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4 Jun 2005, 07:30 (Ref:1319733)
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Are you saying his current Ute team is well funded, or his Formula Toyota team?
And speaking to one or two people close to Chris' current team, they are very, very impressed with his skill and attitude both on and off the track. And one of those people has vast OS experience. |
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5 Jun 2005, 03:22 (Ref:1320298)
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5 Jun 2005, 06:04 (Ref:1320323)
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5 Jun 2005, 11:47 (Ref:1320443)
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I think TKR will choose someone with experience to drive its car. I'm not taking anything away from Pither - I was at Wakefield Park a few weeks ago and he was pretty impressive. I just think they'll choose someone with experience. Mark Porter has driven for them for the past couple of seasons. He isn't sensational bet he gets the job done.
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5 Jun 2005, 20:58 (Ref:1320824)
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I guess it's hard to say how well funded or not well funded a team is unless your the accountant for atleast a couple of teams (but those Toyota's didn't look particularly cheap, so I'd find it tough to imagine the Ford was run on bread an water, otherwise you wonder where the increase in budget came from)... Certainly Pither is pretty quick at times, but it's not like he's taken all who've come up against him apart.
As far as some big names rating him.. I think it's one of those matters where every young driver has his advocates, the proof however is in the pudding.. Pither in my opinion is still behind the likes of Edgell and Knight and can probably be lumped with the likes of Hartley (also a very good peddler) who have talent, but have garnered far more "hype" than there results thus far warrant. |
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5 Jun 2005, 21:43 (Ref:1320874)
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[QUOTE=Chappelli]I guess it's hard to say how well funded or not well funded a team is unless your the accountant for atleast a couple of teams (but those Toyota's didn't look particularly cheap, so I'd find it tough to imagine the Ford was run on bread an water, otherwise you wonder where the increase in budget came from)... Certainly Pither is pretty quick at times, but it's not like he's taken all who've come up against him apart.
I have to agree chappelli I never have seen Mr Pither stumped for cash he has a good group of backers from p north that have lookede after him so far. I have to disagree about rating him with hartley as I think that hartley is a extremly good talent he is in front of where scott dixon was at the same time in his career. Just very young and very stupid but I think experience will help lose some of that stupidity. I rate him more in the Daniel Gaunt level for hype Vs results |
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5 Jun 2005, 23:29 (Ref:1320946)
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[ PI have to agree chappelli I never have seen Mr Pither stumped for cash he has a good group of backers from p north that have lookede after him so far. I have to disagree about rating him with hartley as I think that hartley is a extremly good talent he is in front of where scott dixon was at the same time in his career. Just very young and very stupid but I think experience will help lose some of that stupidity. I rate him more in the Daniel Gaunt level for hype Vs results[/QUOTE]
If you rate people by national championships titles won in thier driving live hartley 0,knight 0, gaunt1,edgell 3 I think,Pither5 including 2HQtitles. Can not be to bad winning your 4th race in av8 ute and breaking the lap record on atrack he has never seen before against guys doing the super car endurance races and very good |
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6 Jun 2005, 00:18 (Ref:1320965)
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2004 New Zealand HQ Holden Championship 1st 2004 Motorsport “ Academy of Sport ” graduate 2004 Recipient of Team USA scholarship and Steve Horne prize. 2004 North Island HQ Holden Championship 1st 2004 New Zealand Formula Ford Series 4th 2004 International Formula Ford Series 3rd 2003 Winner Bruce McLaren Scholarship 2003 Australian Grand Prix Formula Ford Support Race 2nd 2003 HQ National Championship 1st 2003 Formula Ford Championship (7 of 8 rounds contested) 6th 2003 New Zealand Grand Prix (Formula Ford) 2nd 2003 HQ Holden North Island Series 3rd 2002 Nomination for National Knowledge Wave/ Youth Leader conference 2002 HQ Holden Winter Series 2nd 2002 Finalist Bruce McLaren Scholarship 2002 National Young Leaders Award 2002 Story of “Racing Career” published internationally 2002 Formula Ford Championship 7th 2002 Avon FF “Driver of the Meeting” (Taupo) 2001 Formula Ford Championship 12th 2001 Survived a 200km per hour crash 2000 Winner AMP Premium Scholarship 2000 Winner "Steele Trophy" 2000 Finalist- "Manawatu Junior Sports person of the year" 2000 Formula Ford Winter Series (Manfeild) 2nd 2000 Formula Ford Festival (Taupo) 6th 2000 Formula First One Hour Race 4th 1999 Formula First Championship 4th 1999 Formula First Winter series 2nd 1999 Formula First One Hour Race 7th 1999 Became the youngest licensed race car driver in the world 1999 Kart Nationals-Junior Restricted 1st 1999 Kart Gold Star Series-JR 1st 1998 Kart Nationals-Cadet 2nd 1998 Manawatu Kart Club Championship-Cadet 1st 1998 MKK Winter Series-Cadet 2nd 1998 New Zealand Grand Prix -Cadet 1st 1997 Victorian State Championship-Cadet ( Australia ) 4th 1997 Kart Nationals-Cadet 3rd 1997 Gold Star Series-Cadet 1st 1996 Kart Nationals -Cadet 1st 1996 Gold Star Series-Cadet 1st 1996 Gold Star Championship-Cadet 1st 1996 North Island Champs-Cadet 2nd 1996 MKK Club Champs-Cadet 1st 1996 MKK Winter Series-Cadet 1st 1995 Kart Nationals-Midget 1st 1995 North Island Champs-Midget 1st 1995 MKK Champs-Midget 1st 1994 MKK Club Champs 1st 1993 MKK Club Champs-Midget 3rd Some other achievements worth mentioning: • Winner of the ‘AMP Young Achiever' major prize in 2000 • Selected as a subject for a “school journal” publication produced to encourage young male “reluctant readers” in New Zealand and the USA • Winner of the Motorsport NZ McLaren Trophy for the outstanding young driver of the year in 2003 • Winner of the Prime Minister's Scholarship in 2003 to cover tertiary fees for further studies. • Winner of the Horne Prize for the outstanding driver in the 2004 Formula Ford International Series (without actually winning the series!) |
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6 Jun 2005, 01:33 (Ref:1320989)
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Again, lots of hype and awards, and lots of 3rd, 4ths and beyond. Aside from the HQ national championship (twice), which is no doubt a bloody good series but it's not exactly a breeding ground for F1 drivers is it?
I still think he's a talented driver, but not an "oustanding" one, a driver who has a good PR machine behind him (the above is a good example of this), but none the less a driver who has been beaten consistantly in every single class of single seater he has competed in... Good point made by Grumpy though, Knight hasn't actually produced the goods either.. maybe I got suckered in by the hype machine (he does have great press releases). |
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6 Jun 2005, 02:56 (Ref:1321007)
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If he is only average how did he do what he did at eastern creek.Is some one saying
the others were having abad day .He lowered the lap record by over half a second.Ithlnk those other drivers would be upset if we were saying they are worse than average.Maybe he is like murphy, bloody good in big cars. |
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6 Jun 2005, 19:46 (Ref:1321692)
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Maybe is bloody good in big cars.. maybe everything came together for that one race.
Now presumably because he destroyed the lap record he drove away from the field all day long? |
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6 Jun 2005, 20:52 (Ref:1321772)
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Spunky I would love to go thru some of these results.
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6 Jun 2005, 21:06 (Ref:1321794)
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6 Jun 2005, 21:14 (Ref:1321802)
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6 Jun 2005, 21:15 (Ref:1321803)
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Hi All
In Race two the field had a reverse top half of the grid, and I think Chris may have had a wee off in that one (not sure if he was helped or on his own) which dropped him a few places. In Race three he had a drive thru penalty for a jumped start and came out nearly (if not) last to get back up to 15th. Yes, he might have made a few errors, but he still drove really well from what I could see 
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6 Jun 2005, 23:13 (Ref:1321918)
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Tracy could answer this .He was I am told leading the final from pole(lowest points to the front) and copped a drive thru for creeping at the start and was leading by 6/10ths of a second.Only his second meeting, I wouldnt dis the guy to much as he is
only eighteen after all and wright out of his comfort zone. |
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7 Jun 2005, 00:20 (Ref:1321956)
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Flying duck, it is not according to me, it is according to his website.
I have seen older and more experienced drivers make many errors also, this kid is showing huge potential. I have not seen the race from EC myself yet, but was talking to people who were there, he did have a bit of an off in the reverse grid race, dropped back to 20th and finished 9th or 10th. At EC it is very easy to jump the start with the track on a slight decline. Didn't Ellery or someone jump the start. |
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7 Jun 2005, 05:00 (Ref:1322053)
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Yes he did run wide at Turn 2 on lap one of the second race, dropped a few spots but came back through the field. And yes he did creep in Race 3 and had to incur a drive through whilst leading the race, sending him back to last, but in the meantime he set a new lap record clawing his way back to 15th.
The kid is good, fast, very level headed and humble. A few around pit lane could do with some of Chris Pither's traits, if there is any justice in motorsport (I know, I know...) he will go places. |
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12 Jun 2005, 07:03 (Ref:1326086)
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There is justice in motorsport and nice things happen to talented people dont they mayhem, despite doubters like chappelli and flying duck.
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12 Jun 2005, 07:35 (Ref:1326111)
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Please give Radisich equal team mate, or someone half decent , Radisich will and can win Bathurst
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You could always get Mark Porter back.....
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