonder just how many cars we'll have in 2007.....the Sky's the limit it seems!

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