Michael Schumacher - Page 4

J.McClane · 9 Apr 2002, 12:36 (Ref:255575)

But if all the people who are complainin' about these stupid/childish comments were to stick to the original subject and not nibble on the bait of the childish posters.
Then the childish posters would eventually get bored and just stop.
Seems fairly straight forward to me.

**Adam43** · 9 Apr 2002, 12:49 (Ref:255593)

Never gonna happen.

J.McClane · 9 Apr 2002, 13:07 (Ref:255615)

So the people that reply to these comments are just as bad as the people that make them.
So what i am tryin' to say is STOP COMPLAININ'

Red · 9 Apr 2002, 13:14 (Ref:255621)

Err...... you were right in both posts: "the people who are complaining do not (usualy) reply" and "people that reply to these comments..." (ooops

sorry)

**Adam43** · 9 Apr 2002, 14:15 (Ref:255665)

So people who reply to the complaining are just as bad as the people complaining (?)
Sort of replying to complain about complaining!

Sorry, couldn't resist. Forgive me

I think people find it hard not to reply when they blatantly disagree with something daft someone else has written. I find it a shame when this gets in the way of some proper discussion.

I'm not even saying that anything can or should be done about it, but I find that it reduces my involvement and enjoyment. It's not something that I lose sleep over, but it's nice to have a little complain about it here in it's own thread and see that (some) others do indeed feel the same.

J.McClane · 9 Apr 2002, 14:20 (Ref:255668)

I was just tryin' to point out that this is a usless topic, and to just do what i do and ignore these stupid remarks, if they don't have anythin' to respond to, they can't do anythin' can they?

paulzinho · 9 Apr 2002, 14:46 (Ref:255688)

Maybe but when theres a number of these people complaining amongst themselves in most threads it gets a tad annoying.

EG

Poster A: Michael sux

Poster B: Montoya sux

Poster C: Michaels a cheat

Poster B Montoya can't drive

etc, etc

Sato san · 9 Apr 2002, 15:04 (Ref:255704)

Im not really so much into " he's a better driver than him " argument , that will always come down to someones preference or who they support . I have my favorites which i guess some of you will have noticed , but in truth i have to admit that other peoples favorites are great drivers as well.

but the argument that i find it very hard not to get involved in , is where someone genuinly beleives that a driver has done an exceptable move , and where i feel it was very unexceptable .
I love my racing alot , i normally dont mind who wins as long as it's a blinder of a race ,edge of your seat kinda stuff , but when i feel ive been cheated out of watching a great race , then i feel i need to shout about it .

**Adam43** · 9 Apr 2002, 15:18 (Ref:255717)

Quote:

Originally posted by J.McClane
I was just tryin' to point out that this is a usless topic, and to just do what i do and ignore these stupid remarks, if they don't have anythin' to respond to, they can't do anythin' can they?

I agree

, but you can see how easy it is to get dragged in and reply to everything that is written so that your point of view can be heard!

Paulzinho, that was one the most intelligent Michael/Montoya debates I've seen around here for a long time.

race aficionado · 9 Apr 2002, 15:55 (Ref:255731)

Quote:

Originally posted by Sato san

but the argument that i find it very hard not to get involved in , is where someone genuinly beleives that a driver has done an axceptable move , and where i feel it was very unexceptable .
I love my racing alot , i normally dont mind who wins as long as it's a blinder of a race ,edge of your seat kinda stuff , but when i feel ive been cheated out of watching a great race , then i feel i need to shout about it .

Agreed,
I'll do my shouting too, and hopefully we won't need to if we don't have to.

I also like that "edge of your seat" kinda stuff.
The weekend is approaching and I just can't wait.

SILVERS95 · 9 Apr 2002, 19:56 (Ref:255928)

Edge of the seat stuff is great as it gets the heart beating nice and fast . Being cheated out of a good race , justs makes you feel like you'd rather go and make a cuppa.

I know which one i prefer . Lets hope we dont get no nasty stuff this weekend , and get a clean race throughout .

Gt_R · 10 Apr 2002, 02:27 (Ref:256099)

Nasty stuffs? Were there any?

We used to say how F1 was boring...nobody bothers to overtake for places...nobody bothers to fight to defend their place. We used to say how much better perhaps CART and BTCC are.

Now we get these stuffs on F1..and we claim it is dirty because a particular character did those moves. We complain about F1 even when it is improving in racing. We complain now that we have what we wanted...close racing and a fight between top guys.

Oh right...so the BTCC and CART we thought was better did not have nudging and barging stuffs?? A hard move is now considered dirty, a cheat...or a plain beauty... not dependent on the move itself, but the driver involved...

I know what i prefer. Real racing. I don't mind seeing Michael having a few knocks as per Malaysia. I don't mind seeing JPM lose his wing. As long as nothing outright blatantly bad or dangerous things are done, what are we to complain about? Does that make F1 better????

Just watch it...we were not cheated out of a good race in Malaysia...neither in Brazil.

Raoul Duke · 10 Apr 2002, 05:20 (Ref:256138)

Quote:

Originally posted by BBKing
Bleating all the time is not going to make this place better. If you are looking for a place where everyone agrees with you it should not be called forum. Probably a Schumacher church is what would be more suitable for you....LOL

One place is just as good as you want it to be. So you are part of this place and is up to you to make it appealing for you.

I pretty much agree with the sentiments of BBK.

I won't be saying anything more in this thread. Frankly I'm getting fed up with the same old people whinning about the "whinning" that goes on here.

If you feel so disgusted at what you have to read from certain members. Then maybe you should should, as well, look towards the way you put across your opinions, and find a way to modify it before you can expect others to return the favour.

It all comes down to respect. You must first show respect to others before you get any in return.

drexel · 10 Apr 2002, 08:51 (Ref:256205)

How can something which is legal, also be unfair?

Wrex · 10 Apr 2002, 09:24 (Ref:256216)

Official 1. "Did you see what Shu just did to JPM?"
Official 2. "No, sorry i was too busy countin' this bribe money from Ferrari"

Hmmm, I think its funny to get advice on whats childish and flame bate from someone with this as their signature.

Quote:

Originally posted by paulzinho
Poster A: Michael sux

Poster B: Montoya sux

Poster C: Michaels a cheat

Poster B Montoya can't drive

etc, etc

Hehe, did you copy and paste that word for word?

I'm sure Poster B was banned was'nt he?

Gt_R · 10 Apr 2002, 09:27 (Ref:256217)

haha...of course it can be!

Authorities: "We decide this is legal"
Fans of driver which the decision is against: "This is cheat..this is unfair..the authorities are biased...blah blah"

There you go...something legal, but cried unfair upon. The thing is that with every new rule, or new decision, there would definitely be somebody who is more or less affected than the others...and so feelings of unjust there would surely be.

I would agree with the Duke on certain points. Respect. And to bring that to a further extent, not only should we show respect to other posters...but also to other drivers/teams/authorities whatsoever. If no respect/sensitivity can be shown by the poster, then he does not deserve respect in return. Right?

Why not try something...before we criticise certain things...take time to think whether we could do better if in their shoes. Not in an ideal goody-good world of beautiful theories, but in the realistic world...

Enjoy the coming races...Fireworks are expected!

J.McClane · 10 Apr 2002, 11:19 (Ref:256276)

What's wrong with my sig, maybe a little too close to the truth?
And i never at any point said i do not make childish remarks, i just said that people who keep complanin' about them are gettin' nowhere

Wrex · 10 Apr 2002, 11:25 (Ref:256283)

Chill Mr McClane, just a little joke. I for one am proud of all my childish remarks

downforce · 10 Apr 2002, 14:12 (Ref:256482)

OFTOPIC but nice....;-)
Is Roger Waters playing in Melbourne too?

SILVERS95 · 10 Apr 2002, 14:47 (Ref:256515)

GT_R . you are taking your point too far there , im not complaining about Michael bad driving standards because he done it against JPM , I am complaining about it because he keeps on doing it to many different drivers . There has been a lot of " NASTY STUFF " happen in F1 when it comes to MS , which frankly is a waste of his huge talent ! , so dont think i'm going on about this because it's JPM he's doing it to , I'm saying my piece because im fed up with seeing him spoil a good race . I have no problem with seeing Michael have a few knocks from time to time either , afterall , it should be very competitive in F1 races , but when it come down to pure dodgy driving , or a big chop across to take out your opponent if he doesnt decide to back off and let you win , or moveing twice which he done in Brazil , then i dont call that racing , I call that damm right dangerous and un sportsman like , and i would be interested to see your remarks if one of his manouvers ever causes a serious or fatal accident .

Daytona Donald · 10 Apr 2002, 18:28 (Ref:256651)

Quote:

Originally posted by SILVERS95
I am complaining about it because he keeps on doing it to many different drivers .

damon hill, david coulthard and jaques villeneuve all spring to mind aswell as jpm of course!

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