[WEC] Aston Martin Hypercar Discussion

[GT6]

Please let this happen.

[TF110]

Originally Posted by GT6

Please let this happen.

I hope R-motorsport keeps the gray and blue. That'll look really good on the Valkyrie and the best part about it is it's not another Red White and Black prototype.

[CTD]

That is great news!
Let us hope it pulls through

[Mike E]

Mmmmmm V12

https://twitter.com/DarrenTurner007/...061854214?s=09

[GT6]

Yep that noise is amazing but it could be the sound of the end of noisy combustion engined cars, but we have said that before.

[deggis]

Looks like the test mule (of the road car) that ran at British GP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lktppb6Qtek

Altough there it apparently was only using 6 cylinders and barely accelerated at all.

[deggis]

Longer video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlnx0GXswEw

[TF110]

Sounds great.

[Juntos]

Originally Posted by TF110

Sounds great.

It doesn't make it faster...or reliable.

[Bcarr6]

Originally Posted by Juntos

It doesn't make it faster...or reliable.

It also doesn’t stop it being fast or reliable.. two sides to the coin Juntos

[seanyb505]

Fast/Reliable/Sounds great...three sides to the circle Bcarr6

[TF110]

Originally Posted by Juntos

It doesn't make it faster...or reliable.

Usually sound doesn't relate to a car's reliability, unless you hear the engine go boom!

But I will say one thing, the Valkyrie is out there running while other cars are not. If the hypercar/prototype is going to be a super version of this car, then they've got somewhat of a head-start.

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by TF110

Usually sound doesn't relate to a car's reliability, unless you hear the engine go boom!



But I will say one thing, the Valkyrie is out there running while other cars are not. If the hypercar/prototype is going to be a super version of this car, then they've got somewhat of a head-start.

And it's miles ahead of their last effort. Although I think they're trying to use the MiB memory flashy thing to make us all forget it

[Juntos]

Aston Martin finances aren't good. The overall car market is not good. Regardless of how promising the new cars are, if the demand is not there from consumers then it will not sell. Considering Aston only makes about 6,500 cars a year, consumer sentiment is very important. A reduction in only 650 or so car sales can knock 10% off car revenues. No money, no races.

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by Juntos

Aston Martin finances aren't good. The overall car market is not good. Regardless of how promising the new cars are, if the demand is not there from consumers then it will not sell. Considering Aston only makes about 6,500 cars a year, consumer sentiment is very important. A reduction in only 650 or so car sales can knock 10% off car revenues. No money, no races.

So you have any actual information to back up your claims? Last I say their sales have increased double digit percentages year on year for multiple years. Their cash reserve isn't great from investment in multiple platform development, that's a single cost that can be recouped with sales. Their costly engine program is done and Red Bull is putting up most of the cash for the last 2 big projects to keep Newey entertained.

[Juntos]

Are you saying Red Bull will pay the bill?

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by Juntos

Are you saying Red Bull will pay the bill?

That wasn't even close to what I said, they have been paying and allowing Newey's services to develop cars. All of that adds up to a decreased cost to play. But feel free, pretend to be an insider and poo poo every idea. Personally I'm done and taking a break from this side of the forum until spring. I don't need to be depressed by "fans" who only want the worst for their sport

[TF110]

I thought all the Valkyrie's were spoken for? If that's the case then it's already a success. Of course most will be garage queens but that's not Aston's concern. If it sells out it makes them money.

[chernaudi]

Who gives a damn where the money's coming from as long as good and interesting cars make it to the grid, and there's nothing illegal or unlawful/unethical going on from that end?

Only thing I think is horsecrap is that ACO wanting to aim for a laptime within a few seconds of 3:30 for the new LMP1s at LM (last we saw laptimes that slow from the top class was 2006/2007) and the massive weight increase for the new cars (1100kg min weight as of now). Granted, I'd bet that AMR are at least partly responsible for that at least since it seems that they maybe want to run the Valkyrie AMR Pro track car with relatively few mods.

However, I do realize that I have about as much control over this subject as I do politics or the weather. It's not like the world's ending.

[rich07]

Originally Posted by Juntos

Aston Martin finances aren't good. The overall car market is not good. Regardless of how promising the new cars are, if the demand is not there from consumers then it will not sell. Considering Aston only makes about 6,500 cars a year, consumer sentiment is very important. A reduction in only 650 or so car sales can knock 10% off car revenues. No money, no races.

They’re not good financially at the moment but everyone’s waiting to see if the DBX sells. Hopefully it does well for everyone’s sake. If it wasn’t for the DBX there wouldn’t be much hope at all.

The Valkeyrie won’t save the company but it’s sold out and is a guaranteed earner for the company so that’s a good thing in the short term. The Valkeyrie will race regardless of Aston’s sales. The likes of R Motorsport don’t depend on Aston for sponsorship so they can go it alone if need be. Do you really think Aston is putting a cent into the R Motorsport DTM project? More like the other way around.

[Bcarr6]

Originally Posted by rich07

They’re not good financially at the moment but everyone’s waiting to see if the DBX sells. Hopefully it does well for everyone’s sake. If it wasn’t for the DBX there wouldn’t be much hope at all.

The Valkeyrie won’t save the company but it’s sold out and is a guaranteed earner for the company so that’s a good thing in the short term. The Valkeyrie will race regardless of Aston’s sales. The likes of R Motorsport don’t depend on Aston for sponsorship so they can go it alone if need be. Do you really think Aston is putting a cent into the R Motorsport DTM project? More like the other way around.

Very true, R Motorsport are just the biggest AM fan boys, so pursue these projects out of their own means, their cars always have good sponsorship

Funnily, the GT3 cars are usually sponsored by a local AM dealership

[TF110]

Maybe the Valkyrie lmp program makes financial sense for AM too. I said it before but I do wonder if there's a couple of teams asking for them, it may float the project. Sorta like a small lmp2 type purchase/lease deal?

[deggis]

Official video of the test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5OyWhJwr4M

[deggis]

R-Motorsport update: https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...ar-in-2020-21/

[TF110]

Sounds to me like they're not going to be ready to have 4 cars running. At least that's how it sounded by the quotes in that article.